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    Quote Originally Posted by Son of George View Post
    But Paul taught Jesus. Haven't you learned that Jesus is Torah?

    Jesus = Law (John 1:1)
    Jesus = God
    Law = God

    God must be worshiped so the Law must be worshiped.

    Don't pay any attention to the logic just accept it!
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God....'Nuff said.
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    You are right Melodious Musician.

    It was a part of Him.

    Another interesting tidbit of information I would like to share is when Yeshua said I am the Aleph and the Tov.

    If you look at the very beginning verse in Gen 1:1 you see the Aleph and Tov together. In Hebrew it's called Eth or a direct object pointer. Meaning this.

    In the beginning G-d created ->by Yeshua -> the Heaven's and the Earth.

    I believe John had this revelation and thus mentioned in verse 3.


    Jhn 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRodgers View Post
    You are right Melodious Musician.

    It was a part of Him.
    NO. Jesus Christ is not 'part' of God. He is God. "The Word was with God, and the Word WAS God."

    Another interesting tidbit of information I would like to share is when Yeshua said I am the Aleph and the Tov.

    If you look at the very beginning verse in Gen 1:1 you see the Aleph and Tov together. In Hebrew it's called Eth or a direct object pointer. Meaning this.

    In the beginning G-d created ->by Yeshua -> the Heaven's and the Earth.

    I believe John had this revelation and thus mentioned in verse 3.


    Jhn 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
    You are teaching a concept taught in Kabbalah; that the world was created by the power of the Hebrew alef-bet.

    It was not.

    When Jesus says He is the Alpha and Omega (just love how you rewrote that in the Hebrew, how very subtle), He is stating that He is the Beginning and the End . . . not that there is some mystical power in Hebrew letters!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melodious Musician View Post
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God....'Nuff said.
    If that was enough then why did God give us 66 books of instruction, teaching and prophecy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathe View Post
    If that was enough then why did God give us 66 books of instruction, teaching and prophecy?
    Did He give us ONLY 66 books?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathe View Post
    If that was enough then why did God give us 66 books of instruction, teaching and prophecy?
    I meant, by that, that God preserves His Word through Christ--I don't think that God would allow something in the Bible that didn't agree with His Law.

    The OP was wondering whether or not Paul's words were a test, rather than what the Lord wanted us to learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melodious Musician View Post
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God....'Nuff said.
    "The Word" does not mean scripture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theresej View Post
    "The Word" does not mean scripture.
    I refers to Christ--that He is the Law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melodious Musician View Post
    I refers to Christ--that He is the Law.
    Where does it say He is the Law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theresej View Post
    Where does it say He is the Law?
    Isa 1:10 Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.

    The 1898 Young's literal translation says,
    Isa 1:10 Hear the word of Jehovah, ye rulers of Sodom, Give ear to the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah,

    Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God;
    Joh 1:2 this one was in the beginning with God;
    Joh 1:3 all things through him did happen, and without him happened not even one thing that hath happened.
    Joh 1:4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men,

    Theresej, Why don't you ask God who is the Law and tell us what He personally said to you? After all, He told us that His ways are higher that our ways and His thoughts are higher than our thoughts. Let's tune to His higher thoughts, shall we?
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    This is the most important, the first on any list.

    But there is a second to set alongside it: 'Love others as well as you love yourself.'

    These two commands are pegs; everything in God's Law and the Prophets hangs from them."

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