NAIS Public Disclosure Doc: NAIS Targets Religious 'Groups'

[Bamidbar]

Posted in January 11th, 2009
(http://www.nonaiswa.org/?cat=15)
For those of you who walk the path of faith and religion, the NAIS is targeting you for their NAIS program. You are, more than likely, one of those self-sufficient (anti-boot licking) individuals that probably (GASP) “raises livestock”. Not raises animals for food! What are you thinking? Don’t you know that your food comes from Safeway and Taco Bell?



You might as well get your “bulls-eye tee shirt” because the global gov, Uncle USDA and Cousin State Ag, WANT you for the NAIS! Once they have you in their sights, watch out, the 'train has left the station' on that little mark that is referred to as the Mark of the Beast. Are the beasts going to be marked? Why yes! And through the implemented Terrestrial Animal Health Code, you are defined as a beast, dear reader. Check out your laws and regulations, you can’t buy or sell without it. We are just awaiting the kick-off event for activation and enforcement.


Actual Document at: http://www.nonaiswa.org/wordpress/wp-admin/post.php?action=edit&post=2204

[BoldBeliever]

The curse of God be upon them.

[travelingirl]

Clicked on the site and can't get in unless you have a login and password.:sad:

[Emily]

Do you have a hard news link for this? It looks like a blog of someone's write ups.

The title of your thread seems a little misleading. While a majority of homesteaders might be Christians doesn't mean that the NAIS objective is pointed at them.

We really have enough to be concerned about - do we really want to look for trouble that may not be there?

[dilligaf]

it wouldnt surprise me after seeing the news story on FEMA working with pastors in the event of civil unrest. using them to calm their flocks.
this would just be another way for the government to get the church goin folk to comply..

[Emily]

it wouldnt surprise me after seeing the news story on FEMA working with pastors in the event of civil unrest. using them to calm their flocks.
this would just be another way for the government to get the church goin folk to comply..

Well - all except the only way for us to maintain credibility with DGI's is to stick with the facts and not go searching for 'what ifs'

I believe we have plenty to be concerned about without going off script.

[Bamidbar]

The blog site is http://www.nonaiswa.org (http://www.nonaiswa.org/). I inserted a direct link to the article and the document so I am not sure why it does not show up.

This is a document (not an opinion) obtained under Freedom of Information Act or Public Disclosure Act. The document clearly says, in black and white that the NAIS will be targeting religious groups, specifically. This is a good reference if you are opposed to NAIS.

Christian, Jew, Muslim, whatever. For what its worth; if you are a person of faith and you have agreed to any part of the NAIS you are placing yourself in more danger than the average person.

[Bamidbar]

http://www.nonaiswa.org/?p=2204

Hope this works. I am swamped with getting 3000 new pages of information up so that folks going to the Legislative Session have access to it when they visit their Representative and Senators.

[FollowTruth]

The document the link goes to has the minutes of a meeting held in Wenatchee WA on September 29, 2006. Rather than reading mixed messages about what is in the document, below is a copy and paste of the beginning of the recorded minutes which includes the reference to 'religious groups'.

The acronym WSDA refers to Washington State Dept. of Agriculture.


Washington State Department of Agriculture
NAIS Cattle Advisory Group
September 29, 2006
10:00 am-5:00 pm

Wenatchee Federal Building

Members in Attendance: Leonard Eldridge, Ed Field, Jack Field, David Secrist
Roy Webster, Craig Vjeraska, Willard Wolf, Ted Wishon, and George DeRuyter,

1. Welcome and Announcements: The group discussed the premise
registration letter sent out by the WSDA to associations encouraging
them to have their members register premises, in return WSDA will
reimburse the associations $10 per registration.

• Some group members felt that there should be uniformity
throughout the states. Some states are reimbursing the individuals
that register their premises or are offering them free items. Other
states offer different amounts of reimbursement for different types
of premises registered.

