Why undoing healthcare will be tough
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Why undoing healthcare will be tough
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It IS going to be repealed. Several lawmakers were on the tube today saying that is on table on Day One....
Embrace the suck!!!
It's time to eliminate the middle man and bring the medical care "professionals" back down to earth relative to their income ....
AIG, the insurance conglomerate, whose staffers produce NOTHING other than paupers and millionaires, were given over a trillion $$$ because they ... well, I've yet to hear a logical, sensible, comprehensive explanation.
All things considered, an uneducated guess would be sanctioned money laundering ....
O.W.
I am more interested in what their replacement is going to look like.
Remember Trump's promise was to "repeal and replace".
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...nt-begins.html
TonyWit, Congress is working on transition plans NOW to present to President Trump to handle at least some of the early-term fallout from drop-kicking Obamacare to the curb. And it will be pre-coordinated for Day One action. Get over it and stop your scaremongering, Wormtongue.
The only problem is that the insurers have learned that they can price higher and demand much higher deductibles. Even if Obamacare goes away, they are unlikely to drop prices back to where they were pre-Obamacare. My pre-Obamacare plan had a $2500 deductible. My post-Obamacare plan has a $10K deductible. I'll bet that doesn't change much.
People aren't paying, and just opting to get hit with the penalty. As long as that behavior stays the same or gets worse (and those are the options available) then the insurance companies will have to follow the law of supply and demand. It will change, but I wouldn't expect it immediately. The people making money on this are pretty fat at the moment and can wait to see if it goes the way you propose.
The insurance scam artists will either cut their prices to what people can pay or go out of business. Either way, the common guy will win because all these "health care entities" will go back to accepting what can be paid. Think pre-insurance company scam days.
Medicine used to be about helping people, not getting rich. Doctors were respected for their knowledge and caring, not their bank accounts and fancy houses.
The 4 ways Republicans can dismantle Obamacare, explained
http://www.vox.com/2016/11/10/13585964/republicans-obamacare-repeal?
Republicans? Republicans, as in "wee the peepse" republicans ain't the only ones being fleeced by this illegitimate fustercluck and it was republicant pundits who helped usher it in.
Mehbe you could graciously provide a very brief synopsis of your article ... I ain't gonna trouble myself to read it.
O.W.
The article discusses these possible approaches
1 Trump and a Republican House dismantle major parts of Obamacare via reconciliation
2 — and replace it with something else
3 The Senate eliminates the filibuster and repeals Obamacare outright
4 Trump uses executive action to dismantle certain parts of Obamacare
How about we just repeal it and keep the damn government out of it.
I appreciate the bullit points ... but first, while we're on the subject, lets identify exactly what obocare is.
In a nutshell it's a get rich quick scheme for a handful of folks while providing little to nothing in return to the payees.
Who benefits and how? And I ask this in sincerity cuz I'm a victim of the VA ... well not victim, uh recipient, yeah that's it.
So I'm unfamiliar with the intricacies of obocare and other than recognizing it as a wholesale scam, I know nothing else about it.
Forgo the legaleeze and describe some of the benefits and the beneficiaries and perhaps how this ... program is more advantageous as opposed to the old fashion doctor patient relationship.
At your leisure.
O.W.
Let’s be clear about your false premis in the first sentence—there is no “Obamacare cost-sharing subsidies that the Obama administration has provided.” The Obama administration has provided nothing! There is only robbing from one poor slob to pay for the insurance of another.
In my case, the first year of the ACA, my premiums went up more than 80% from $1100 per month to $1980 per month. That $880 difference was stolen from me to pay for some lazy couch potato’s insurance. The following year, my premiums increased again.I was paying over $25,000 per year for health insurance! Making me pay for someone else’s insurance in addition to my own is not only unfair to me, but UNSUSTAINABLE. Thankfully, in year two of Obamacare, I turned 65 and went on Medicare—something for which I had been paying in for decades--or I'd be bankrupt by now.
There is no such thing as government cost-sharing. There is only robbing from some folks to cover the expenses of others unwilling or unable to pay their own way. It’s about time the people rose up and demanded fairness.
Healthcare needs to be returned to a true free market environment. Right now, government and insurance companies determine the cost of healthcare, the doctors you may see and the hospitals you may use. In a free market the price of healthcare would be determined by how much people would be willing to pay. This would create competition between hospitals and between doctors. This would not only reduce prices, but would improve the quality of healthcare. If you liked a doctor, choose that doctor.
Well one thing he has pushed very hard and I agree with is removing the artificial state borders that limit where insurance companies can sell their policies. This alone should produce competition which should drive down rates, lower deductibles and expand coverage options for everyone. Also if they remove some of the things like birth control from being mandated policies can be more tailored to fit an individual/families need. My wife and I don't need birth control covered so why should we have to pay for it.
