What I would appreciate is for our resident anti-Catholic to stop attacking the Catholic Church in this thread so we can actually discuss the topic of the thread itself.
Thank you :)
Land Owner
What I would appreciate is for our resident anti-Catholic to stop attacking the Catholic Church in this thread so we can actually discuss the topic of the thread itself.
Thank you :)
Judge
You set up the RCC as the ONE TRUE CHURCH and claim it has the only ability to baptize and holds the 'truth' alone.Originally Posted by Theresej
That automatically puts you in a position to be challenged.
Stop making the claims and you will stop getting the challenges.
Accept that God alone dictates truth through His Holy Spirit or accept the challenges.
'A person with an experience is never at the mercy of a person with an argument,'" writes von Campe
Land Owner
I would like to be shown where I posted anywhere in this thread that the Catholic Church is the One True Church.
No one claimed anything in regards to the Catholic Church - RCC - until this post:
http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/s...7&postcount=65
That post doesn't belong to me. . . .
Land Owner
Emily, I was not going to bring this up (trying to abide by the words in your signature) but the items I list below are apropos:
1. Jesus is the only mediator we need.
Heb 12:24
to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of
sprinkling that speaks better things than [that of] Abel.
2. The cause of the Reformation was the corruption and
the profligate nature of the Pope i.e.
a. The sale of indulgences.
b. Simony
c. Pope Alexander VI incestuous affair with his daughter and
his two sons incestuous affair with the same daughter
(jealousy caused one son to kill the other).
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death , but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Merchant
Rosslunch two thoughts came to my mind after reading your last post.The first revolved around the question of Gods providence and how he allows those who he puts in positions of authority both in the Church and in the world,to become great sinners.I guess it revolves around the question of Free Will.The second thought that came to me was that it really is amazing that a Pope, as depraved as this Pope apparently was,would not proceed on in his Papacy and destroy the foundations and the teachings of Jesus 's body which is the Church. Thats when one really begins to ponder the promise that the gates of hell would not prevail aganst it.Thank you Jesus jk
Land Owner
StPatrick, I remembered the business about the incestuous affair with his daughter, but I didn't know the half of it. It was so out of control (there was much more than what I posted) that only by the will of God did the Church survive.
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death , but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Judge
The one true church are all those who belong to Jesus and to whom He is their savior.
The one true church are individuals who comprise the faithful.
It is not any particular organization and the only head is Christ Jesus.
I understand why many people feel the need to have human leaders. I accept that.
But please don't force it on those who have one high priest and Lord - Jesus.
It isn't complicated. A child can understand it.
John 3 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
As for communion, Jesus said 'whenever' you do this, do it in remembrance of me.
There is no requirement except for the initial profession of their faith in public and to take communion with wine and bread at least once as part of the Christian community.
1 Corinthians 11:25
In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.”
And TJ - you have said over and over again since you started here at TTOL that the term CHRISTIAN belongs to the RCC. You have made statements such as 'Christian's have never taught that' when discussing your disagreement with dispensationalist beliefs (and misrepresenting what dispensationalists believe by the way) and you continue to use the term Christian (and I have asked you to stop and you respond by claiming the RCC is the one true church and are the true Christians) so you are now backing away from that and respecting that there are Christians outside of the RCC and do not believe the same rituals, etc. that you do then we are square.
Ross - I have no idea what you are talking about in your post but thank you for trying.
I think I am done posting to this thread. I've stood against the cannibal and blood drinking claims, and also that there is no evidence that Peter started the RCC, and that pedophile protectors should not be the ones anyone puts their trust in for their eternity. I realize you guys have a passion for your denomination but please accept that not everyone agrees with the practices and ideals of the RCC>
EVERY denomination has its problems. That does not make anyone a hypocrite unless any of them think that they alone stand above the rest.
Salvation is by Jesus alone, by faith alone, by grace alone and YES - you can be SURE of your salvation and not have to wonder if you are or are not eternally saved.
1 John 5:13
[ Concluding Affirmations ] I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.
1 Peter 1:23
For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God.
And in case anyone did not read the above with the gentleness and love in which it is being said from my heart to yours, please try to understand that the written word does not have a voice inflection to denote the tone in which something is being said. So please read it with the compassion and love that is in my heart in this post. There i no offense intended and hope that this post has clarified my position as I step away from this thread.
'A person with an experience is never at the mercy of a person with an argument,'" writes von Campe
Senator
Thank you Emily. You have eased my heart once again. You are a blessing to all of us on this forum. AL
Land Owner
This one verse sums up how wrong the whole of your post is .....
Acts 2 : [42] And they devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers.
Land Owner
Emily, I quoted your post, and should have been answering ThereseJ or Fisheater. I apologize for my error.
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death , but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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