What is sin? Scripture please.
What did we repent from?
Thanks!
Esquire
What is sin? Scripture please.
What did we repent from?
Thanks!
Land Owner
Most folks will take a single verse out of the following passage in an effort to define sin and they are correct in so doing but we should be mindful of the entire passage and the context in which the definition is used:Originally Posted by Al Swearengen
1 John 3:1-11 1Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
11For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another."
John 1:17,
"For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ."
Esquire
And IF we sin (transgress)...
1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jn 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
1Jn 2:7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
What is the "old" commandment fron the beginning? And...as I asked before, what IS sin and what did we repent from?
Land Owner
Which of Christ's Commandments sum up the law and the prophets?
Matthew 22:37-40, "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."
John 1:17,
"For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ."
Galatians 2:21, "I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain."
Romans 7:6, "But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter."
Hebrews 8:13, "In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away."
1 John 2:8, "Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth."
Side note: It's been nice having this conversation with you without all the Kindergartners swarming my posts. Fresh air!
John 1:17,
"For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ."
Esquire
Again...what is sin...and what DID we repent from? You quote a lot of Scripture above, and mention new covenant, but is not the new covenant Torah written upon the hearts? That's what Scripture says.
Also, foundationally, we must build on solid Rock...look at this prophecy concerning Messiah...how do you read it...and how would those who looked for Messiah when He came have read it?
Isa 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
Isa 42:2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.
Isa 42:3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.
Isa 42:4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his Torah.
Isa 42:21 The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the Torah, and make it honourable.
I'm in a pinch right now...will have to continue later...a fellow who was in prison (part of who I minister to) got out and I'm gonna take him and another brother to breakfast!
Land Owner
God bless your ministry. No worries about responding.
This parable is helpful:
Mark 2:21-22, "No man also seweth a piece of new cloth on an old garment: else the new piece that filled it up taketh away from the old, and the rent is made worse. And no man putteth new wine into old bottles: else the new wine doth burst the bottles, and the wine is spilled, and the bottles will be marred: but new wine must be put into new bottles."
Jesus Christ has revealed a better way than the old way. He didn't come to "new wine" in the "old bottle" but to give us new wine in a new bottle.
John 1:17,
"For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ."
Land Owner
Through the Holy Ghost, I humbly offer this bit of advice... Do with it as you will... I only did what I was commanded to do, all further discourse must be directed to our Father, from whom we have our being...
1Co 3:10 According to the grace (the special endowment for my task) of God bestowed on me, like a skillful architect and master builder I laid [the] foundation, and now another [man] is building upon it. But let each [man] be careful how he builds upon it,
1Co 3:11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is [already] laid, which is Jesus Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One).
1Co 3:12 But if anyone builds upon the Foundation, whether it be with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw,
1Co 3:13 The work of each [one] will become [plainly, openly] known (shown for what it is); for the day [of Christ] will disclose and declare it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test and critically appraise the character and worth of the work each person has done.
1Co 3:14 If the work which any person has built on this Foundation [any product of his efforts whatever] survives [this test], he will get his reward.
1Co 3:15 But if any person's work is burned up [under the test], he will suffer the loss [of it all, losing his reward], though he himself will be saved, but only as [one who has passed] through fire.
Love ya!
Pride Always Has A Better Idea.
And it's not your job to mold me to your likeness!
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Mat 22:37-40 (msg) Jesus said, "'Love the Lord your God with all your passion and prayer and intelligence.'
This is the most important, the first on any list.
But there is a second to set alongside it: 'Love others as well as you love yourself.'
These two commands are pegs; everything in God's Law and the Prophets hangs from them."
Congressman
I know you don't agree with me brother Temu, but Israel is repeatedly called the servant in Isaiah and here again, Israel the righteous remnant is the servant who magnifies the Torah. Did Israel not give their life for Torah?
And yes, Israel is a moshiach, they brought the Tree of Life, the lamp unto their feet, Torah, to the nations, but were despised for it and killed.
And having said that, we have to understand what 'moshiach/messiah' really means. It doesn't mean THE messiah. Moshiach means 'anointed.' You could be a moshiach, anointed with a task to share Torah with gentiles, you could be the Torah in the flesh by being a living example of the Torah being lived out righteously... that pertains to each of us! I could be anointed, I could represent Torah in the flesh... and throughout Torah, many were anointed. Priests, kings, even the rock that Jacob rest his head on. Messiah does not necessarily mean 'savior,' it means 'anointed.' We have to know what words meant to the Hebrew/Jewish authors of the Tanakh. The reason so much is off course if because we've gotten all Greek on a Hebrew book.
So, having said all that, many passages are messianic. Since Israel is the servant and Israel is a moschiach, yes, these verses can be messianic. And there are also many verses which are claimed to be messianic prophecies that in fact are NOT.
Discernment.
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