went to the store today, big mistake

[momof23goats]

It is a local spartan store. at the back of the store, they had a bind, in it were some canned veggies, normal sized cans, they were beets, green beans ,and some boxes of those dried scalloped potatoes.
the sign read 2 for 5 dollars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AS I walked through the store ,I could not believe the prices, I called dh on the phone, and was reading the prices to him on the phone.
Oranges were a buck a piece!!!!!!!!!
It was so depressing. I got a thing of gaviscon, for heat burn, some yogurt, one pound container, and a small cottege cheese, [for the new chicks] came to 30$ even. talk about high, I almost fell over.

[curlysue]

It is a local spartan store. at the back of the store, they had a bind, in it were some canned veggies, normal sized cans, they were beets, green beans ,and some boxes of those dried scalloped potatoes.
the sign read 2 for 5 dollars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AS I walked through the store ,I could not believe the prices, I called dh on the phone, and was reading the prices to him on the phone.
Oranges were a buck a piece!!!!!!!!!
It was so depressing. I got a thing of gaviscon, for heat burn, some yogurt, one pound container, and a small cottege cheese, [for the new chicks] came to 30$ even. talk about high, I almost fell over.



WOW, FOR CANNED VEGGIES:shock:

[mzkitty]

OMG, you can't be serious!!!

[cracker]

Dear Citizen,

We have recently read on an internet message board where you posted that prices were rising. You are hereby directed to delete said post on said message board because the government's official position is that inflation is in control and steady.

Please refrain from posting such in the future, as it will result in a visit from our "field personnel" to your home, possibly late at night with their "officer safety dogs" and "officer safety flash bang grenades". Rest assured they will have a search warrant, but they cannot show it to you or your attorney because to do so would compromise state secrets and possibly cause us to lose the war on terror.

Remember, if we all come together, there is nothing we cannot ignore.

Thank you for understanding in this matter, kind citizen.

Sincerely,

Hanz "big brother" Grobensnutchel

Deptuy Undersecretary of Homeland Security
Inflation/statistics information division
internet detection section


P.S. Since you seem to be a "black helicopter conspiracy nut" you are also advised that the credit crunch/housing market issue is officially "contained".

[ChemicalGal]

It was so depressing. I got a thing of gaviscon, for heat burn, some yogurt, one pound container, and a small cottege cheese, [for the new chicks] came to 30$ even. talk about high, I almost fell over.
Mom....Off Topic....why do you give new chicks cottage cheese? just curious
CG

[momof23goats]

I mix a little small curd cottage in my chick starter, for extra protein, I do the same with turkeys, and you will never loose a one this way.
Those prices were out of sight, Now I went into a small town in south central michigan, I live below Lansing on the map,I drove into this small town to the store. i about flipped. I heard a lot of groaning in the store. as people were trying to figure out how to get meat and such. I was so smug, with my freezers full. of meat, but I usually make my cheese, but I am feeding all my milk right now to the babies, so had to go buy some.
my electric bill for this month was 475, so was my son's, and his gas heating bill was 400. My mom's was 475 for her gas bill, and lights were 170. now how you going to pay for all of these bills?
I told my kids we might have to live all in the same house.

[BigFootsCousin]

It is a local spartan store. at the back of the store, they had a bind, in it were some canned veggies, normal sized cans, they were beets, green beans ,and some boxes of those dried scalloped potatoes.
the sign read 2 for 5 dollars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AS I walked through the store ,I could not believe the prices, I called dh on the phone, and was reading the prices to him on the phone.
Oranges were a buck a piece!!!!!!!!!
It was so depressing. I got a thing of gaviscon, for heat burn, some yogurt, one pound container, and a small cottege cheese, [for the new chicks] came to 30$ even. talk about high, I almost fell over.

I bet if that town was 'Jericho', having that food at that price would have been a G-dsend....

(just thinking out loud...)

BFC

[littleoleme]

Went to Aldis Fri and got just a few things. Didn't hang around cuz didn 't need much, but
i noticed that the boxes of Ramon noodles which 2 wks ago were $1.39 were now $1.69!!
At that price i won't even buy them anymore!! I've been eyeing their price for the last few
months figuring they'd go up and they did, but at a 30 cent jump all at once?!! The box of
fresh mushrooms are still $1.49. They were .99 a few months ago. I love mushrooms, but
will never buy them at that price. I bet they throw a lot of spoiled food away cuz i don't
think people will buy them at that price. Once in a great while they will go down to .99.
That happened awhile back. I got two. Should have gotton 6! Now they are too high priced
to bother with. I think one good reason to "stock up" now is cuz food will be way too
expensive to afford to buy in the near future!

[momof23goats]

well everything is high here, I am stocked up to the max, and got a huge garden, and am nursing my grapes, and berry patches for all they are worth.
I really feel for the people that don't have the sense or rather didn't have the sense to stock up. I would hate to have to buy groceries, and pay bills too. I just have an electric bill for now, but not for to much longer, going to try to get off the grid. I really feel for the older people that can't do gardens any more .i have noticed, a lot of them are shopping in the dollar stores.

[Sadie]

I needed to get hamburger buns yesterday for a baby shower. The store brand went from .89 the last time I bought them, to $1.50 "on sale"!!! I just about fell over!!!

[momof23goats]

I needed to get hamburger buns yesterday for a baby shower. The store brand went from .89 the last time I bought them, to $1.50 "on sale"!!! I just about fell over!!!

those on sale prices will get ya for sure. at least here the do. almost doubled in price. soem things here have tripled in price.
like who ever heard of paying a dollar for an orange?crazy prices.

[just me]

So far prices are holding here except on meat and rice. I was checking prices for the weekly pricing thread and rice jumped 35% in one week ! ! I am afraid that is what will happen to everything here. Right now Wallyworld is new and in it's predatory pricing stage and I think that is helping keep prices down, but you know that just can't last.

[teadrinker]

Went to Aldi's yesterday to pick up a few things...here are the prices for some of the things I got.

Bananas: .44 lb
White Bread: .69
Strawberries: 1.29 a box
5 lb. Chicken leg quarters: 3.49 (.69 a lb)
Rice cereal: 1.39 a box
Carrots: .99 (2 lb. bag)
Shredded Cheddar Cheese: 3.49 (1 lb.)
2 lb. box of Spaghetti: 1.59
Canned mushrooms: .49
5 lb. Box of Dry Milk: 12.99 (makes 5 gallons)
American cheese slices: 1.89
Choc. chips: .99 a bag
Brown sugar: .99 a bag
Veg. Oil: 2.29 a bottle
Canned Frosting: .99 a can
3 lb. bag of apples: 1.79
5 lb. sugar: 1.79
5 lb. bag flour: 1.56
Canned vegs.: between .39 and .45 a can
No bags of rice available..just more expensive bag of Basmatti rice etc. 1.89 for 2 lbs.

teadrinker

[cecilia]

I hear you on getting off the grid. This has become a huge priority for me. I believe in the next couple of years power will be available but very expensive.

[Shooting Star]

Mom, those prices are terrible - I managed to get some canned beans today 2/$1.00 - I bought several cans.........

[Milk-maid]

I mix a little small curd cottage in my chick starter, for extra protein, I do the same with turkeys, and you will never loose a one this way.
Those prices were out of sight, Now I went into a small town in south central michigan, I live below Lansing on the map,I drove into this small town to the store. i about flipped. I heard a lot of groaning in the store. as people were trying to figure out how to get meat and such. I was so smug, with my freezers full. of meat, but I usually make my cheese, but I am feeding all my milk right now to the babies, so had to go buy some.
my electric bill for this month was 475, so was my son's, and his gas heating bill was 400. My mom's was 475 for her gas bill, and lights were 170. now how you going to pay for all of these bills?
I told my kids we might have to live all in the same house.

