...and there are some old practices that are effective and a good idea. A poop exchange in the year 2011 from an unknown source of origin and prepared in MRSA infected labs...not so much.
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It's said that newly hatched termites lack the microbes which would allow them to digest cellulose — do you need more than one guess to tell us where they get those microbes from?
No, you don't have to thank me. :mrgreen:
ewwwwww!!!!
AND and expensive way to deal with a problem. Has the medical establishment never heard of probiotics? Pick a gut problem and there's an enzyme or probiotic to go with it. It takes some serious research and tinkering with dosing, but it can be done. No risk of infection from foreign, er, matter, either.
And I thought this was gonna be about an election ....
O.W.
So, the lab rats are learning from horses? They are afterburners after all...
Is this thread about brain transplants for politicians?
Acctually...
probiotics are good, but just a small amt of the full spectrum of the normal gut flora of healthy people. which tends to vary based on diet and the individual. and eating health is huge- but it doesnt help much when your gut is damaged, you cant absorb well, and you dont have the normal human flora to do the needed chemical breakdown to liberate the chemicals before you absorb them.
so yeah, poop enemas are an old concept. but they work. dead sterilized poop doesnt have the live bacteria needed so you can restart your old normal colonization again. so thats out. i remember doing these for pts in the 80s, had an old GI doc that used to order them on pts who had bad gut infections, like Crohnes folks, that had had their gut sterilized by a course of heavy antibiotics to save their lives. to them, the jump start of the fecal transplant meant recovery, much faster than less icky interventions. yea i found it gross too, but seeing the success made me a believer. for a few selected pts, who had little ability to orally take nice pills yogurt etc and get where they needed to be- it was a huge quality of life issue. for them they could eat right but still starve to death, since they couldn't absorb the nutrients from food, supplements etc. due to damaged gut surface and lack of colonization.
imho, ick factor aint worth dying over, a miserable end of life course from physical starvation. or having a recovery of months not weeks. esp when you dont need to take it orally. administered it, would do it again, would take it if i had to. just test the donor for bad things that can be transmitted by blood/body fluids and stool before hand if possible. not really much different than sharing other body fluids with your partner, except it smells worse, and isnt socially acceptable, and doesnt involve oral transfer of same (a saving grace imho). and potentially safer, since that partner isnt usually tested for all transmissible diseases before one enters into that sharing experience. even people in safe-sex, monogamous relationships can catch something like hepatitis from a restaurant worker that's shedding pathogens and share that accidentally. tested fecal donors may even be safer.