Do Not Take The Shot!!!!!!!!

[Sleeping Cobra1]

With what is going on now, people are warning to not take any vaccine shots.

[Sleeping Cobra1]

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Please read other comments. People are waking up.

[Sarah]

I usually am one of the last ones to get the flu shot every year (primarily because I hate shots-I am a BIG chicken), so I guess if they're spreading killer vaccine hopefully I'd get a clue before I get mine. There's a big push for health care professionals to get our vaccines because of our exposure. I get mine for not just that reason but because I had the flu ONCE and did not like it one bit and I'd rather take my chance with the shot (hadn't got the flu since).My office has already put our order in for flu vaccine for next year (that's how early you have to order it), I sure hope they dont send out bad stuff. Like I mentioned earlier on another flu thread, I'm going to the health food store monday and stock up on elderberry.:shock:

[momof23goats]

I can'ttake them allergic. but dh took them for about 5 years, and everytime he got it, he ended up in the hospital. went straight to his lungs.
now for the last 3 years, no shot, he has had no flu.

[antiquate]

I don't recall the last time I had a flu shot. Dang...really trying to remember and either I'm getting old, or it's just been a long time.

Anyway, no problems without them.

[Lardel]

Never had a shot and Thanks be to God, never had the flu.

[bobfall]

There is not going to be a shot for this flu, for bit.
Likely months. Maybe, better part of a year.

That crap about Mexico giving out shots, is just that, crap.

UNless, someone knew about this and has been working on a shot for awhile.
Other than that, your getting water or some junk they had laying around the lab.

bob

[kelee877]

There is not going to be a shot for this flu, for bit.
Likely months. Maybe, better part of a year.

That crap about Mexico giving out shots, is just that, crap.

UNless, someone knew about this and has been working on a shot for awhile.
Other than that, your getting water or some junk they had laying around the lab.

bob

Mexico is giving out shots...they are giving them the regular flu shot....

I posted the artical in this thread post 385

http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=57964&page=39

Face masksThe fact most of the dead were aged between 25 and 45 was seen as a worrying sign linked to pandemics, as seasonal flu tends to be more deadly among the elderly and the very young.

Speaking on the evening television news, Health Minister Jose Angel Cordova encouraged people in Mexico to avoid crowds and wear face masks, noting there was no guarantee that going to get a flu vaccine would help against the new strain.

[doctor_fungcool]

riday, April 24, 2009
Mexican Swine Flu - An Advanced Biowar Event
Mexican Swine Flu
An Advanced Biowar Event


http://www.europebusines.blogspot.com/

(I don't know about this url, nor the author....I just thought I'd throw it out there....accept or reject....)



On 23 rd April 2009 the world began to become aware of a very strange new version of swine flu H1N1 in Mexico with limited cases in Texas and California. By the morning of the 24th of April, we began to hear that there were hundreds of sick and 20 or so dead. By late in the day, we have learned that over 1,000 are now reported ill and over 60 are reported dead. There are solid reasons to suspect that this new Mexican Swine Flu is NOT a naturally occurring event but instead is an Advanced Biological Warfare recombination DNA genetically engineered virus.

Here is what we know of the virus so far. This virus has already gone international having crossed the border from Mexico to America. All schools in Mexico City have been canceled, millions of students told to stay home due to Mexican Swine Flu. Sick victims of this strange new virus are currently reported in California and Texas. Over 60 deaths reported in Mexico (could be substantially higher considering the state of Mexican health care and reporting).

Young healthy adults seem to be the most at risk. This is similar to the deadest killer flu in history, Spanish Flu in 1918. Most if not all nations with advanced biological warfare programs have been interested in recreating the Spanish Flu DNA sequence and several are reported to have done so.

The new Mexican Swine Flu has elements of DNA from the following: avian flu, human flu Type A, human flu Type B, Asian swine flu, and European swine flu. A strange combination never seen before and having less than 1/10% chance of being a natural event. Human and animal viruses from four or more continents suddenly recombine in a new flu during a non-flu season that spreads from human-to-human with a 10% fatality rating.

Over 1,000 reported infected in Mexico; true rate may be much higher. Mexico City seems to be the epicenter of the new virus. Mexico City has 20 million citizens, most terribly poor. Mexico City is notorious for its poor sanitation and public health. "Don't drink the water" has been the byword in Mexico City for decades. It is the perfect breading ground for an explosive growth of this new killer virus. Mexico City has closed all schools, public gatherings, public buildings. People are wearing medical masks on the streets. The government has announced a massive new emergency swine flu vaccination program that will be, at best, either totally non-effective or of very limited effect, and could be, at worst, a deadly option for patients. It is thought that the authorities are trying to contain public panic by announcing the vaccination program.