There are other things they could do to drive down the cost as well. At the doctors office why does my insurance company on reimburse the doctor $55 dollars but if I was paying cash (uninsured) the visit is $185. Set it up so doctors get the same from cash paying customers as they do from insurance companies.
Remove all of the records doctors have to file with govco, tracking your health like you are a piece of livestock that belongs to govco.
In the drugs area, a couple of changes would drive down prices quickly. First limit patents to a period of time just long enough to cover the expense of developing the drug and a couple of more years for profit. Then don't issue new patents for basically the same drug with a minor molecule change. Also make it the law of the land that charging more in the US for a drug than they do in other countries a crime that will immediately revoke all patents for that company and allow generics made by anyone available. Don't like that, then allow people to actually by drugs from wherever they want including other countries.
And how about letting government purchase bulk quantities of drugs at a discounted price for VA, Medicare, Medicaid and other groups that they are currently paying far to much for.
There are so many ways to improve/fix medicine, but many of them create competition which most of these companies wish to avoid.
The AMA. Ever see an MD or a hospital advertise prices?
I want to pay the doctor with a chicken.
I've always felt that health insurance should be like auto insurance.
Your auto insurance doesn't pay for oil changes and other maintenance items.
If health insurance didn't pay for doctor's visits, that cost would go way down.
Government costs add 25% to medical costs.
And the prescription drug thing is way out of control.
Same drug elsewhere is way less than here
Oscar, the VA needs to be abolished and replaced by The United States Armed Forces Medical Corps, modeled on the best atributes of the Army Corps of Engineers and the best functions of the V.A.. The Corps of Engineers and it's work , with some exceptions, has been one of the best examples of public/private interaction I can think of.
This same organization can purchase large amounts of healthcare and medicine from the private sector at discount prices to support veterans, national security and low income health care. The Surgeon General should head this organization as one of the joint chiefs of staff. Every states national guard force should include a robust medical compliment.
Veterans deserve health care 'up to and including' the best we can provide.
There is some synergy in the facts that V.A. and the obamacare mess both need to be fixed by government and at the same time.
You might just as well change those ujoints while you've got the trans out.
Seditious, this is all well beyond the narrow confines of my field of expertise but I will say ... write this down, provide some detail and submit to the incoming crew for review and implementation.
I would only add two things and I'm going to walk on that thin line betwixt socialism and this cancer often hailed as free market capitalism. At the basic local level, yes but beyond this is taxpayer funded, government controlled industrial grade bidness.
Your healthcare plan must be available to our society in it's entirety if for no other reason than to avoid the perception of a divide ... and it's just the right thing to do.
Secondly the AMA who is complicit must be abolished as well in addition to AIG returning the trillions provided them by the previous traitor in cheef.
I suppose what I have in mind is a kinder, gentler Pol Pot sweep ....
O.W.
The government has never done anything more efficiently than the private sector. Ever.. Never.
Healthcare is a market item. What is the federal government's best purchase model? Who do we need to buy that commodity for? Who do we need to buy that commodity from? The generic costs less than an epipen and is available. No Congresssional hearings required.
My last comment was unrelated to the topic and interjected as an afterthought relative to our collective social ills. I know, I shouldn't do that.
Anarchy? Not just yet, there is a figurehead that some believe shows promise but the gloves are going to have to come off ... and I don't believe in compromise.
O.W.
Ensure that the health coverage costs more than 8% of your income and claim the exception. No insurance and no penalty.
The IRS also can't charge penalties if you don't pay the SRP, nor can they take collection actions aside from taking your refund. Interest would continue to accumulate until paid.
TonyWit, so that pop and thud Wednesday wasn't you. Well you're back. Did the meeting outline the narrative, talking points and near term goals to achieve?
So why won't Obamacare survive not that it's doing awesomely well now considering all the carriers dropping out of the exchanges.
I expect in a fashion you will appreciate these...
Escalating cost, who would of thunk it?
This is 2013 and 2014, cost rose in 2015, 2016 and are scheduled to be for most increasing another 25% for 2017 with some 50%. You have to been incredibly ignorant or a part of the process of Obamacare-passing and maintaining it. It's what legacies are made of...
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But what did this administration claim from the top down? And don't forget Obutthole attempted to delay the implementation of Obutthole care via EO but congress halted him, for very good reason. Seems someone has an integrity issue...
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So how is the participation rate looking for 2017. I suppose fools and like minded folks will think less competition will reduced cost...
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Paul Ryan just announced that along with repealing Obamacare he wants to
phase out Medicare and replace it with private insurance for retirees.
Not sure that would be a terrible thing, necessarily.Quote:
Paul Ryan just announced that along with repealing Obamacare he wants to
phase out Medicare and replace it with private insurance for retirees.
However, that and social security reform are things that can't be touched
I read 7 Republican Obamacare replacement plans. Here’s what I learned
http://www.vox.com/2016/11/17/136264...ns-comparison?