Mom, my brother lived in northern Minnesota several years back, and the prices back then were horrible. I remember him telling me that a gallon of milk was about $4. His tiny little abspestos shack of a house cost him $250,000 and that was before the housing boom. He was a doctor and just couldn't afford to live there anymore and pay off med school loans. He moved down south about 5 years ago. I can only imagine what the cost of living is up there now. Sounds like you would be neck and neck with them. I saw how you were blasted about your electric bill on another thread and those are people who just DGI. Different areas of the country have different costs.

Do your kids live near you now?

MM

[Easyrider]

Chicken is about to become the next Filet Mignon, at least in price. Boneless skinless breasts were 4.69 yesterday. I passed, because that is 3 dollars more per pound than I paid just a week ago.

[kelee877]

Went to Aldi's yesterday to pick up a few things...here are the prices for some of the things I got.

Bananas: .44 lb
White Bread: .69
Strawberries: 1.29 a box
5 lb. Chicken leg quarters: 3.49 (.69 a lb)
Rice cereal: 1.39 a box
Carrots: .99 (2 lb. bag)
Shredded Cheddar Cheese: 3.49 (1 lb.)
2 lb. box of Spaghetti: 1.59
Canned mushrooms: .49
5 lb. Box of Dry Milk: 12.99 (makes 5 gallons)
American cheese slices: 1.89
Choc. chips: .99 a bag
Brown sugar: .99 a bag
Veg. Oil: 2.29 a bottle
Canned Frosting: .99 a can
3 lb. bag of apples: 1.79
5 lb. sugar: 1.79
5 lb. bag flour: 1.56
Canned vegs.: between .39 and .45 a can
No bags of rice available..just more expensive bag of Basmatti rice etc. 1.89 for 2 lbs.

teadrinker


wow you are lucky here is a Canadian list for some of those things;

Banana,s .59 lb
White bread 1.99
Strawberries 2.99 box and its small
Chicken backs legs attached 1.39 lb
carrots 2lb bag 1.89
chesse bars 540 grams 7.99
spagetti 900 gram bags 2.19
chesse slices 24 thin slices 3.99
5lb bags of flour 4.99


That some of them to compare too....

[momof23goats]

well electric has gone so high. it is really bad, so we are going to try and get off, as soon as we can. Listen, if people think this can't happen, then think again. this prices are going to spread all across The country. trust me. just slower in some areas but It will happen in your area.

[kytom]

[QUOTE=littleoleme;131274]Went to Aldis Fri and got just a few things. I bet they throw a lot of spoiled food away cuz i don't
think people will buy them at that price. QUOTE]
i went to the local salvage store yesterday. they had about 30 half gallons of organic milk. it was to expire on the 19th of may. it was 2 for a dollar. youre right people are not buying the high priced stuff. its all spoiling.

[Irene texas]

Mom with a bunch of goats. Hi good friend. I like your idea of the cottage cheese for chick's, I wonder if plain yogurt would work also. I have a bunch of eggs in the incubator and will hatch soon. Thanks for the tip. And when you can't get chicken scratch, buy bird seed folks the chickens love it.
Banana's are 79 a pound here, and my hubby likes one a day. Oh boy what are we going to do. At least I can grow oranges down here on the Gulf, At a dollar a orange I don't think I would be eating to many of them.
I think you folks up north should can all the fruit you can, as I read somewhere that transportation this coming winter will not work very good from the south to North delivery. If at all. With the diesel and truck drivers parking trucks. Down here truck drivers will not go north unless they have a load to bring back. Driving a truck empty kills what little profit they have now. Food for thought folks
Irene

[Anne In TN]

Went to Aldi's yesterday to pick up a few things...here are the prices for some of the things I got.

Bananas: .44 lb
White Bread: .69
Strawberries: 1.29 a box
5 lb. Chicken leg quarters: 3.49 (.69 a lb)
Rice cereal: 1.39 a box
Carrots: .99 (2 lb. bag)
Shredded Cheddar Cheese: 3.49 (1 lb.)
2 lb. box of Spaghetti: 1.59
Canned mushrooms: .49
5 lb. Box of Dry Milk: 12.99 (makes 5 gallons)
American cheese slices: 1.89
Choc. chips: .99 a bag
Brown sugar: .99 a bag
Veg. Oil: 2.29 a bottle
Canned Frosting: .99 a can
3 lb. bag of apples: 1.79
5 lb. sugar: 1.79
5 lb. bag flour: 1.56
Canned vegs.: between .39 and .45 a can
No bags of rice available..just more expensive bag of Basmatti rice etc. 1.89 for 2 lbs.

teadrinker

Those are good prices! We don't have an Aldi's or a Sams club here but we do have a Save-a-Lot store. We bought $300 worth of groceries there but I am guessing we paid about 40% less than in the other main chain stores. The prices that I did notice that had gone up was Minute rice box from $2.00 to $2.50 and 18 eggs were $2.00. Our sugar there is $1.99 per 5 lb bag. A loaf of bread was $2.49 but it is not the cheapest there. It is called "Colonial" "King Thin".

This was not an ordinary trip to the store. We had been living off our preps for 2 months so we were replacing a lot. We also have been stocking up on gasoline. Cars all full and 20 cans full of 5 gallons each. The gas was $3.67

[The Constitutionalist]

Man, where do you guys live. C'mon down to TN. Here things except for gas are still not too bad.

[Milk-maid]

This was not an ordinary trip to the store. We had been living off our preps for 2 months so we were replacing a lot.

Anne do you mind if I ask, why were you living off your preps? Did something happen to your job? Did you find a new job?

I really try and stay away from our freeze dried long-term food and never touch that, but would if it was a matter of starving. There is other food that I would rotate through first just because it would be a matter of getting stale or going bad to keep it too long.

MM

[anncats]

well electric has gone so high. it is really bad, so we are going to try and get off, as soon as we can. Listen, if people think this can't happen, then think again. this prices are going to spread all across The country. trust me. just slower in some areas but It will happen in your area.

Can I please make a couple of suggestions here? First, get yourself a couple of aladdin lamps - used, new, whatever you could possibly afford. Get kerosene. ir heartily recommend Lehman's aladdin lamp oil, it doesn't have a smell and it burns quite brightly. yes, it's expensive, but it actually is worth it. They are really bright and useful and even give off a lot of warmth in the winter, which is great. I know Cory talked about lining the work space with reflective foil or mirrors - with an alladin, it will be so bright you'll wonder how you ever did without it.

Also invest in a couple of regular kerosene lamps or even propane lamps like the Coleman ones. Some good LED flashlights won't hurt,

If you can, get some cheap solar lights like you'd put outside to light your walkway. You can charge them during the day, bring them inside, and they give a mild kind of light that will keep you from tripping and falling down the stairs. It's not enough to read by, but it does work for just lighting.

If you use electric water heating, Sportsmans warehouse, I think it is, has a five gallon black outdoor shower for about $15, I think, that you can hang in the tree and get warm and then bathe for free. It's not elegant, but there's enough water to get you clean. It won't work during the winter, of course, but it makes good sense in the summer months. Whatever you are able ot save during the summer can be put to the winter bill.

Whatever you have that is causing an electric load, see if you can either turn it off or find a substitute. Refrigerator? I have a small refrigerator and a stand alone chest freezere that work off my solar batteries. If they were running on the regular power, they'd only take a couple of cents of power a day because they are super efificient. i even saw plans th6 eother day for making a super freezer for a couple of dollars - I'll see if I can come up with the site. PM me so I can send you the info, unless others are interested.

Cooking with electric? How about a solar cooker see the one at:
Trish Marut" <info@solarsizzler.com

Or get yourself a couple of cheap pressure cookers and have a meal done literally in minutes.

I guess the point is that I really really feel for you, because there is no way in God's green earth that i could cope with an almost $500 bill for electric for whatever reason. But there are ways around it - some may take time, some an investment in money, some may even take an attitude adjustment, but it's worth it in the end.

Good luck!

[RiJoRi]

BTW, Mom...,
The high store prices may partially reflect (PNI*) the high price of electricity in your area.

