Quote Originally Posted by Fisheater View Post
The Bible is the book of the Church; she is not the Church of the Bible. It was the Catholic Church--her leadership, faithful people--guided by the authority of the Spirit of Truth which discovered the books inspired by God in their writing

380 A.D. The Latin Vulgate was translated by St. Jerome. He translated into Latin the Old Testament from the Hebrew and the New Testament from Greek. The Latin Vulgate became the Bible of the Western Church until the Protestant Reformation in the 1500's. It continues to be the authoritative translation of the Roman Catholic Church to this day.

There was a constant history of faithful people from Paul's time through the Apostolic and Post Apostolic Church.

Melito, bishop of Sardis, an ancient city of Asia Minor (see Rev 3), c. 170 AD produced the first known Christian attempt at an Old Testament canon. His list maintains the Septuagint order of books but contains only the Old Testament protocanonicals minus the Book of Esther.

The Council of Laodicea, c. 360, produced a list of books similar to today's canon. This was one of the Church's earliest decisions on a canon.

Pope Damasus, 366-384, in his Decree, listed the books of today's canon.

The Council of Rome, 382, was the forum which prompted Pope Damasus' Decree.

Bishop Exuperius of Toulouse wrote to Pope Innocent I in 405 requesting a list of canonical books.

Pope Innocent listed the present canon.

The Council of Hippo, a local north Africa council of bishops created the list of the Old and New Testament books in 393 which is the same as the Roman Catholic list today.

The Council of Carthage, a local north Africa council of bishops created the same list of canonical books in 397.

This is the council which many Protestant and Evangelical Christians take as the authority for the New Testament canon of books. The Old Testament canon from the same council is identical to Roman Catholic canon today. Another Council of Carthage in 419 offered the same list of canonical books.

Since the Roman Catholic Church does not define truths unless errors abound on the matter, Roman Catholic Christians look to the Council of Florence, an ecumenical council in 1441 for the first definitive list of canonical books. The final infallible definition of canonical books for Roman Catholic Christians came from the Council of Trent in 1556 in the face of the errors of the Reformers who rejected seven Old Testament books from the canon of scripture to that time.



I do not see the Church of Emily in the history here ... So I ask. How can you use and trust a book that was put together by those you so mistrust?
Why do you always have to resort to insults?
Jesus said: John 13:35
By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

You can quote the RCC's version of history all you want it still doesn't make it true.

Give it up. You are not going to convince me that the pedophile protecting group of men are those whom Christ turned over His ministry.

Jesus is outside of time and knows the end from the beginning. He would not have seen what the RCC has done and consider them the ones to whom He would entrust His church of love.

If you accept and believe that then that is between you and God.

You will never convince me either by quoting their own writings to try to prove it to others or with your insults.