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Southwind
01-11-2008, 07:24 PM
Moggy and Rhealeady have mentioned both, with one suggestion that we google for info. I was hoping to get both to give a little input here-even if it is only some links...a good discussion wouldn't hurt.

momof23goats
01-11-2008, 07:34 PM
I am going t opost how t ocan butter, in the kitchen, also , keep your wheat berries, in a glass jar, and have the lid on tight.

Miles
01-11-2008, 08:36 PM
I have the information on canning butter here - http://www.endtimesreport.com/canning_butter.html

Whole grain storage is covered here - http://www.endtimesreport.com/bucketstorage.html

Miles

momof23goats
01-11-2008, 09:16 PM
I also posted it in the kitchen.
It is easy to can butter gals, and it keeps a long time. you can can cheese also.

Southwind
01-12-2008, 07:06 AM
I have previously canned butter, but it got thrown out (along with a lot of other stuff) when we moved.
Guess I need to start again..

About the wheat berries, I have a bucket of them, and did the freezing thing. However, they don't always sprout when I do the soak/rinse thing. And what is this about drinking the water you soak them in?

Also, there are either dead bugs that rise to the surface when I rinse them, or something even more gross.... so I would hesitate to drink that water.

Southwind
01-12-2008, 07:07 AM
I also posted it in the kitchen.
It is easy to can butter gals, and it keeps a long time. you can can cheese also.

How?? Inquiring minds, and all that. :lol:

Moggy
01-12-2008, 08:28 AM
About the wheat berries, I have a bucket of them, and did the freezing thing. However, they don't always sprout when I do the soak/rinse thing. And what is this about drinking the water you soak them in?

Also, there are either dead bugs that rise to the surface when I rinse them, or something even more gross.... so I would hesitate to drink that water.

Southwind, the only wheat berry liquid that I drink is after the berries have soaked in boiling water in a thermos overnight...it is a good idea to rinse the berries prior to cooking them in this manner.

Storing wheat berries for long-term use (around six years) is done with the help of food-grade buckets, mylar bags and oxygen absorbers.

Moggy

Lei
01-12-2008, 08:50 AM
Kitchen garbage bags are recommend ,at End Times, to store wheat
berries inside the buckets. Beware. Many kitchen garbage bags are treated with insecticides.

Southwind
01-12-2008, 11:58 AM
About the wheat berries, I have a bucket of them, and did the freezing thing. However, they don't always sprout when I do the soak/rinse thing. And what is this about drinking the water you soak them in?

Also, there are either dead bugs that rise to the surface when I rinse them, or something even more gross.... so I would hesitate to drink that water.

Southwind, the only wheat berry liquid that I drink is after the berries have soaked in boiling water in a thermos overnight...it is a good idea to rinse the berries prior to cooking them in this manner.

Storing wheat berries for long-term use (around six years) is done with the help of food-grade buckets, mylar bags and oxygen absorbers.

Moggy


Moggy, I am eating them on a regular basis, so this is not long term storage. I was sprouting them cause I am switching to a raw diet. I didn't know you were cooking them. BTW, they taste pretty darn good sprouted and raw. Very sweet.

money matters
01-12-2008, 02:01 PM
We have stored Organic HRW wheat, short-grain Brown rice and many varieties of beans, oats, & corn in newly purchased paint buckets without mylar bags or oxygen absorbers. There is one grade bucket that is not endorsed for food storage. (#2 I think.)

I wiped the buckets with vinegar. They were bought new at Sherwin Wms or similar dealer w/new lids. Poured 25 or 50lb sacks of grain, filling the bucket about halfway. We use CO2 chips to preserve or kill any bug eggs that might have been present. Buy a 5lb block of dry ice, break it up with a hammer after you wrap it in a towel or similar. Put chips in bucket in 2-3 layers starting when bucket is about half full. Fill close to top. Leave lid on loose. In about 30-45 minutes the CO2 chips will have gassed-out, so you can seal the bucket with a hammer. Don't forget to label and date as to contents before you seal bucket.

People say Brown Rice goes rancid. Not for us it hasn't. I had one bucket that was very tight and no matter how I shook it, no noise. I figured it was rancid. It was put up in 1995 and I opened it this Summer. The Rice was PERFECT!

We use 1 gal clear plastic jars to keep bulk stuff in our pantry, and grind flour with an electric mill that adapts to our buckets. Just plug in, keep the hopper full until you've done about 25lbs of grain.

You might find organic grains at your local Farmer's Coop or Feed Store, certainly at your healthfood store or grocer's section. Just be sure if going to the feed store or coop that you don't buy treated seed stock.