--Rich
*Pun Not Intended

[momof23goats]

Can I please make a couple of suggestions here? First, get yourself a couple of aladdin lamps - used, new, whatever you could possibly afford. Get kerosene. ir heartily recommend Lehman's aladdin lamp oil, it doesn't have a smell and it burns quite brightly. yes, it's expensive, but it actually is worth it. They are really bright and useful and even give off a lot of warmth in the winter, which is great. I know Cory talked about lining the work space with reflective foil or mirrors - with an alladin, it will be so bright you'll wonder how you ever did without it.

Also invest in a couple of regular kerosene lamps or even propane lamps like the Coleman ones. Some good LED flashlights won't hurt,

If you can, get some cheap solar lights like you'd put outside to light your walkway. You can charge them during the day, bring them inside, and they give a mild kind of light that will keep you from tripping and falling down the stairs. It's not enough to read by, but it does work for just lighting.

If you use electric water heating, Sportsmans warehouse, I think it is, has a five gallon black outdoor shower for about $15, I think, that you can hang in the tree and get warm and then bathe for free. It's not elegant, but there's enough water to get you clean. It won't work during the winter, of course, but it makes good sense in the summer months. Whatever you are able ot save during the summer can be put to the winter bill.

Whatever you have that is causing an electric load, see if you can either turn it off or find a substitute. Refrigerator? I have a small refrigerator and a stand alone chest freezere that work off my solar batteries. If they were running on the regular power, they'd only take a couple of cents of power a day because they are super efificient. i even saw plans th6 eother day for making a super freezer for a couple of dollars - I'll see if I can come up with the site. PM me so I can send you the info, unless others are interested.

Cooking with electric? How about a solar cooker see the one at:
Trish Marut" <info@solarsizzler.com

Or get yourself a couple of cheap pressure cookers and have a meal done literally in minutes.

I guess the point is that I really really feel for you, because there is no way in God's green earth that i could cope with an almost $500 bill for electric for whatever reason. But there are ways around it - some may take time, some an investment in money, some may even take an attitude adjustment, but it's worth it in the end.

Good luck!

I heat with wood,
I cook on a wood cook stove in winter, propane in summer.
wood furnace heats the hot water in winter.
in summer, I heat it on the stove,
I have many small pressure cookers, as well, as pressure canners.
I do not cook with electric. I use electric for lights, fridge, computer,
freezer. that is it.
so what kind of attitude adjustment, would you say I need?
I stated, my son's, bill was the same as mine, and my mothers almost the same.
what part of , electric is going sky high here, don't you get?????????????????
you will when it comes to a town near you.

[anncats]

Oh my dear, no I do not think you need an attitude adjustment - I was simply hoping that some of the things we do here to cut down on every higher prices for food and energy might help you. I'm sorry if you saw this as some kind of attack, it isn't.

Sometimes just hearing from other folks lights a spark that helps save some money and makes life easier. I am constantly looking for other ways to keep the family going without having to spend more money, If you are already doing these things and your bill is STILl that high, then I don't know what else could be done.

Another thing - what really worries me and I don't see what to do about it is the people like you and I who heat with wood and don't use much electricity and have all the ways to keep costs down like pressure cookers and canning equipment and all of that investment - we're still fighting a losing battle! What is going to happen to the people who aren't trying to be as frugal as we are.

If WE are having trouble, what is going to happen to the ones who haven't learned to cut corners until they're almost round.

As for the prices coming here, it could be, but that's one of the reason I have solar and a wind turbine and wind pump for our water - if prices keep going up or if we lose the grid, I need to make sure we can survive. It won't be easy but we'll survive if we can.

[Vipper]

anncats wrote:

If WE are having trouble, what is going to happen to the ones who haven't learned to cut corners until they're almost round.



I think you comments on ways to cut back may not help momof23goats, but are going to help someone who may not have thought of them before or are just now starting to try to cut costs.

This one line I quoted though is what has me so worried also, if they have no experience in cutting corner's or living in a frugal manner, who's gonna teach them? Before they can be taught anything they have to be open to it... People are getting defense at any and all comments lately I've noticed. Around here on job site's people are snipping at other's for no real reason other than to rant, rage at something minor, etc. It's getting really hard to know when to share or say something to people from what I am experiencing in both real life and Internet life...

I hope after the initial defensive manner ends they will be more open to learning new ways, but it's gonna be a rough ride I think before we get to that point... JMHO of course...

Kath

[ColdWater]

I mix a little small curd cottage in my chick starter, for extra protein, I do the same with turkeys, and you will never loose a one this way.
Those prices were out of sight, Now I went into a small town in south central michigan, I live below Lansing on the map,I drove into this small town to the store. i about flipped. I heard a lot of groaning in the store. as people were trying to figure out how to get meat and such. I was so smug, with my freezers full. of meat, but I usually make my cheese, but I am feeding all my milk right now to the babies, so had to go buy some.
my electric bill for this month was 475, so was my son's, and his gas heating bill was 400. My mom's was 475 for her gas bill, and lights were 170. now how you going to pay for all of these bills?
I told my kids we might have to live all in the same house.

You are talking $$$dollars next to these numbers? Is this somewhat normal for electric billing for you. Think a wood heater and oil lamps. Or move to Florida. My electric run $75 a month for 3 freezers and refer, well pump and lights. Don't need A/C quite yet. Coming soon.

[ColdWater]

I
This one line I quoted though is what has me so worried also, if they have no experience in cutting corner's or living in a frugal manner, who's gonna teach them? Before they can be taught anything they have to be open to it... People are getting defense at any and all comments lately I've noticed. Around here on job site's people are snipping at other's for no real reason other than to rant, rage at something minor, etc. It's getting really hard to know when to share or say something to people from what I am experiencing in both real life and Internet life...

I hope after the initial defensive manner ends they will be more open to learning new ways, but it's gonna be a rough ride I think before we get to that point... JMHO of course...

Kath

Kath, Mathew 24 explains why people are becoming short tempered. A lot to do with the fear of cost running into the 2 and maybe 3 digits inflation. :shock:

Couple that with the war(s) in Iraq, + Iran maybe and all ][ell can/may break lose soon.

[momof23goats]

yeah probably will. for sure.

[Milk-maid]

Mom, I was wondering if water shortages have hit there because I think that is going to be a cause for Hydro-electric power shortages as a result. Many people rely on water power for electric power. Without it, I fear brown-outs an black-outs this summer. Food for thought.

I would love to have solar power and get off the grid, but I fear it is going to be too expensive to install. Anyone know of any on-line companies they are dealing with for good ideas?

MM

[momof23goats]

well, I am looking also,no I live in michigan, no water shortage here for sure. Sam's club has some beginner kits, you can add to , for solar and wind, the price beats most. so that might be where I start. not sure.
I am also wondering about those roaming brown outs, I heard about. not good for sure.

[Milk-maid]

I have a Sam's Club near me and will check there for sure. Thanks for the info.

MM

[momof23goats]

Oh my dear, no I do not think you need an attitude adjustment - I was simply hoping that some of the things we do here to cut down on every higher prices for food and energy might help you. I'm sorry if you saw this as some kind of attack, it isn't.

Sometimes just hearing from other folks lights a spark that helps save some money and makes life easier. I am constantly looking for other ways to keep the family going without having to spend more money, If you are already doing these things and your bill is STILl that high, then I don't know what else could be done.

Another thing - what really worries me and I don't see what to do about it is the people like you and I who heat with wood and don't use much electricity and have all the ways to keep costs down like pressure cookers and canning equipment and all of that investment - we're still fighting a losing battle! What is going to happen to the people who aren't trying to be as frugal as we are.

If WE are having trouble, what is going to happen to the ones who haven't learned to cut corners until they're almost round.