Both the World Health Organization and the US CDC (Center for Disease Control) have announced, today/24th April, that they are 'very concerned' about a global pandemic developing out of this new disease. Based on advanced biowargaming projections, it is already too late to stop the global spread of this new killer disease. Based on the three waves of Spanish Flu, the latter ones being more lethal, fatality rates may range from approximately 10% to 40% or so in later waves. More people could die in America, Mexico, Canada, Europe, and globally from Mexican Swine Flu than died in World War II.

This new flu is a lab created advanced biological warfare DNA genetically engineered virus that either: (1) Escaped accidentally from a lab; or (2) was deliberately released by a nation or non-state organization or a well-trained individual.

If there is a positive side to this coming global disaster, it may force governments to quickly come to grips with containing advanced biowar attacks. This is of considerable short term importance as Israel is apt to attack Iran by no later than mid-July 2009. The Iranians, having hired a large number of key ex-Soviet advanced biowar scientists 18 years ago and having spent billions on their asymmetrical MAD (mutually assured destruction) counter-force, are expected to respond to any significant attack on Iran with a biowar attack on Israel, North America, and Europe using in-place agents and dozens of genetically engineered viruses, many with very high projected kill rates.

This event is an advanced biological warfare event. It is far more important than 9/11 and, by itself, could bring deaths in such magnitudes as to exceed the number of deaths from

[bobfall]

Those 'flu' shots are not going help.

They might as well put water in the shot.
In fact, some folks will be better off getting water shot into them.

A bad reaction to a shot + getting this flu = you are real trouble.

Mexico City is a mess.
Everyone is on the edge.

Shots make everyone feel better.
But, they would be better off singing songs.
And smoking pot.

bob

[bobfall]

A side note:

One of the folks (posting on different site) said a mexican co-worker told him the death toll was much higher.
In the hundreds. This was yesterday.

Take it for what it is worth.
If I where the Mexican .gov, I would keep the info loop closed.

We'll see.

bob

[Jewels]

Please relax people. Some people here are so much on edge, they're waiting for the shoe to drop and overreacting by offering so much wrong information. Top off your preps, wash your hands very often, and avoid mass numbers of people. Don't be a pariah about it and lock yourself in a cabin yet.

Current flu shots are ineffective. Don't waste your time. All you'll end up doing with them is reducing your immunity while your body fights it, thereby making yourself more susceptible to anything else around.

If you choose not to get a flu shot when the appropriate cultures are released in 3-6 months, that's your decision. It's a numbers game and out of each million there could be hundreds of people with side effects (autism, paralysis, etc). No use blaming the government, or accusing conspiracy with embedded chips or sabotage, or saying BO dropped something off while in Mexico last week. Vaccines are just a numbers game, always-is and always-was. Properly cultured vaccines eventually will work, the question is you feel luckier taking your chances with or without it. Flu viruses typically come in two waves, several months apart, so the decision to take a vaccine will likely be for later this fall after a first wave.

N95 masks are effective (in the broad sense of the word, despite what I've read from some people) in the sense that flu viruses attach themselves to water particles. Sure, I definitely wouldn't recommend someone sneezing on your mask directly, but anything that reduces the number of water-bourne droplets hitting your face will reduce the probability of exposure.

[bbwx]

Other than life saving medications due to trauma or a cardiac event there is no way in hell that I will take an injectable of any sort...especially a supposed anti viral or a flu shot. You have absolutely no idea what is in that vial and neither do the people who are injecting you. You are taking it at absolute faith that their is nothing harmful in the vial. I mean the drug companies and TPTB are to be absolutely trusted, right? It is possible for something to be a binary agent and you might just be introducing into your body the very thing that will trigger it.

[moestooge]

Why would you have mercury injected into your body via a flu shot?

[Sassafras]

My doctor talked me into taking a flu shot last fall. It was the first I've ever had one. What I really went for was the pneumonia shot. I know folks don't like the idea of these shots, but I had pneumonia along with whooping cough. It was not fun and I do not want to EVER experience that again. I may not take a flu shot again and the pneumonia shot is good for several years so I'm good. Now if I can just talk dh into that pneumonia shot.

[goatlady]

moestooge, there is no mercury in flu vaccine - it's an egg-based vaccine. The mercury is used as a stabilizer in bacterial vaccines, not viral.

