To me, an index is an index...a listing...and not necessarily an endorsement of the services of those listed in the index.
Example: Just because my name appears in the same phone book as the local abortuary doesn't NOT mean I approve of abortions. The phone book is nothing more than an index. So, why would a person be upset if their favorite Christian Pastor is listed among an index of Christian ministries????
I'm trying to make sense of your post Watchin and Waitin...but it's not happening for me. It seems you are saying two different things so I'm not sure of your point.
If a ministry you don't like makes a list which includes a ministry you do like..why would you be upset?
Second Question:
I looked at the C&D order against Jim Staley, and to me it looks as though Jin Staley is being penalized for failure to make a profit. Not all businesses profit! Anytime you take on a business and are putting out money to invest in that business, you are taking a risk, and you can loose your shirt. Investors know this prior to investing. There really doesn't seem to be enough information there for an individual to make any judgments against Mr. Staley except for the fact that fines and penalties are imposed upon him, because his business failed.
Welcome to the new America! wow..business sometimes fails! I also see where he's accused of not having licensing for something. But, the document fails to prove whether or not Mr. Staley knew that that particular license was required, or whether it was arbitrairly fostered, after the fact.
I've listened to a few of Mr. Staley's youtubes, and I've listened to a few others as well. I've not decided yet which of them I like the best. But, I have a feeling that if there is dirt associated with him, WND will find it out...better yet, I'm sure that they did exactly that before promoting him in any fashion. I certainly wouldn't want MY business associated with unethical conduct, and I seriously doubt WND wants it either. They want to make a profit, too!
I've read WND off and on for over 10 years and it's been my observation that Mr. Farrah exposes dirt. He and his organization must be above reproach themselves to survive that kind of business, because it makes a lot of enemies.
As for Mr. Gordon...I'm not sure if I'm familiar with his ministry or not. If it's the one I think it is, I don't care for what they preach, either. By the same token, there are and have been professing Christian ministries that strike me as false, also. I won't list them here.
Ultimately, as with all preachers, one must be sure to test the teaching against the word. If our personal understanding of the word is flawed, so will our conclusions be, despite how true we want to think our understanding is or how good our intentions are, we may be mistaken. In that case, all the howling in the word against a particular preacher is going to do nothing more than destroy one's own credibility.
Be very careful and wary about what you say (tearing him down) about a brother in Messiah, and how you say it. You could be very mistaken, and not realize it, yet.
As an American you have the right to not believe in guns. You also have the right to not believe in God. But if someone is trying to break into your home, or wants to harm you, the first thing you will do is pick up the phone and call someone with a gun. The second thing you will do is pray that they get there in time. ~Don Moore
Originally Posted by Buick Electra
I'm not 'mocking,' just trying to find out WHICH day us non-HRM people can expect a relief/break from you guys posting as I'd expect since you've become 'Jewish' and practice all they did in the OT, WHAT day you guys really, REALLY adhere to what you espouse and give the rest of us a break on a specific day?
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