Who's More Righteous?

[Al Swearengen]

Even if a man believed wholeheartedly in Jesus Christ AND kept all 613 of the Torah laws if he failed to keep even one of those laws perfectly he failed to keep them all. So all of that work to keep the law perfectly is made null and void when he fails to keep one of them:

James 2:10, "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1Jn 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

1Jn 2:7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.



Praise Yeshua!

[ActionJackson]

1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1Jn 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

1Jn 2:7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.



Praise Yeshua!

Nice verses. Remember, though, that the "word which ye have heard from the beginning" refers to the Word spoken in the Garden of Eden which precedes the word spoken to Moses at Sinai. In other words, the beginning precedes the middle.

1 John 3:11, "For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another."

John 13:34, "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another."

2 John 1:6, "And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning (See 1 John 3:11), ye should walk in it."

Here are the Commandments of Jesus Christ:

Matthew 22:37-40, "37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.38This is the first and great commandment.39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."

Matthew 7:12, "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets."

Galatians 5:14, "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."

Galatians 6:2, "Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ."

Romans 8:2, "For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death."

James 2:8, "If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:"

Edit:After thinking about it for a moment, "the beginning" could be one of two points in history. The literal "beginning" which is "in the beginning" or the Creation period or it could be the beginning of the New Covenant which began at the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I'm leaning towards the latter conclusion but it's worth studying. In either case, the Mosaic Law occurred long after the Creation beginning and long before the New Covenant or death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

[Rob_0126]

The devil loves squabbles like this.

#1 goes to heaven. Christ is the only way, and thru him, we keep the commandments, old and new, because truly, they are one and the same. God doesnt change, we do, with our imaginations.

Glory to God thru Jesus, our Everything.

[janetn]

If righteousness was able to be earned by law keeping then Christ died in vain. My righteousness is a gift from a loving gracious God - I accepted that gift through faith. Now am I going to add to that righteousness that was a gift from God by keeping the law? The law did nothing for me accept show me that I was is need of a saviour, I could never measure up to the law. Those who think they can win Gods favor by keeping the law are filled with self righeuosness. They have no need of a savoiur - they have the law and their delusion of Gods favor through their own works.

Two men went to the synagoge one a sinner stayed in the back his plea God have mercy on me a sinner. The other sat right up front his prayer was one of self righeousness - his plea - oh arent I great because of who I am [an accident of birth] and boy am I righteous arent you impressed with my works God look at how great I am!

Their is the problem with the law - its your works not Gods, the focus shifts to you and what you do. No bragging in the Kingdom about what you did or did not do. all bragging will be about what a gracious God we have who saved us from our sins.

The thief had faith in a saviour who was dying before his eyes - no logicial reason for him to belive in a humiliated dying saviour, yet he did. One of the greatest examples of faith in scripture! Jesus never reacted negitivly to faith. He often did to self righteousness - a stepchild to law keeping