[Flynn380]

Is there a way around getting the flu shot for those that are required to take said flu shot by their place of employment. That is, other than not working here.

[SouthernMagnolia]

Other than life saving medications due to trauma or a cardiac event there is no way in hell that I will take an injectable of any sort...especially a supposed anti viral or a flu shot. You have absolutely no idea what is in that vial and neither do the people who are injecting you. You are taking it at absolute faith that their is nothing harmful in the vial. I mean the drug companies and TPTB are to be absolutely trusted, right? It is possible for something to be a binary agent and you might just be introducing into your body the very thing that will trigger it.

My sentiments exactly...and I'm one of the gullible ones who took the flu shots for decades...but not in the last four years. I can only imagine the damage done to my system already.

Jan

[bobfall]

"Flynn380

Is there a way around getting the flu shot for those that are required to take said flu shot by their place of employment. That is, other than not working here. "

If you are sick, you are not suppose to get a flu shot.
The sicker you are, the more of a no-no it becomes.

bob

[obleo]

About two years ago, my family all went and got a pneumonia shot...not the flu shot at a clinic set up here in town. After much research, the flu shot was ineffective but found out that people were dying from the complications of the flu which was...ready?...pneumonia. They weren't dying from the flu itself.

Everytime DH got a flu shot, he got sicker than a dog...so no flu shot...no "flu". Same with other members of my family. So we all got the pneumonia shot and we've been fine ever since. Plus we're all pretty healthy to begin with and take precautions all the time.

[HeIsTruth]

From the CDC site.

http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/key_facts.htm

Is there a vaccine for swine flu?
Vaccines are available to be given to pigs to prevent swine influenza. There is no vaccine to protect humans from swine flu. The seasonal influenza vaccine will likely help provide partial protection against swine H3N2, but not swine H1N1 viruses.

[The Cub]

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DO NOT ACCEPT THE VACCINE !

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/era-of-peace/message/400

[wrs]

Those 'flu' shots are not going help.

They might as well put water in the shot.
In fact, some folks will be better off getting water shot into them.

A bad reaction to a shot + getting this flu = you are real trouble.

Mexico City is a mess.
Everyone is on the edge.

Shots make everyone feel better.
But, they would be better off singing songs.
And smoking pot.

bob


I vote this as your best post ever bob. I agree one hundred percent. I had that Asian Flu back in Feb 1969, that was a really bad one that got my whole family, my mom had a relapse of it. Mine lasted a week, I was 12 and I still remember how sick I was. The only other time I felt worse was when I had the 104.5 tumor fevers right after I was diagnosed with cancer.

I have never had a flu shot and never had the flu since 1969, it could be that one instance acted as some sort of immunization, who knows. All I know is I am not taking any flu shot and I always refuse them when offered.

[dogone13]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/22/missing.virus.sample/index.htmlArmy: 3 vials of virus samples missing from Maryland facility


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Missing vials of a potentially dangerous virus have prompted an Army investigation into the disappearance from a lab in Maryland.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/US/04/22/missing.virus.sample/art.fort.detrick.gi.jpgFort Detrick is the home of the Army's top biological research facility.


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The Army's Criminal Investigation Command agents have been visiting Fort Detrick in Frederick, Maryland, to investigate the disappearance of the vials. Christopher Grey, spokesman for the command, said this latest investigation has found "no evidence of criminal activity."
The vials contained samples of Venezuelan Equine Encephalitis, a virus that sickens horses and can be spread to humans by mosquitoes. In 97 percent of cases, humans with the virus suffer flu-like symptoms, but it can be deadly in about 1 out of 100 cases, according to Caree Vander Linden, a spokeswoman for the Army's Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases. There is an effective vaccine for the disease and there hasn't been an outbreak in the United States since 1971.
The vials had been at the research institute's facility at Fort Detrick, home of the Army's top biological research facility, for more than a decade. The three missing vials were among thousands of vials that were under the control of a senior scientist who retired in 2004. When another Fort Detrick scientist recently inventoried the retired scientist's biological samples, he discovered that the three vials of the virus were missing. The original scientist's records about his vials dated back to the days of paper-and-pen inventories.
During the investigation, the retired scientist and another former Fort Detrick researcher cooperated with investigating agents and, according to Vander Linden, they came back to the facility to help look for the vials.
Vander Linden said the investigators know that several years ago an entire freezer full of biological samples broke down and all the samples had to be safely destroyed. But a complete inventory of what was in the freezer was not done before the samples were destroyed. Vander Linden said there's a "strong possibility" the vials were in that freezer and destroyed, but that isn't known for sure.
This investigation comes two months after all research at the research institute facility at Fort Detrick was halted for a complete computer-based inventory of all disease samples at the fort. That inventory is expected to be complete before summer and may help solve the mystery of the three missing vials, officials said.
The Army investigation is in its final stages and is expected to be closed soon.