As for the prices coming here, it could be, but that's one of the reason I have solar and a wind turbine and wind pump for our water - if prices keep going up or if we lose the grid, I need to make sure we can survive. It won't be easy but we'll survive if we can.
that would be my next move, say how does that pump work? I have livestock, and was wondering how good it works, also living in the north as I do, was wondering how it would hold up in the winter months. I have a gennie, but we both realize that is short term. got to get what you have, but the winters here can be really bad, and also high winds coming off the lake, at times.

[anncats]

We are using a deep water wind pump./ It uses a heavy white plastic line put down into my regular irrigation well to bring water up from almost 150 feet deep. If there is a good steady wind it brings up 4 to 5 gallons a minute. That doesn't sound like much, but it keeps the sheep, the chickens, the house, and the barn supplied. At times the water isn't pumped because the usual winds die down until late afternoon. We have a couple of really really large plastic water containers buried half way in the ground to hold enough to keep us through at least several weeks. They are partially buried to keep the water from freezing in the winter and having the plastic degrade in the sunshine. There is a pump attached to the line to the house to keep pressure up for the washing machine. The pump can run on solar power, but it would only work for two to three hours at a time from the battery power that we have.

I'd tell you the name of the pump, but the company is out of business now and I can't find a darned thing on the net for anyhone who bought them out. But what you're looking for will have to be suited to your water depth, wind speed, and how much you need during the day. Talk to the people at your local farm supply store, they might have ideas for what you need - a lot of people use the same type of pumps to circulate water during the winter in ponds to keep the oxygenation up and the fish safe.

Are you going to grow anything special for your goats this year or are they pastured without extra feed? I'm getting worried about our situation in Idaho, we haven't had enough water to make the normal pasture grow and the ground is so dry it's like 8 inches of dust. Yesterday we had a huge duststorm that could have been straight out of the 1930s as it came over from Ontario Oregon. My cousin is real nasty about the amount of dust in my house, but she lives in the city and doesn't understand.

[Loon]

Just wondering if that store is still selling veggies for two cans for $5. That was almost a year ago this was posted. I'm in Michigan as well and so far haven't seen that kind of pricing although everything has gone up for sure.

[Turnpike Jim]

Every so often, "Mom" will post about how high her gas and electric bills are. People will feel sorry for her and attempt to help. When asked for specifics, they are never forthcoming.

How bout it Mom? How about telling us how many Kwh you use and the cost per?

How about telling us how many Therms used per month, and the price per?

This info is easy to find on your bill.

I'll be waiting to help you crunch the numbers.

Jim

[LANCER]

Caught an interview from Davos Switzerland during the World Economic Forum early in 2009. The gentleman who was a 'suit', speaking on behalf of GE warned that even though the cost of electric power has been on the rise for a year (we were hit with a 5.9% [READ 6%] increase a few months ago), the general public should realize that the increases of up to an additional 15% will continue to accrue for at least another year or more before stabilizing.

After that, he said, everything should be sunshine, lollipops & rainbows since GE has developed the technology to help keep energy costs down by that time (no promise that the current and futures increase will recede before then). It's a simple modification to the outside meter on your house that will monitor your usage and actually 'kick in' and control your INSIDE thermostat when the power company receives (through the information sent by the chip in your meter) communication that your unit is using more energy than they deem to be economical or 'sustainable'.

How do you like them apples. Earlier this winter and within days of hearing this interview on CNBC financial network, I read an awful story in a local MI paper about a 94 y.o. WWII vet who was found in his own home and had frozen to death during a prolonged period of sub-zero weather in southeast MI. The power company had sent a warning to pay his bill but did not issue any warning before attaching a 'limiter' on the man's meter. Police found the man, who had no next of kin, frozen to death in the house where the temperature registered less than 50 degrees in a frame type, uninsulated wood house. He died within two days of the electric company's arbitrary action.

You'll be glad to know that Bay City Electric has agreed to notify residents when implementing the same procedure in the future. I'm betting that the 'limiter' may, in fact, be the helpful, cost saving device that the 'suit' from GE was referring to from the magnificent resort hotel where he spent the week @ Davos helping other millionaires & billionaires to create 'out of the box' solutions that will help the common man cope with enrgy costs (among other problems) in years to come.

[wschaub]

Caught an interview from Davos Switzerland during the World Economic Forum early in 2009. The gentleman who was a 'suit', speaking on behalf of GE warned that even though the cost of electric power has been on the rise for a year (we were hit with a 5.9% [READ 6%] increase a few months ago), the general public should realize that the increases of up to an additional 15% will continue to accrue for at least another year or more before stabilizing.

After that, he said, everything should be sunshine, lollipops & rainbows since GE has developed the technology to help keep energy costs down by that time (no promise that the current and futures increase will recede before then). It's a simple modification to the outside meter on your house that will monitor your usage and actually 'kick in' and control your INSIDE thermostat when the power company receives (through the information sent by the chip in your meter) communication that your unit is using more energy than they deem to be economical or 'sustainable'.

How do you like them apples. Earlier this winter and within days of hearing this interview on CNBC financial network, I read an awful story in a local MI paper about a 94 y.o. WWII vet who was found in his own home and had frozen to death during a prolonged period of sub-zero weather in southeast MI. The power company had sent a warning to pay his bill but did not issue any warning before attaching a 'limiter' on the man's meter. Police found the man, who had no next of kin, frozen to death in the house where the temperature registered less than 50 degrees in a frame type, uninsulated wood house. He died within two days of the electric company's arbitrary action.

You'll be glad to know that Bay City Electric has agreed to notify residents when implementing the same procedure in the future. I'm betting that the 'limiter' may, in fact, be the helpful, cost saving device that the 'suit' from GE was referring to from the magnificent resort hotel where he spent the week @ Davos helping other millionaires & billionaires to create 'out of the box' solutions that will help the common man cope with enrgy costs (among other problems) in years to come.

Oh yeah, they don't care if you freeze to death. if you do end up freezing then I guess its your fault for using up your carbon credits before winter came around.

That is exactly how it will be.

[TNHermit]

I go about once a month to replace used preps. I just figure about a hundred dollars for 3 or four bags. I go home and take some pepto and take a nap. Swear I will never go to town again.
I use to figure 40.00 and could tellyou within a couple dollars.

5.00 for mothballs
Chicken prices are obscene here.
Eggs and Milk have come down.
Beef is right up there with Wagyou
Lunch meat is obscene what you can find thats any good anymore
Cheese is in the 6.00 lb
Campbells vegtable soup is 1.50 -2.50 a can

[louise]

It's like that all over! I have pretty well what I need, but always buy the T.P. when it is on sale! I got 12 double rolls in a bag for $4.27 (limit 4) I got the box of four for $22, with tax. Went back a few hours later, as the sale was only for one day! Went back a total of four times! I got a good deal on that! Bought nothing else!

[Lbuck]

Went to our medium sized city last week, been shopping down there for 3 decades. Now you peel off hundred dollar bills, not tens. :shock:

Did find a brand new Goodwill the size of a small Wal-mart and made some bang up buys. Apple box's full of canning jars for $3.99. American made towels like new for .99-$1.99. Pillow cases, American made for .99. The neat thing is Tues. and Weds. they give a 15% discount for Military / vets / seniors.
Barter and used is the new economy. But we've always had that. Just wish we could grow more here.

[hisbluelady]

If you can, get some cheap solar lights like you'd put outside to light your walkway. You can charge them during the day, bring them inside, and they give a mild kind of light that will keep you from tripping and falling down the stairs. It's not enough to read by, but it does work for just lighting.



And, some of them have rechargeable AA's inside, so they double as battery chargers for other devices!

[mediatruth]

Dear Citizen,

We have recently read on an internet message board where you posted that prices were rising. You are hereby directed to delete said post on said message board because the government's official position is that inflation is in control and steady.

Please refrain from posting such in the future, as it will result in a visit from our "field personnel" to your home, possibly late at night with their "officer safety dogs" and "officer safety flash bang grenades". Rest assured they will have a search warrant, but they cannot show it to you or your attorney because to do so would compromise state secrets and possibly cause us to lose the war on terror.

