I couldn't find Clyde This morning

[momof23goats]

Clyde is my male Nigerian dwarf goat. i hunted all over . He had once again got out of the buck pen. dang Clyde, all of the family, has chased clyde. so any way I began to search. I looked all through the barn. I could see he wasn't in with the big does.
then I started to call him, he answered .dang CLyde, he was in the mini doe barn. that rascal, He had turned the water bucket over, [it is a very large one], and used that to get out of jail, then went over by the gals, used the wheel barrow, to get to the gals, and over the fence he had gone. that Clyde is some thing else. And I wasn't going to breed, until late dec. or early jan.

[Emily]

Clyde is my male Nigerian dwarf goat. i hunted all over . He had once again got out of the buck pen. dang Clyde, all of the family, has chased clyde. so any way I began to search. I looked all through the barn. I could see he wasn't in with the big does.
then I started to call him, he answered .dang CLyde, he was in the mini doe barn. that rascal, He had turned the water bucket over, [it is a very large one], and used that to get out of jail, then went over by the gals, used the wheel barrow, to get to the gals, and over the fence he had gone. that Clyde is some thing else. And I wasn't going to breed, until late dec. or early jan.

Wow - sounds like you have one smart goat there. He should produce some smart offspring.

Thanks for sharing. What a cute story.

[babysteps]

Oh NO! What a stinker! I hope you were planning to use him on those does...

Let's see, five months forward is the end of March... guess you'd better be ready for babies then!

[Summerthyme]

LOL! Smart is NOT always the most desirable characteristic in livestock!

Mom- YOU weren't going to breed until January, huh? Did you discuss that with Clyde? Sounds like he has his own agenda... and dating calendar!

Reminds me of the time one of our VERY tall (and very valuable) registered Ayrshire cows produced a solid black bull (thank God, or I think hubby would have had a barbeque!) calf. Now, she'd been bred AI, and had trouble concieving. However, hubby had bred her for the fourth time, and she checked pregnant at 50 days. What we *didn't* realize at the time was that our Dexter yearling bull (this cow was 58" tall... the bull was 32" at the time!!!) had also managed to breed her. Guess who got her pregnant!?

When I got hubby calmed down, I pointed out that she may not have conceived at all if it hadn't been for the "helpful" bull. But we still would have liked to have seen how he accomplished "the act"... I looked, but didn't notice any springs on his hooves!

Better write the date on the calendar, Mom... you may be busy in about, what? Five months?

Summerthyme

[Salal Sue]

Sounds like Clyde had premeditated this arrangement! :)

We have Nigerians and are getting a few larger breed dairy goats.

Are the mini does you mention Nigerian or smaller? When breeding for minis is the buck used from the smaller of the pair?

Guess what I'm asking is, can you only breed a little buck to a larger doe so she doesn't get into difficulty in case she produces a large single kid....seems like it might make difficulties doing a larger breed buck with a mini doe.

[momof23goats]

MY mini's are mini nubians, and no, I wasn't going to breed them to Clyde!!!!! OH he makes wonderful babies, just wasn't going to use him. he is the darnest guy, I tell you.Well, only 2 are in heat, and clyde will be getting out of that pen probably tomorrow ,If hubby can swing by. early babies, dang. that goat is some thing .I tell you.
well, the rest of the gals, aren't getting until jan. some thing tells me, yeah right.
well have to set up a birthing pen, in the carriage house off the kitchen.
winter babies are no fun. well, they are , because they are so little, but work too.

[momof23goats]

well, I got CLyde put back yesterday. oh he wasn't happy one bit. my younger son's girl friend came out, and she helped me get him .but not before he head butted both of my knee caps. that rascal, and boy was he mad at me. I told him this,
Clyde, either I put you back into your own pen, or I get the gun, and you go to the butcher!!! he sneered his lips up, and then told me good. well, we got a rope on him and it was all over, we got him back, that stinker.