Make a big deal out of special buckets, mylar bags & 02 absorbers if you want, but we haven't found it necessary. We eat and rotate our food storage, fwiw.

Moggy
01-12-2008, 03:22 PM
Southwind...sprouting the wheat berries is a fine idea, are you using the red or white?

money matters...I wasn't making a big deal out of the manner in which I store wheat, merely stating my preference...no need to get your knickers in a knot. Some of us don't want chemicals leaching into our wheat.

By the way, #2 on the bottom of buckets means food grade, as do the letters HDPE.

Moggy

momof23goats
01-12-2008, 03:58 PM
think it is what works for you. I have always used glass to store rice or flour in. and beans and sugar. but only after they have been in the freezer for a while. now the wheat berries, i put in gallon jugs, and put a very tight lid on.
the thing is, you can put 50 women in a room, and get 50 different answers, and all of them work, for each gal. see what I mean.
So do what yo u know will work for your self, tried and true is the best way of knowing.

Southwind
01-13-2008, 02:57 PM
Southwind...sprouting the wheat berries is a fine idea, are you using the red or white?

money matters...I wasn't making a big deal out of the manner in which I store wheat, merely stating my preference...no need to get your knickers in a knot. Some of us don't want chemicals leaching into our wheat.

By the way, #2 on the bottom of buckets means food grade, as do the letters HDPE.

Moggy

I hoestly don't know if red or white. I bought from a health food store last summer, froze for 2 weeks and stored them in a 5-gal bucket. I started using them a month ago. I just skim the dead bugs after I soak them, and then rinse twice daily to sprout. I mix them with yoghurt for breakfast.

kelee877
01-13-2008, 04:29 PM
think it is what works for you. I have always used glass to store rice or flour in. and beans and sugar. but only after they have been in the freezer for a while. now the wheat berries, i put in gallon jugs, and put a very tight lid on.
the thing is, you can put 50 women in a room, and get 50 different answers, and all of them work, for each gal. see what I mean.
So do what yo u know will work for your self, tried and true is the best way of knowing.


and add to that, that the 50 women could be from different parts of the world, which means different climates and of course different storing procedures...

I live in the far north of Ontario, we get no humidty and can store lots without much of a fuss, we will have instant freezers in the winter time...and cool lakes to put things in too...get into warmer weather and others have to do things differently... :D

prayers for storing for what anyones needs and needs to keep safe...

BeWell
01-14-2008, 12:24 AM
Southwind - I'm not sure if bugs do this to wheat berries, but they sure do it to brown rice. I had buggy brown rice for my cats (I make my own catfood), and I would wash it well (not that THEY'D mind!) and I noticed some of the grains were drilled out and had a larva inside.

You might want to check very, very carefully. Of course, if any wheat berries have a larva inside, those ones won't sprout, so that would be a good way to find them.

I have a lot of wheat berries stored right now, in various containers, added bay leaves. I do have diatomaceous earth and maybe should think of re-packing them with it mixed in.

Bugs = MAJOR ICK!!! I'm too squeamish to use grains with bugs...

Southwind
01-14-2008, 10:22 AM
Southwind - I'm not sure if bugs do this to wheat berries, but they sure do it to brown rice. I had buggy brown rice for my cats (I make my own catfood), and I would wash it well (not that THEY'D mind!) and I noticed some of the grains were drilled out and had a larva inside.

You might want to check very, very carefully. Of course, if any wheat berries have a larva inside, those ones won't sprout, so that would be a good way to find them.

I have a lot of wheat berries stored right now, in various containers, added bay leaves. I do have diatomaceous earth and maybe should think of re-packing them with it mixed in.

Bugs = MAJOR ICK!!! I'm too squeamish to use grains with bugs...

That sounds exactly like what I have. Like I said, when I soak, the larvae float to the surface and I can skim it out. Plus I froze it all for two weeks initially, so I am certain whatever it is , is dead.

BeWell
01-15-2008, 12:00 AM
I successfully canned 4 pounds of butter tonight, didn't shake it quite enough and heated the butter too long (doing other things at the same time) but it sealed nicely and looks like butter.

I'm gonna get me some more and can it up!

Thanks, momof23goats!

(I posted your directions for canning butter and cheese with a tip'o'the hat to you, on the PFI flu forum:
https://www.singtomeohmuse.com/viewtopic.php?t=2115

(A thread about dehydrated food and other prep topics)

momof23goats
01-15-2008, 12:19 AM
GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep canning!!!!!!!!!!
I am not aware of that sight that i know of, but might be interesting for sure. pm me, about it, so I can have a look see.