Remember, if we all come together, there is nothing we cannot ignore.

Thank you for understanding in this matter, kind citizen.

Sincerely,

Hanz "big brother" Grobensnutchel

Deptuy Undersecretary of Homeland Security
Inflation/statistics information division
internet detection section


P.S. Since you seem to be a "black helicopter conspiracy nut" you are also advised that the credit crunch/housing market issue is officially "contained".

Agreed, I believe all posters on this thread should immediately report to the WH and discuss the "disturbing" messages you are sending :-D

[Bethshaya]

My electric was $427 this month. Usually it is about $150 - $280 depending on the season. We heat with electric simply because we have no other alternative in a condo.

It has been as high as $800 in the past, but we found a problem (the parking lot lights for the condo were attached to our meter when we moved in and had it fixed)

Groceries run me about $300 per trip, usually 2-3 trips a month. We're lucky enough to have a large dairy store (Stew Leonard's - the largest in the world). They sell everything from milk, eggs, cheese and veggies, to regular groceries. But their dairy products are cheap. About $1.99 for a gallon of milk whereas the regular stores are charging about $3.59 for a gallon. Other dairy is priced similar. I do as much shopping as I can there, and fill in other stores if they don't carry what I need (like cleaners or other items).

Lately, we've been doing without the brandname stuff and if I can cook it from scratch from what is at the Dairy, it doesn't get eaten.

[Frwyguy]

Red Delicious Apple. Last month 1.29 EACH. This Month 1.49 EACH.

By summers end, we should be really hungry! Stock up now!

Hollywood, Ca.

[mickyd]

It is a local spartan store. at the back of the store, they had a bind, in it were some canned veggies, normal sized cans, they were beets, green beans ,and some boxes of those dried scalloped potatoes.
the sign read 2 for 5 dollars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AS I walked through the store ,I could not believe the prices, I called dh on the phone, and was reading the prices to him on the phone.
Oranges were a buck a piece!!!!!!!!!
It was so depressing. I got a thing of gaviscon, for heat burn, some yogurt, one pound container, and a small cottege cheese, [for the new chicks] came to 30$ even. talk about high, I almost fell over.


The oranges is what kills me. Imagine that a buck a piece.

[Manuel O'Kelley]

I am really curious what some of you are paying for electric per Kwh?

We are using an absolutely ridiculous amount of electricity right now (in my opinion) due to current circumstances --heating a house we are living in that has no wood/coal heat, a LARGE house under construction and tools/equipment/heaters constantly running, and a huge 5th wheel trailer I am using for an office which is being heated entirely with electric heaters

We cook a lot, do a lot of laundry, leave windows open for fresh air if it's above 40 outside, and just had one of the coldest winters here in 30 years and my electric bill only went over 500$ once--

[dilligaf]

we pay $0.086 per KWH.

last month we used 672 KWH in a 31 day billing period. slightly above normal as we have been running lights starting seeds indoors.

[packyderms_wife]

Went to Aldis Fri and got just a few things. Didn't hang around cuz didn 't need much, but
i noticed that the boxes of Ramon noodles which 2 wks ago were $1.39 were now $1.69!!

At that price i won't even buy them anymore!! I've been eyeing their price for the last few months figuring they'd go up and they did, but at a 30 cent jump all at once?!! !




Ramen noodles have been $1.67 for a case for the better part of a year now.

[packyderms_wife]

Can we start a seperate thread for the electricity!!! It'll make finding it in the future much easier.

Kimberly

[packyderms_wife]

teadrinker your aldi prices are WAY better than ours enjoy it! TPTB here figured out all the upper middle class folks were starting to shop at Aldi and raised the prices!

Kimberly

[packyderms_wife]

Went to Aldi's yesterday to pick up a few things...here are the prices for some of the things I got.

Putting my Aldi prices in Red

Bananas: .44 lb (.45)
White Bread: .69 (.89)
Strawberries: 1.29 a box (1.99)
5 lb. Chicken leg quarters: 3.49 (.69 a lb) (3.99)
Rice cereal: 1.39 a box (1.89)
Carrots: .99 (2 lb. bag)
Shredded Cheddar Cheese: 3.49 (1 lb.) (3.89)
2 lb. box of Spaghetti: 1.59 (1.99)
Canned mushrooms: .49 (.59)
5 lb. Box of Dry Milk: 12.99 (makes 5 gallons) (17.99)
American cheese slices: 1.89 - don't know don't eat it
Choc. chips: .99 a bag (1.99)
Brown sugar: .99 a bag (1.69)
Veg. Oil: 2.29 a bottle (2.89)
Canned Frosting: .99 a can (1.19)
3 lb. bag of apples: 1.79 (1.99)
5 lb. sugar: 1.79 (2.62)
5 lb. bag flour: 1.56 (1.69)
Canned vegs.: between .39 and .45 a can (8 oz Tomato Sauce still .29 otherwise everything else is .45 -. 99 a can the bulk being .55 )
No bags of rice available..just more expensive bag of Basmatti rice etc. 1.89 for 2 lbs.

teadrinker


Sugar at my Aldi is $2.62 for a 5# bag - these were the prices at my local Aldi last weekend, they raise prices every weekend now!

K-

[Samurai Jane]

Seems like rural electric always costs more than electricity in town.

[Animal Lover]

Our food prices are quite a bit higher than yours seem to be Momo & Teadrinker. Every week prices take a whopping hike. We are retired and not physically well any longer or I would never have retired at all. (Heart finally said, oh no you don't). So, had to give it up. But the point is, two years ago, I wrote to all our children and told them what life was like after WWII. Families all lived together and food was rationed. I was just a toddler, but my Grammy & Grandpa took very good care of all of us. I think it was amazing as I look back on it. No one had cars on the road as they only had gasoline for emergencies. Buses picked everyone up, even as rural as we were, and people routinely worked 10 to 12 hours a day 6 days a week. My grandfather had an enormous garden all done by hand in those days and he shared all the veggies he grew after all our canning was completed each picking. He worked so hard as did my Grammies. He always said, you share what you don't need that the Lord has given to you. (That was all the religion he ever spoke, but he certainly lived a very, very strong Christian life). We are definitely going to see those days again. People cannot possibly keep up with these prices. I am so grateful that I learned how to cook everything (as my great-grandmother used to say, Cook with nearly nothing for ingredients and make it taste wonderful). She was an amazing cook. I would sneak her donut holes with cinnamon on them and she would pretend to chase me around the house with me laughing all the way. It was a very, very hard life, but it was filled with love and that is what we have to get back to. Neighbors taking care of neighbors. (That worries me as in 4 years here, our neighbors won't even wave when they go by). Me thinks that could change really fast when they run out of food. God bless you all and may HE help us get out of this mess we are in. AL

[Stanb999]

If your all worried about prices now. Just wait. It will get better.

Most of those "cheap" canned goods at aldi's are from china. The cost of this inflation is gonna get worse, much worse. Your prepping for this depression should have been done last spring. It's just too late in the event to try and start. The S has hit the fan. Get ready folks.

Don't worry about food prices for this summer... wait, next winter will be something to see.
Like I said last year at this time.... most of our country is currently happy about the summer coming. Just wait. When winter is on the way is when you can have real panic.


Looking forward to the return of the cold. It keeps out the riff raff. Edited to add we still have snow on the trees on this mountain top. :)

[argonath]

I go about once a month to replace used preps. I just figure about a hundred dollars for 3 or four bags. I go home and take some pepto and take a nap. Swear I will never go to town again.
I use to figure 40.00 and could tellyou within a couple dollars.

5.00 for mothballs
Chicken prices are obscene here.
Eggs and Milk have come down.
Beef is right up there with Wagyou
Lunch meat is obscene what you can find thats any good anymore
Cheese is in the 6.00 lb
Campbells vegtable soup is 1.50 -2.50 a can

There is a fresh and easy that I can find great deals.