[Yooper]

Well, there must be something in the air. Does Clyde have Drake's email address? I went out yesterday morning to do the milking and there was Drake in with the adult does. All 22 of them. And wouldn't you know, four of them were flaggin' to beat the band. Of course, there stood Drake in the corner with a big grin on his face. Little fartblossom. One doe was to be "retired". The other three were not to be bred yet so we'd have milk through winter. Yes mom, now things are a bit different. Looks like some kids in the house mid-march! Sheesh.
Thanks for sharing! Gotta admire their persistance!

[Salal Sue]

:) I'm thinking hard here....have you EVER heard anyone say how glad they are to have a buck? Poor guys, they are usually pastured by themselves and have their lives so regulated by pedigree records. the weather, milking schedules, and who they get for girl friends. And the girls make such demands with their calling and wagging tails.

I had to approach our buck with raisins in one hand and the Fabreez spray bottle in the other. Happiness is being buckless! :) :)

Sounds like Clyde and Drake are above average in several ways!

[Limner]

We had this happen when a Nubian buck we were boarding got into a pen of registered Alpine does. YUP, he was grinning, too, when I found him. Had several babies with "airplane ears" that Spring......!

I always bred for March babies---it usually warmed up a tad, and the babies got a good start before the warm weather and worms and insects got to bothering them when grazing....

[Freeholder]

LOL! Your Clyde is a real escape artist, Mom! My buck just unties knots....

I don't like the bucky smell, but my buck is actually the most affectionate of all my goats (even when he's not in rut, LOL!). It's really too bad that they are such smelly fellows (and it's hard to wash that odor off, too).

I don't know when my does will kid next year because I've been leaving Vic in with them. He's happier if he's with the girls all the time, and it doesn't affect the milk quality at all. I just have to watch carefully for signs of imminent kidding, but with only a couple of does that's not too much trouble. We've had kids here in the middle of the winter, and I just kept them in the big dog crate in the house for a day or two (or a week if the weather was really bad). Once they are eating well and thoroughly dry, they go in the baby pen with a little hutch to sleep in, and they've all done just fine. Of course, it hasn't gotten any colder than five below since we've lived here (it can get quite a bit colder, just hasn't recently).

Kathleen

[Yooper]

Hey Kathleen, that's a great idea about the dog crate. Thanks! We use refrigerator boxes in the house with plastic under for the kids until they dry off and then they go outside. At least that's what happens in April/May. Now as to March? I think we'll have them in the house for a bit longer. The dog crate will keep the straw/hay inside better cuz it flies out of those big boxes. I HATE vacuuming up hay on carpet!!

Our boys get plenty of love, hugs, treats and attention the rest of the year. Just not during rut! But two of them are leaving for a new home and I fear for them. I know they are often forgotten, even by the best of breeders. Regular hoof trimming on them is so key. We've gotten a few back from leasing and they've had hoof rot. That is a real bugger to get under control.
Thanks for the crate tip!
Darlene

[momof23goats]

yooper ,that is why I don't lease any of mine out. we did get Clyde in, and he did give me a talk today! he is such a guy I tell you. and all my males are so sweet, when not in rut .they are so sweet. the march babies will be house babies for a while ,way to cold for them out side. just will be to cold.

[Animal Lover]

Oh, I'm still laughing. My hubby used to breed for March too, or try to. We had 110 sheep though not goats. Most had twins every year. They were all such pets. One was so smart though that nothing would keep her in where she didn't want to be. Dad would call them for dinner and she would bring them all in together. I raised three in the kitchen with newspapers from everyone in town for three months as the mother refused them. My hubby put up two 4x8 plywood panels around the wood stove. They grew up to be blue ribbon winners with my hubby showing them at the fair. After I raised all three of them to good, strong healthy little ones, the vet told me that none of them should have made it. Well, I was proud of myself for being such a good momma sheep. :-) What fun. AL

[momof23goats]

Oh, I'm still laughing. My hubby used to breed for March too, or try to. We had 110 sheep though not goats. Most had twins every year. They were all such pets. One was so smart though that nothing would keep her in where she didn't want to be. Dad would call them for dinner and she would bring them all in together. I raised three in the kitchen with newspapers from everyone in town for three months as the mother refused them. My hubby put up two 4x8 plywood panels around the wood stove. They grew up to be blue ribbon winners with my hubby showing them at the fair. After I raised all three of them to good, strong healthy little ones, the vet told me that none of them should have made it. Well, I was proud of myself for being such a good momma sheep. :-) What fun. AL
I have raised so many babies in my kitchen. every year it seems, we would get a fence baby, meaning the buck would get out, and breed through the fence.
well, didn't have any last year. this year, I will have a kitchen full come the end of march. i will have to dig out , the huge dog cages, and make a run for them. Oh they are so cute when they are first born, until they start jumping out of everything, and ending up on the top of the table. oh I have had about every thing happen, that could happen for sure.