Might be it came from here.

Vinny 8)

[mediatruth]

moestooge, there is no mercury in flu vaccine - it's an egg-based vaccine. The mercury is used as a stabilizer in bacterial vaccines, not viral.

Just though I would help out here.



Does the influenza vaccine contain thimerosal?

Yes, the majority of influenza vaccines distributed in the United States currently contain thimerosal as a preservative. However, some contain only trace amounts of thimerosal and are considered by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to be preservative-free. Manufacturers of preservative-free flu vaccine use thimerosal early in the manufacturing process. The thimerosal gets diluted as the vaccine goes through the steps in processing. By the end of the manufacturing process there is not enough thimerosal left in the vaccine to act as a preservative and the vaccine is labeled "preservative-free".

How much thimerosal-free influenza vaccine is expected to be available for the 2008-09 season?

For the 2008-09 season, manufacturers project producing as many as 50 million doses of thimerosal-free or preservative-free (trace thimerosal) influenza vaccine. Of these 50 million doses, approximately 20 million doses represent flu vaccine products that are licensed for use in children over 3 years of age.


Source:
http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/ABOUT/QA/thimerosal.htm

[firebird]

I can'ttake them allergic. but dh took them for about 5 years, and everytime he got it, he ended up in the hospital. went straight to his lungs.
now for the last 3 years, no shot, he has had no flu.

I had a friend who took the shot every year also and ended up in the hospital every single year. I begged him not to do it anymore but he did. He died last year.

[wschaub]

I had a friend who took the shot every year also and ended up in the hospital every single year. I begged him not to do it anymore but he did. He died last year.

That really boggles the mind for me. you would think he could have put two and two together to make 4 but all to many people it comes out 5 or 6 instead and will they listen to you NOOOO! I really hate that.

Funny thing that flu season seems to start right at the time they give out shots
seems to me the shots are for introducing the flu into the population instead of protecting anyone from the flu.

[IdahoMom]

Is there a way around getting the flu shot for those that are required to take said flu shot by their place of employment. That is, other than not working here.


Flynn,

I believe if you are allergic to eggs you are not supposed to take the shot. Might be worth some research..

[TOTO]

Vaccines (http://revlu.com/vac.htm) may kill you faster than the disease.

I dont get shots. One exception - I let my own doc give me a shot when I had pneumonia a year ago.

Vaccines were safe many years ago.
Today ingredients I dont want in my body!

One ingredient in some is tissue from aborted babies.
Imagine the injection based on murder! Cannibalistic!

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[IdahoMom]

You should not get the flu vaccine if you have ever had a severe allergic reaction to eggs or to a previous flu shot or have a history of Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS).

http://www.vaccinetruth.org/new_page_5.htm

[IdahoMom]

Some people should not get inactivated influenza vaccine or should wait before getting it.

Tell your doctor if you have any severe (life-threatening) allergies. Allergic reactions to influenza vaccine are rare.
Influenza vaccine virus is grown in eggs. People with a severe egg allergy should not get the vaccine.
A severe allergy to any vaccine component is also a reason to not get the vaccine.
If you have had a severe reaction after a previous dose of influenza vaccine, tell your doctor.
Inactivated influenza vaccine is not approved in children younger than 6 months of age. NEW Nov 2008
Tell your doctor if you ever had Guillain-Barré Syndrome (a severe paralytic illness, also called G.B.S.). You may be able to get the vaccine, but your doctor should help you make the decision.
People who are moderately or severely ill should usually wait until they recover before getting flu vaccine. If you are ill, talk to your doctor or nurse about whether to reschedule the vaccination. People with a mild illness can usually get the vaccine.
This information was taken directly from the VIS

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/should-not-vacc.htm#flu

[firebird]

That really boggles the mind for me. you would think he could have put two and two together to make 4 but all to many people it comes out 5 or 6 instead and will they listen to you NOOOO! I really hate that.

Funny thing that flu season seems to start right at the time they give out shots
seems to me the shots are for introducing the flu into the population instead of protecting anyone from the flu.

Too many people still think their doctor is god and will do anything they say. He always did what the doctor ordered.