Bananas this last weekend were .19 apiece. Whole chickens were between $3.00 - $4.00.

I was even getting boneless NY steaks for about $3.99 a pound.

Ive got most of my preps done and stored, and spend about $22.00 a week on groceries to keep me tidied up.

But even at those prices, I eat very well.

Today:

Early morning: My yogurt/soy milk shake with a whole banana, unsweetened chocolate and a little sugar.

Mid morning: Bowl of oatmeal

Early afternoon: 2 bacon wrapped chicken breasts with a four-cheese sauce

Dinner: NY steak and 2-egg cheese omellette

Many times, I will cook up those whole fryers and slice them into a fried rice dish I make. Those alone can be 4 meals.

The one thing I like about Fresh and Easy... nearly all their products are non-steroid, no artificial flavors/colors.

I feel bad for so many who are stuck buying food up north... those prices are atrocious for what you get.

[packyderms_wife]

If your all worried about prices now. Just wait. It will get better.

Most of those "cheap" canned goods at aldi's are from china. The cost of this inflation is gonna get worse, much worse. Your prepping for this depression should have been done last spring. It's just too late in the event to try and start. The S has hit the fan. Get ready folks.

Don't worry about food prices for this summer... wait, next winter will be something to see.
Like I said last year at this time.... most of our country is currently happy about the summer coming. Just wait. When winter is on the way is when you can have real panic.


Looking forward to the return of the cold. It keeps out the riff raff. Edited to add we still have snow on the trees on this mountain top. :)

Actually NO the canned goods are NOT from China MOST of them are packaged right here in Cedar Rapids, Iowa~! The rest come from a cannery in Minnesota.

Kimberly

[Limner]

well electric has gone so high. it is really bad, so we are going to try and get off, as soon as we can. Listen, if people think this can't happen, then think again. this prices are going to spread all across The country. trust me. just slower in some areas but It will happen in your area.

YUPPERS! I do so very much AGREE. It's heading our way. It's already at the point that I can't afford GOOD bread, I'm making ours. And we're prepping to get off the grid, too. I'm OVER it.

[IRo]

Chicken is about to become the next Filet Mignon, at least in price. Boneless skinless breasts were 4.69 yesterday. I passed, because that is 3 dollars more per pound than I paid just a week ago.

I lucked out this week as a nearby store (next town over) was having a sale on meats. Boneless breast $1.79, leg quarters .49/lb, beef shoulder(had to buy the whole thing) $1.99, eggs .97/doz, butter $1.88/lb, american cheese $9.95/5 lb. I spent my 2 week food budget of $150.00 on stocking up and we figure we now have enough meat to last the summer. (I have myself and 4 men in the house)

I listen to the others at work talk about their shopping habits and am just totally amazed at what they spend and what they spend it on.

[IRo]

Sugar at my Aldi is $2.62 for a 5# bag - these were the prices at my local Aldi last weekend, they raise prices every weekend now!

K-


The Aldi's prices are incredible! The nearest one to us is 45 miles away. Just not worth the trip.

[Turnpike Jim]

Anyone else notice that "Mom" hasn't come back to this thread?

Wonder why?

I know the OP was dated, but an update would be appreciated...

Jim

[Is45]

It is a local spartan store. at the back of the store, they had a bind, in it were some canned veggies, normal sized cans, they were beets, green beans ,and some boxes of those dried scalloped potatoes.
the sign read 2 for 5 dollars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AS I walked through the store ,I could not believe the prices, I called dh on the phone, and was reading the prices to him on the phone.
Oranges were a buck a piece!!!!!!!!!
It was so depressing. I got a thing of gaviscon, for heat burn, some yogurt, one pound container, and a small cottege cheese, [for the new chicks] came to 30$ even. talk about high, I almost fell over.




"spartan store"

What kind of store is this ?

They have the high prices of a convenience store.


~

[Belle]

"spartan store"

What kind of store is this ?

They have the high prices of a convenience store.


~
Spartan stores used to be one of the less expensive grocery stores in Mighigan. Apparently, that isn't the case anymore.

[SheWoff]

Anyone else notice that "Mom" hasn't come back to this thread?

Wonder why?

I know the OP was dated, but an update would be appreciated...

Jim

She answered this question already in this forum.

Wonder why? LOLOL... you're joking.

She

[momof23goats]

[quote=Turnpike Jim;502464]Every so often, "Mom" will post about how high her gas and electric bills are. People will feel sorry for her and attempt to help. When asked for specifics, they are never forthcoming.

How bout it Mom? How about telling us how many Kwh you use and the cost per?

How about telling us how many Therms used per month, and the price per?

This info is easy to find on your bill.

I'll be waiting to help you crunch the numbers.

Jim[/quote


How about telling us how many Therms used per month, and the price per?
I don't even know what this is. so stop being a smart a$$ to an older person.
I got to the jest of my bills, even though they said they were actual readings,
they were estimated, that is what a lawyer found out ,for us.
yes, I paid the bills, then got a lawyer, now I call in and read the numbers off the meter to the company. my bills have dropped to about 100 dollars a month.

We are supposed to get s refund from them , but that hasn't come and probably never will.
why did you drag up this old thread turn pike jim? not used to your name here,sure your not a troll?
look at the date when this was posted. like I said, I think you are just trying to stir the pot. but none to stir here sonny boy.
I don't need a numbers cruncher I needed a lawyer, got one. case closed, at least for now.

[momof23goats]

sparton stores, are like kroger stores, or piggly wiggly stores. they are a chain store. grocery store, they are in michigan, IL.Ohio, ind. and who knows where else. they say they are cheaper, but they aren't. even our meijers here is getting pretty high on their food.
so you got to aldis, ro save a lot.
I can and dry allot . but I do go to store .some times i just go to look around and see the prices of things. I check certain things, to see how much it has gone up, over the months.

[Stanb999]

The Aldi's prices are incredible! The nearest one to us is 45 miles away. Just not worth the trip.

If you get a trunk full of cans it's worth it. :-) This is what we do.

[Mstini]

It is a local spartan store. at the back of the store, they had a bind, in it were some canned veggies, normal sized cans, they were beets, green beans ,and some boxes of those dried scalloped potatoes.
the sign read 2 for 5 dollars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AS I walked through the store ,I could not believe the prices, I called dh on the phone, and was reading the prices to him on the phone.
Oranges were a buck a piece!!!!!!!!!
It was so depressing. I got a thing of gaviscon, for heat burn, some yogurt, one pound container, and a small cottege cheese, [for the new chicks] came to 30$ even. talk about high, I almost fell over.

Wow! Can I ever identify with your experience, Mom. I, too, went to the grocery store this evening--Smith's, which is part of the Kroeger, etc. chain.

Tillamook sliced cheese was $4.99 a pkg. A little carton of grape tomatoes was $2.99; a little "glass" of cheese spread was $3.49. One small can of Campbell's cream of celery soup was $1.69; and a very small, 2.62 lb., of rump roast was $11.76. I could go on, but I won't bore you with any more of the gory details. Anyhow, I didn't get home with much food for a total of $190.73.

We have a newish Super Wal-Mart, and I hate going there, but I will be doing all of my shopping there in the future as I believe that it really is somewhat less expensive. I have already quit the danged Safeway with their ridiculous high prices. We had an Albertson's that the Super W-M put of out business entirely when it came to town a couple of years ago.

I don't know what people are going to do. So many are losing jobs, taxes are being raised right and left, and on and on. Sheesh.

I must report, however, there were no noticeable shortages whatsoever. I was there very late at night and could barely get up and down the aisles they had so much stuff piled there to be put on the shelves.

[Stanb999]

I must report, however, there were no noticeable shortages whatsoever. I was there very late at night and could barely get up and down the aisles they had so much stuff piled there to be put on the shelves.


Don't expect shortages of goods at the stores. There is and will be plenty.