[momof23goats]

Dang clyde, he jumped his 5 ft, fence again ,and is once again on the prowl, that stinker, and oh he does stink. Clyde is some thing else this year, even for Clyde, well, I am not going to catch him now in this weather .

[Navajo]

Put a collar and chain on him attached to a log. Then he has to drag it around. Not too long or he may hang inself when he jumps over and the log prevents his feet from hitting the ground on the other side.


Two to three feet at the most.

[Martinhouse]

I saw my little pygmy doe leap straight up in the air and clear a four-foot fence. And she is a tiny one!

Since then, we call her my little goatalope.

[Yooper]

A Goatalope? Cute! Now that would be some fancy genetic engineering!!

[momof23goats]

I saw my little pygmy doe leap straight up in the air and clear a four-foot fence. And she is a tiny one!

Since then, we call her my little goatalope.

These snall goats, can clear a fence in nothing flat, they are worse than the big goats. and clyde, well, he is a whole other story, He is back out again this morning . that rat. Now I cam getting ticked off. he is just some thing else.
I don't know about Clyde.

[Dianv]

These snall goats, can clear a fence in nothing flat, they are worse than the big goats. and clyde, well, he is a whole other story, He is back out again this morning . that rat. Now I cam getting ticked off. he is just some thing else.
I don't know about Clyde.

This is kind of silly, but.....

Mom23, maybe you and Yooper (and others) could get together and publish a book called "Goat Stories". I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed reading about Clyde and (can't remember Yooper's goat's name, but he's a kick too!).

In a way, reading this thread is a bit like finding a new, unpublished James Herriott!

I don't wish more angst (sp?) on you, but I find myself cheering for Clyde and saying "More about the goatalopes!" (I do love that word!!!)

[momof23goats]

This is kind of silly, but.....

Mom23, maybe you and Yooper (and others) could get together and publish a book called "Goat Stories". I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed reading about Clyde and (can't remember Yooper's goat's name, but he's a kick too!).

In a way, reading this thread is a bit like finding a new, unpublished James Herriott!

I don't wish more angst (sp?) on you, but I find myself cheering for Clyde and saying "More about the goatalopes!" (I do love that word!!!)

well, Clyde, is now back in with the does. guess he wanted to go back to them for a while, that stinker, and he wanted to get hay, and no mama, doesn't reward bad boys.:mrgreen: He is sweet, now all loving. and happy, until hubby gets home tomorrow, then he will go back to his home. but lets face it, he has had a grand week. with a different gal every day so to speak. well in Clydes case, a different one about every hour, so he is a happy camper.

[hunybee]

CLYDE!

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[momof23goats]

Well today, friday, when I left this morning, clyde was in the barn, when I came home, he was out in the front yard, eating maple leaves as they were falling, and he had 2 does out wit him. I got the does back in easily, but Clyde? well ,again I am a complete failure, and bone tired. When dh gets home tonight, he will get Clyde up once and for all. and none to soon, since he has bred everything on the homestead. I just shake my head, he is some thing else this year.
say if any of ya need a good tried and true buck, well, I sure have one. He is lovable too. I should stud him out. really. this guy could be making me money.

[GingerN]

LOL! Smart is NOT always the most desirable characteristic in livestock!

Mom- YOU weren't going to breed until January, huh? Did you discuss that with Clyde? Sounds like he has his own agenda... and dating calendar!