• Some individuals would like to see the reimbursement go to the
individuals instead of the associations, but WSDA can not legally
reimburse individuals.

• WSDA could work with religious groups as well, because many
members of religious groups raise livestock.

• A few members felt that if the NAIS is as good as we claim to be,
that it should sell itself, and WSDA shouldn't have to sell the
program to the associations.

o For this program to be successful, WSDA has to have buyer
participation

[Emily]

Thank you FollowTruth - It appears that this is not targeting religious groups but simply suggesting that they be contacted for assistance with the program.

I think that tells us that the title in the OP is misleading.

Thank you - unless I am reading it wrong and if someone could please point that out.

[janetn]

This is aimed at the Amish. They have resisted NAIS. My Amish neighbors will NOT register either the farms they own or the livestock :-D God Bless them

[Bamidbar]

Here is a document purchased with blood, sweat, and tears literally...the TRUTH is in black and white, and you don't *see* it.

A simple "they may be contacted for assistance with the program"? Wait until you are un-voluntarily registered, electronically identified, and surveillanced 24/7.

There is an old addage Emily:

They came for the neighbor, and you did nothing,
They came for the next person, and you did nothing,
They came for the next person, and did you did nothing,
They came for YOU, and there was nobody left.

NAIS has happened due to some people's complaceny. Don't whine when you have no food when you had opportunity to assit and failed to do so.

[Emily]

Here is a document purchased with blood, sweat, and tears literally...the TRUTH is in black and white, and you don't *see* it.

A simple "they may be contacted for assistance with the program"? Wait until you are un-voluntarily registered, electronically identified, and surveillanced 24/7.

There is an old addage Emily:

They came for the neighbor, and you did nothing,
They came for the next person, and you did nothing,
They came for the next person, and did you did nothing,
They came for YOU, and there was nobody left.

NAIS has happened due to some people's complaceny. Don't whine when you have no food when you had opportunity to assit and failed to do so.

I am more than willing to shout out an alarm if there is one but I don't see it in this post.

The best way to destroy ALL of our testimony is to sound the alarm without valid evidence.

Show me the smoking gun and I will jump on the band wagon with you but I just don't see it and that does not make me a 'bad person' just one who doesn't run around crying wolf only to have our witness ignored when there IS strong evidence.

[Beaners]

This is aimed at the Amish. They have resisted NAIS. My Amish neighbors will NOT register either the farms they own or the livestock :-D God Bless them

Attacking the Amish seems like it would be a PR disaster in the making. I know they're doing it, I just can't figure out why. It would be much easier to make "homesteader" types the example in the public eye. How hard is it to convince the public that I am a danger because I have livestock and I store food in my house, so I must be a survivalist nut? It would be very easy to characterize the individual opponents as whack-jobs.

But most people know who the Amish are and respect them. They are also different than most people, but people have an idea of who they are and why they live the way they do. You aren't going to be able to paint them as a dangerous menace to the public.

Unfortunately I don't think the NAIS issue is ever going to truly die.

Kayleigh

[janetn]

The Amish have been on the radar for decades. When i was a kid they went after them because they had their own schools and only went to the 8th grade. In communities they live in its a love hate relationship. They have their problems. For instance around here they are in the soup because they dont have insurance yet when their is an accident with one of their buggies they have nothing worth going after. Also they got in the soup for not having lights on their buggies at night. It goes on and on......

So they do have a history of run ins with the authorities. This new NAIS thing is a big thing in the Amish community. They beleive its part of the mark of the beast. They will not comply, they will go to jail first and hope that they can at least get exempted from the law on religious grounds in court.

[251bravo]

Do you have a hard news link for this? It looks like a blog of someone's write ups.

The title of your thread seems a little misleading. While a majority of homesteaders might be Christians doesn't mean that the NAIS objective is pointed at them.

We really have enough to be concerned about - do we really want to look for trouble that may not be there?Good point Em.