Expect the shortages on the dinner tables of America. During the last depression the stores were still full of goods. Just no cash to buy them.

[Mstini]

Don't expect shortages of goods at the stores. There is and will be plenty.

Expect the shortages on the dinner tables of America. During the last depression the stores were still full of goods. Just no cash to buy them.

You are correct, Stanb. I agree. I saw another thread here talking about shortages on grocery store shelves. I just wanted to relate my experience here in Arizona. Of course, it goes without saying, no money, no food--unless you've learned well from your friends at TOL.

[TNHermit]

I don't think there will be shortages but I have noticed that things I like that weren't big sellers are coming up missing. So while there may not be shortages there is definitely going to be a limited selection .

Fortunately I like SPAM so that won't be in short supply :mrgreen:

[Mstini]

I don't think there will be shortages but I have noticed that things I like that weren't big sellers are coming up missing. So while there may not be shortages there is definitely going to be a limited selection .

Fortunately I like SPAM so that won't be in short supply :mrgreen:

I don't have especially finicky or hifalutin' tastes, fortunately for me. I imagine imported "fancy" stuff might get mighty scarce, but no one who did a little planning will starve! Is not our current president into "protectionism"?

Spam lite is good. Slice it up, brown it in a skillet, dump on a can of baked beans, fix some coleslaw, and make some cornbread. Killer munchies! (Not for do-it-from-scratch purists, but is a real tasty meal!)

[Saminmo@hotmail.com]

This time of year I am going to the groery 2 or 3 times a month because If I buy my canning supplies all at once together it gives me a panic attack. It is hard to remember that bill is for a whole years worth of canned goods when you are paying well over 300.00 juts for canning stuff. I admit I splurge and buy the wags spice envelope for my ketchup. I wonder how many jars I actually can every year. This year with a new canning kitchen I might be able to keep track.

[Turnpike Jim]

[quote=Turnpike Jim;502464]Every so often, "Mom" will post about how high her gas and electric bills are. People will feel sorry for her and attempt to help. When asked for specifics, they are never forthcoming.

How bout it Mom? How about telling us how many Kwh you use and the cost per?

How about telling us how many Therms used per month, and the price per?

This info is easy to find on your bill.

I'll be waiting to help you crunch the numbers.

Jim[/quote


How about telling us how many Therms used per month, and the price per?
I don't even know what this is. so stop being a smart a$$ to an older person.
I got to the jest of my bills, even though they said they were actual readings,
they were estimated, that is what a lawyer found out ,for us.
yes, I paid the bills, then got a lawyer, now I call in and read the numbers off the meter to the company. my bills have dropped to about 100 dollars a month.

We are supposed to get s refund from them , but that hasn't come and probably never will.
why did you drag up this old thread turn pike jim? not used to your name here,sure your not a troll?
look at the date when this was posted. like I said, I think you are just trying to stir the pot. but none to stir here sonny boy.
I don't need a numbers cruncher I needed a lawyer, got one. case closed, at least for now.

I was not the one who revived this thread.

What I have a problem with is people who toss out outrages claims about what they are paying without providing any corroborating evidence. You have done this on numerous occasions. I don't recall you ever posting that your bills have been corrected. Maybe I missed it.

And if you are in fact old, it matters not a whit. Especially after numerous people have offered to help resolve your billing problems. Being old is no excuse. And I do wonder about your actual situation.

Jim

[momof23goats]

[quote=momof23goats;503693]

I was not the one who revived this thread.

What I have a problem with is people who toss out outrages claims about what they are paying without providing any corroborating evidence. You have done this on numerous occasions. I don't recall you ever posting that your bills have been corrected. Maybe I missed it.

And if you are in fact old, it matters not a whit. Especially after numerous people have offered to help resolve your billing problems. Being old is no excuse. And I do wonder about your actual situation.

Jim
my actual situation is this, I live on a homestead. I heat and cook with wood during the winter months.
I was getting huge bills. for electric. but we have since got it resolved.
I was not the only person in this area, that were getting huge bills.
I did get it resolved, and that is all there is to it. I think if you read back through you will find I did get it resolved. but not with out having to pay them first.
How ever this was last year, and this past winter was much better.
I did take advice of some of the people on here.
I am wondering you interest in all of this,or why you are singling me out.
and I do think this is the only time I posted high bills, so what do you mean about my posting fro mtime to time, I guess you wanted an update.
I don't just put it all out there you know.
I just think your being rude, and nosy since this post was over a year old.
I think my actual situation is none of your concern. nuff said. I think your trolling.

[Hungarian]

I think the highest electric bill I have seen is 129.00 for one month and that is running the central air unit 24/7 during the summer.

[Summerthyme]

Momof23goats... Jim wasn't the only one who missed any "updates" you gave.

Several of us did try to get answers for you, because it was CLEARLY obvious you were getting screwed somewhere along the line. We were asking about things like "how many KwH are they billing you for" and "what is your rate per KwH" because it seemed clear that you had either a dangerous situation (with a huge "leak" of power someplace) or you were getting screwed.

IOW.. we were trying to HELP.

And this is the first time I've seen an explanation, too... and I actually went back a few times to threads you'd mentioned it on because I was curious- and concerned.

As I said in those threads, your bills were running higher by quite a bit than ours- and we run a farm with a ton of large motors, etc.

I'm glad to hear you got it resolved. Times are tough enough without getting ripped off by mega corps who couldn't care less whether or not you're surviving.

Summerthyme

[momof23goats]

summerthyme, what they were doing was estamating our bills, and marking them as they read them. so now I at least got mine taken care of. now I have been telling my neighbors, to do the same thing I did, to get their bills straightened out also. most have. They were getting absolutely crazy. NOw the gas bills are getting high. but I don't have natural gas, SO i am good to go on that. but my mothers bill is getting way to high, on her gas, so trying to help her with that now.

[Turnpike Jim]

Mom of the Goats,

Your story has a lot of holes in it. Why in the world would you get a lawyer involved. A meter is an easy thing to read. The reading in and of itself would prove your case, and generate a refund or credit.

Have you ever actually seen one of your bill's? Or is maybe a family member (son) taking care of these things for you? I hope you are not being taken advantage of. It maybe time for you to get an advocate to look out for you and your mothers interests.

Something is definitly not right.

And I am not a Troll, as my history will show.

Jim

[ElGato]

I luvs me some Aldi's. Don't buy the shredded cheese. The block is much cheaper and I grate it myself. I love their choice of different cheeses. I never met a cheese I didn't like :mrgreen:. Lucky me, yesterday they had avacados for 89 cents a piece. They were out of feta cheese though. :cry:

Had to stop at kroger for feta and they had 1/2 gallon milk 4 for 5$. YAY!!!

[hunybee]

i wish i had an aldi's by me. they sound awesome

[Limner]

Aldai's is awesome, Hunny. It's like anywhere else, tho', you have to watch what you put in the cart. But you can get some nice stock up deals.

We're going to the optometrist tomorrow, and run errands, including some groceries. I'll let you know what I find out about this neck of the woods!

[curlysue]

Mom of the Goats,

Your story has a lot of holes in it. Why in the world would you get a lawyer involved. A meter is an easy thing to read. The reading in and of itself would prove your case, and generate a refund or credit.

Have you ever actually seen one of your bill's? Or is maybe a family member (son) taking care of these things for you? I hope you are not being taken advantage of. It maybe time for you to get an advocate to look out for you and your mothers interests.

Something is definitly not right.

And I am not a Troll, as my history will show.

Jim

Actually, we have had a couple of neighbors who have had to go the route of hiring legal counsel because of the meter reading issue. The electric co swore up and down their meters were correct and therefore the billing was correct. After several calls to resolve the situation and a couple more outrageous bills, they had their attorney get involved.