Reminds me of the time one of our VERY tall (and very valuable) registered Ayrshire cows produced a solid black bull (thank God, or I think hubby would have had a barbeque!) calf. Now, she'd been bred AI, and had trouble concieving. However, hubby had bred her for the fourth time, and she checked pregnant at 50 days. What we *didn't* realize at the time was that our Dexter yearling bull (this cow was 58" tall... the bull was 32" at the time!!!) had also managed to breed her. Guess who got her pregnant!?

When I got hubby calmed down, I pointed out that she may not have conceived at all if it hadn't been for the "helpful" bull. But we still would have liked to have seen how he accomplished "the act"... I looked, but didn't notice any springs on his hooves!

Better write the date on the calendar, Mom... you may be busy in about, what? Five months?

Summerthyme


You would be amazed. The neighbors Chihuahua tried to get to my Basset hound and couldn't get there. The danged Bassett laid down flat stretched out as low as she could for him! We happened to see this and ran the bratty dog off and locked up Lady, who was decidedly not ladylike.....


We had a neighbors Santa Gertrudis bull get in with Daddy's registered Polled Hereford heifers and the one Jersey we had. He got 3 of them. Daddy was not a happy camper about any but the Jersey's calf-prettiest heifer you ever saw.

[momof23goats]

I will be soooooooooo busy, I am taking names for all those that would like to come help. lol
clyde, was limping this week, but today, the rascal is fine. He is out of the doe pen, and in with the 1 and 2 year old does. I can't keep track of him. he has burrs, all ln his hair, he is a smelly mess, and happy as can be. He is a mess, for sure. but he is smiling and talking his line allot.

[momof23goats]

well, lover boy clyde ,was at it again today. that goat i tell ya, if he wasn't so small and cute, I would have seriously thought of culling him. HE got stuck in the fence to day, I thought, well, i went out to see, He was just half in and half out of the doe pen. well just as I was about to grab his butt, he made off, and went to the small girls pen and got in. what a rat. then when I began feeding hay, he was with me in the barn ,so I though good, i will get him wrong. gone again. well, Cyde will be in this week end ,do or die, [me not clyde, well, more like dh]. any way, I thought well, I will go check for eggs, I have a few hens out, so I went to check, and to put my hand in the barrel, YIKES!!!!!!!! a possium. dang, wondered where the eggs were, this same one got me the other night on the deck, and he plays dead every single time .tomorrow, i am taking the gun, he will be dead, the rat!!!!!Well, this week end is butchering some hens, and a couple of turkeys. so it is going to get busy. and heres hoping clyde won't be a pain. fat chance of that probably. HE is always a pain. but then again he is Clyde.

[hunybee]

sooooooo....

any signs to tell of yet as to impending arrivals?

[cjoi]

This is kind of silly, but.....

Mom23, maybe you and Yooper (and others) could get together and publish a book called "Goat Stories". I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed reading about Clyde and (can't remember Yooper's goat's name, but he's a kick too!).

In a way, reading this thread is a bit like finding a new, unpublished James Herriott!

I don't wish more angst (sp?) on you, but I find myself cheering for Clyde and saying "More about the goatalopes!" (I do love that word!!!)

So agree with you, Dianv! Reminded me of Herriott, too.

[babysteps]

sooooooo....

any signs to tell of yet as to impending arrivals?

I think there's a few months yet...

[hunybee]

not for the signs of it:mrgreen:

[babysteps]

LOL. :lol:

Actually, if I remember right, goats are one of the hardest animals to tell for sure that they're preggers... till they drop a couple of kids on your porch. :lol: Momof23goats would certainly know better than me, though!!!

[momof23goats]

i can tell if they are caught or not. lets just say,the last 2 weeks of march are going to be very busy around here.

[hunybee]

heh heh heh heh heh......

[momof23goats]

More like I will be dog tired, and going crazy for sure.

[LMonty]

well a bottle of lutylase would solve your pygmy dad problem- they ought to recycle in a month or two and then you could rebreed most in January for May or June babies- man, thats late! Thought I was holding off late here with breeding last month...not sure they are all caught, but since Ive got another buck coming in in a few weeks for a visit, I'll do cleanup with him and hope for the best. I dont care if they are late with a Kastedemur daddy :)