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Achilles
11-28-2007, 10:34 AM
'Just add water' instant shelters


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The shelter can withstand storms, extreme cold, and even bullets
An emergency shelter which can be set up in 40 minutes as a solid concrete structure will be made in south Wales after winning worldwide interest.
Its creators were on BBC TV's Dragon's Den, but they refused investment from the show's entrepreneurs because they wanted too much of their company.

Will Crawford and Peter Brewin's design will go into production at their new plant near Pontypridd next summer.

It is made by adding water, pumping it into shape and waiting for it to dry.

Their "concrete canvas" shelters have already drawn interest from aid agencies and the military.

"We originally came up with the idea when were entering loads of design competitions to fund our way through college," said Mr Crawford.

"The concrete cloth is inspired by the material used to make plaster casts in hospital, but we had to come up with a completely different way of making it work with concrete."


The "dragons" actually offered us the money we wanted, which was around £85,000

Will Crawford, Concrete Canvas

Along with his friend from Imperial College London, Mr Brewin, the two 28-year-olds turned the concrete cloth idea into a way of putting up cheap, long-lasting emergency shelters.

The shelter is delivered in a bag, which is ripped open and water added.

The material soaks up the moisture, activating the concrete. But the cloth remains flexible and is inflated by a battery-operated pump.

After 12 hours, the shelter becomes completely solid, and can even withstand being shot at with handguns.

"One of the competitions we entered helped to fund us to go out to Uganda for five weeks where we spoke with aid agencies and non-government organisations on the ground," said Mr Crawford.

"That really encouraged us to pursue the idea of the shelters."


The two inventors were so confident in their product they showcased it on the BBC's Dragon's Den, where entrepreneurs bid for funding from real-life millionaires.

"The 'dragons' actually offered us the money we wanted, which was around £85,000," said inventor Mr Crawford.

"But they wanted 40% of the company for that investment, and that was simply too much for us, so we walked away."

However, the shelter idea did not go unnoticed and the pair won development funding from the Department of Trade and Industry, and a regional assistance grant from the Welsh Assembly Government.

It has led to them setting up their production base at Treforest, near Pontypridd, with full-scale production starting in eight months.

The entrepreneurs have already sold a shelter to the US military to be assessed, and they will fly to America in the new year to give a demonstration to the US Naval Construction Force and federal emergency planners.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/south_east/7107940.stm

DreadPirate
11-29-2007, 04:04 AM
Good idea. I think it would have to be a small cal. handgun though.
But a very viable shelter.

fruit loop
11-29-2007, 10:06 AM
What do you do with the shelter when it's no longer needed? If it's concrete - won't it be hard to tear down? I can see these things popping up all over forests, activated by idiots....

Assembly time makes it impractical for emergency use. 12 hours? You can be dead by then.

AzProtector
11-29-2007, 04:28 PM
What do you do with the shelter when it's no longer needed? If it's concrete - won't it be hard to tear down? I can see these things popping up all over forests, activated by idiots....

Assembly time makes it impractical for emergency use. 12 hours? You can be dead by then.

Then buy the property!! 8)

I think it's a great idea, but probably cost prohibitive due to shipping from England...

Bear
12-04-2007, 08:48 AM
Now that is cool. I wonder what the dry unit weighs?

Caplock50
12-04-2007, 01:50 PM
I heard about these things about 2 years ago. Now think about this...they'd be perfect shelters for colonizing another planet, now wouldn't they? Say like Mars, eh? Think about it.

momof23goats
04-01-2008, 08:46 PM
I think they are great. wonder if they would make good fall out shelters? you could always use them for storage, or a barn, I can see many uses for these.
great. wouldn't mind having a couple of these babies, just to keep on hand.

Little RedRidingHood
04-01-2008, 09:45 PM
Use them for all the family members that refused to prep! And, if they don't make it up here to the mountains they can always be used for other uses here on the ranch!
Yep, I agree ... I can think of lots and lots of uses!

momof23goats
04-01-2008, 09:49 PM
wonder how much they cost? you can put a stove in them, and be all set. those a really neat. I can think of a zillion uses for them.

curlysue
04-01-2008, 09:55 PM
What a neat idea. Has anybody found out the cost?

ChiliPalmer
04-01-2008, 10:15 PM
What an awesome idea. Now that's innovative. Two thumbs up, and can't wait to see it for sale.

dreadstalker
04-01-2008, 10:19 PM
Cool idea! Research here I come.

BTW for a fall out shelter? Nope, too thin. Not enough density. 1 inch of lead will give you approximatley the same sheilding as 3 feet of hard packed dirt , 6 feet of watyer packed dirt or approximatley 1 foot of reinforced concrete.

That said I have to wonder how they would take the weight of having dirt mounded over them.

momof23goats
04-01-2008, 10:25 PM
I was wondering the same thing. if they could take the weight of dirt, then you could use it. the hole they use to blow it up, could become part of your air system.

SimonJ
04-01-2008, 11:00 PM
http://www.designboom.com/contemporary/concretecanvas.html
Not man portable, but could make a handy hideaway.

More details here.
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2005/03/66872
Shipping would be a killer, but the cost isnt all that bad.

momof23goats
04-01-2008, 11:42 PM
IF I had the money, i would get about 3 of these, for sure.

Freeholder
04-02-2008, 12:12 AM
I think it would be very possible to build these yourself, minus the pop-up feature. All it really is is ferrocement made portable. If you have your own land, you don't need portable, and if you built it now, you wouldn't need the 12-hour pop-up feature, either. Bet you could build it yourself for a lot less than they'll be charging for one. And with some reinforcing, it probably would take a lot of dirt heaped on top, making an excellent root cellar/fallout shelter.

Kathleen