Of course, the electric company with the none faulty readers demanded they pay the bills in full or have their electric turned of and reported to the collection agency. They went the route of hiring an electricion to check for drains on the power supply and such. The electicion then contacted the electric company, who then sent out someone to "test" the meter. According the electric company, their meter was fine. The hired electricion is the one who advised them to hire an attorney to get it cleared up.

Long story made shorter. According to the electric co., It was not the meter, it was the computer generated reading from the office that needed "calibrating" for customers on one road. Whatever that means. I still do not understand if this was the "true issue" how it only effected one road, when everybody else was fine. End of story, bills were adjusted, electric company paid for the hired electricion and attorney. Case closed after three months of head aches for these people.

[packyderms_wife]

The Aldi's prices are incredible! The nearest one to us is 45 miles away. Just not worth the trip.


For the most part their prices beat everyone elses hands down, the sugar has gone up recently which I was disappointed to see.

Kimberly

[packyderms_wife]

You are correct, Stanb. I agree. I saw another thread here talking about shortages on grocery store shelves. I just wanted to relate my experience here in Arizona. Of course, it goes without saying, no money, no food--unless you've learned well from your friends at TOL.

Mstini this is because a lot of stores are reliant upon credit to get their stock into the store. Even in dry goods retail, which is where I sold, this was SOP. Very often I had the cash to pay upfront but the deal was always credit delivery and then they gave or sent you an invoice. So for the stores having physical shortages, mostly small mom and pop operations, it's because there's a credit crunch on right now.

And yes during GD1 ythere were plenty of goods to be had just no funds to get said goods.

Kimberly

[cyberiot]

We have a newish Super Wal-Mart, and I hate going there, but I will be doing all of my shopping there in the future as I believe that it really is somewhat less expensive.

I would caution you to put on your discernment hat when shopping at Wal-Mart. Yes, you can get low prices on national brands of packaged and manufactured goods. And yes, you can decline to purchase the CCC (Cheap Chinese Crap) that often pervades its shelves if you are so inclined.

BUT: When you get to the meat department, keep your eyes wide open. Cheap prices don't always equate with good value. A lot of Wal-Mart's chicken, pork and beef is "pumped"--shot full of salt water and phosphates to increase the weight without adding anything of nutritional value. In addition to being a ripoff, pumped meat doesn't taste nearly as good as its unfooled-around-with counterpart. Further, the chemicals aren't all that great for you.

As always, caveat emptor.

[momof23goats]

Mom of the Goats,

Your story has a lot of holes in it. Why in the world would you get a lawyer involved. A meter is an easy thing to read. The reading in and of itself would prove your case, and generate a refund or credit.

Have you ever actually seen one of your bill's? Or is maybe a family member (son) taking care of these things for you? I hope you are not being taken advantage of. It maybe time for you to get an advocate to look out for you and your mothers interests.

Something is definitly not right.

And I am not a Troll, as my history will show.

could have fooled me .
I got a lawyer involved because I wanted to. i do not owe you an explanation for any of my actions. if i wanted to hire a lawyer, I would and did.
do i see my bills? I am not feeble by any means, are you nuts? and why do I have to tell you everything? you pay my bills? IS your name on my deed? no, I gave you all I intend to say. LOOK like I said the matter was taken care of. your nosy and rude, and saying or implying I am either not truthful or to old to handle my bills, there for someone else is, son, I am not that old. just read down you will see this does happen. NOW nuff said about a year old thread. got it!!!!!!!!!!
An advocate? O am not grandma moses. I am not that old. your a pi$$en in the wind. how dare you?

[quote=curlysue;504930]Actually, we have had a couple of neighbors who have had to go the route of hiring legal counsel because of the meter reading issue. The electric co swore up and down their meters were correct and therefore the billing was correct. After several calls to resolve the situation and a couple more outrageous bills, they had their attorney get involved.

Of course, the electric company with the none faulty readers demanded they pay the bills in full or have their electric turned of and reported to the collection agency. They went the route of hiring an electricion to check for drains on the power supply and such. The electicion then contacted the electric company, who then sent out someone to "test" the meter. According the electric company, their meter was fine. The hired electricion is the one who advised them to hire an attorney to get it cleared up.

Long story made shorter. According to the electric co., It was not the meter, it was the computer generated reading from the office that needed "calibrating" for customers on one road. Whatever that means. I still do not understand if this was the "true issue" how it only effected one road, when everybody else was fine. End of story, bills were adjusted, electric company paid for the hired electricion and attorney. Case closed after three months of head aches for these people.

exactly, several people here have hired lawyers to get to the bottom of their bills, I was just one of them. Happens more than you think. some times it is the right thing to do. oh and I can and do read my bills. pay them too.

[momof23goats]

Just wondering if that store is still selling veggies for two cans for $5. That was almost a year ago this was posted. I'm in Michigan as well and so far haven't seen that kind of pricing although everything has gone up for sure.
this was at family fare store. they took over felpausch, a sparton store, well they have several, a couple i think in grand rapids ,orup that way, one in hastings and in jackson, and around. but several of their stores have closed, now. I think the jackson store, and hastings store, don't know how many more have closed. these are sparton stores. for ya'll in the south, they are like a farm jack, or piggly wiggly.

[check]

Milk 2% = $2.20 a gallon
Butter - 1LB = $2.00
Turkey - whole = $1.04 LB
Cream cheese - .88 each
Chicken leg quarters - 10LB bag = $5.96
Bananas - .68 cents a pound
Yogurt-32 ounce container w/active cultures=$1.88


I buy in bulk, 50 pound bags of flour, sugar,
oatmeal, brown sugar also, lentils, barley and
pasta in 5 pound bulk. It's a great way to
stock up, though you have to divvy it up into
smaller packages ( large ziplock bags) and put
it in a big plastic tote bin with snap down lids it's
a great way to stock up and easy to maintain.

For those who don't have a big freezer try and
see if you can get one, save up for it, have a yard sale, sell anything you really don't need,
like or use and get the largest one your space
will allow. There's so many things that keep
well in a freezer, dry cereal, crackers, pretzels,
raisins, coconut in addition to the regular items
most people freeze, when you see things on sale,
buy a lot and bank it in your freezer , when I look in my 2 diff freezers there's so much variety it's amazing.

I was telling DH tonight, if everyone had a freezer they'd be eating a lot better for a lot less, my 2 freezers are self defrosting, large upright ones and 2-6 years old and I don't see a dime
increase on my electric bill and the newest one
cycles more. Having a freezer is great especially when meat is on sale. Even cheese
freezes just fine, same with butter.

[Turnpike Jim]

I think I made my point.

Some people like to post things for the shock or sympathy value. Then, when called on it, they act all innocent and victimized. Or claim that they are being picked on because they are an "older person". Or resort to calling others troll, when in fact it is their motivations which are in question.

Again, I think I made my point.

Hopefully others will refrain from that type of behavior. Especially when most here are willing to help those who do have a dilema.

Jim

[ColdWater]

It was so depressing. I got a thing of gaviscon, for heat burn, some yogurt, one pound container,


and a small cottege cheese, [for the new chicks] came to 30$ even.


whats with this for the chicks?

[Mark D]

Play nice folks. Your jobs are not to publicly police behavior you think is dramatic or trollish... Or, "to make a point".

If you think something is inappropriate, report the post or PM a moderator. Keep your discussions polite and civil and everyone will get along just fine.

[Mstini]

Mstini this is because a lot of stores are reliant upon credit to get their stock into the store. Even in dry goods retail, which is where I sold, this was SOP. Very often I had the cash to pay upfront but the deal was always credit delivery and then they gave or sent you an invoice. So for the stores having physical shortages, mostly small mom and pop operations, it's because there's a credit crunch on right now.

And yes during GD1 ythere were plenty of goods to be had just no funds to get said goods.

Kimberly

Helpful and wise comments as usual, Mrs. Packyderm. Appreciate your level head. Compared to all of the knowledgeable "grown-ups" around here, I'm still a toddler trying to learn life's ropes--altho' most would probably consider me to be long in years and long in the tooth!

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