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[moonarch]

kozanne
And their 'chains' will get ever tighter as socialism imposes the shared misery of Obamacare on everyone. NOTHING is free.

Correct, nothing in life is free, all of the transfer of wealth payments are pay as you go, the "extra monies" were spent long ago, we are borrowing TRILLIONS from our future enemies and the debt will be due, and will be paid for by everyone 50 years and younger, mainly with the blood, death of the young, those older are FREE, in a physical sense.

I do not see how the chains could be any tighter for those Sucker Slaves on the hook for 15 TRILLION DOLLARS of debt and the 100 PLUS TRILLION DOLLARS OF PROMISES TO RETIREES.

Everyone who advocates the present status quo is generally not on the hook for the debt, they have gone along with socialist schemes because they benefited from the schemes and because they are mandated.

Yes I am for shared sacrifice, it should not be just young people losing their arms and legs, dying in their teens and 20's - and for what ?
To come home and beg for a prosthetic, for an arm or leg ?
To beg for a meal or a place to live ? To work until they drop dead so others can rest and relax for 20-40 years ?

Meanwhile Billionaires and Millionaires and wealthy collect socialist security and get basically FREE or heavily subsidized socialized medicine.

Right now, today, we have socialism for favored groups that feed off of the slave class at the bottom of the pyramid.

Just Saying:

Please allow the working slaves to take their children to a doctor when they are ill, give their children more than forced poisonous inoculations that give them brain damage and destroy their bodies.

Please allow middle agers earning low wages to see a physician when they are ill, because they became ill without medical insurance and have not yet reached the "golden goose egg socialized eligibility age" - What about all the decades THEY worked, don't those 30-40 years of work "count" ?

Please do not wish and be happy about the early preventable death of a young slave, or a young slaves child, or a middle aged slave, please do not mock them, they are the victims of these socialist ponzi schemes.

The Supremes should rule on the LACK of fairness or unfairness of all social programs, the fact that those programs have turned IOUSA into a Nation of Slaves forced to serve the remnant-citizens of the former empire.

Share Equally and Fairly or Not At All, and never borrow from future generations if you are just tossing their hard earned wages to everyone, even the wealthy.
All socialist ponzi schemes should at least be means tested.

[saulteux]

The simple truth is that the country can no longer afford it; we're broke, right now.

The Supremes should rule on the LACK of fairness or unfairness of all social programs, the fact that those programs have turned IOUSA into a Nation of Slaves forced to serve the remnant-citizens of the former empire.

BTW, until Jesus comes back, there's no such thing as fairness. Period.

[moonarch]

saulteux
The simple truth is that the country can no longer afford it; we're broke, right now.

Finally, Exactly.

The simple truth is that the country can no longer afford it -

"it" - what we have been doing for the past 40 years.

'it" - ie; ALL ENTITLEMENT TRANSFER OF WEALTH PONZI FRAUD SCHEMES
must be ended immediately, MEANS TESTING MUST BEGIN IMMEDIATELY.

Some of the savings, the saved monies can be used to purchase the prosthetics - the arms, legs limbs of dismembered Military Veterans, the artificial limbs they will need for decades after the undeclared wars.

Some of the savings could be used for simple medicines for the poor, like penicillin, or other antibiotics.

Imagine, young children and poor adults do not have to die from an easily curable infection, they can live, not as long as the retirees do for free for 30-50 years, but they can gain at least a couple, few more years, even if they are slaves, cannon fodder, easily expendable or "disappeared". They want to live too ! Even if they are considered worthless sh*t.

I would even grandfather "it" the end of "it" - the transfer of wealth - the theft of the wages of the poor - and look for hidden assets of all the "entitlees".

BTW, until Jesus comes back, there's no such thing as fairness. Period.

So true. Jesus caught the last train for the coast decades ago. Left us all here at the mercy of a greedy, needy, never satisfied soul destroying mob.

Wish those that worship Jesus would at least try to imitate Him, instead of secretly imitating and worshiping the enemy of Christ.

Just saying, I wish human beings would put their FAKE RELIGION and FAKE MORALITY where their money is. Then again, they already have.

Here is the proof - look around, they country is ruined.

[4Him]

ALL ENTITLEMENT TRANSFER OF WEALTH PONZI FRAUD SCHEMES
must be ended immediately, MEANS TESTING MUST BEGIN IMMEDIATELY.

Some of the savings, the saved monies can be used to purchase the prosthetics - the arms, legs limbs of dismembered Military Veterans, the artificial limbs they will need for decades after the undeclared wars.

They want to live too ! Even if they are considered worthless sh*t.

I would even grandfather "it" the end of "it" - the transfer of wealth - the theft of the wages of the poor - and look for hidden assets of all the "entitlees".

So true. Jesus caught the last train for the coast decades ago. Left us all here at the mercy of a greedy, needy, never satisfied soul destroying mob.

Wish those that worship Jesus would at least try to imitate Him, instead of secretly imitating and worshiping the enemy of Christ.

Just saying, I wish human beings would put their FAKE RELIGION and FAKE MORALITY where their money is. Then again, they already have.

Here is the proof - look around, they country is ruined.

Moonarch. I think I have seen this rant of yours before....ad nauseum.
You hijack every thread that you can to turn it into your OWS "oh, you big bad 99% are really the 1% and taking all my future and money and all my childrens money."

If you think we are all so bad and life is so unfair here in the good old USA, there are plenty of places you could live like Russia that would give you what you think you are entitled.

You are the very worst type of hypocrite. You want your "free stuff" but you want it at the expense of those who already paid for their "free stuff" therefore making it "not free" and claiming they got it for "free".

Do you think life was "fair" for me, when I was young, living in Montana 9 miles from the Canadian border, 54 miles to the closest town over gravel road. Making 199.00 a month to feed a family of 3, in 35 below 0 weather 9 months of the year,to protect this country from invasion on the DEW line?

Well, we didn't waste our time whining about how unfair life is and how we were slaves and everyone was living high off the hog on the sweat from our brows. We did what we had to do and moved on. Built a life for ourselves, paid our taxes , gave our tithes, and prayed God would bless us, our families and the country.

I, for one, am not buying into your carp. People on the forum often treat you as if you had some validity and that your arguments some merit.

You are like a broken record. If you think you are going to fix the world, and this country that you hold in such disdain, by crying on this forum every chance you get.....I got news for ya. Anything gotten any better since you started all your whining? Didn't think so!

I'd think alot more of you if you were out in the world, instead of on the internet, trying to solve some of the problems that you are so constantly crying about.

Until then you are just a bloviator.

Big news of the day...........they are not going to get fixed here. Sorry.

[kozanne]

4Him, well said. I suspected as much myself, but didn't know the history you just layed out.

I had an interesting email conversation with one of the original OWS organizers before they went to Zucotti Park. Told them who the real enemy is, and it ain't rich people. But, they've been well indoctrinated, lugging around their several hundred dollar I-pads while bemoaning their 'poverty'. I have no respect for them.

Reminds me of the time I was approached by an OWS type on the ASU campus. Wanted me to sign a petition that would effectively remove all campaign financing support for anyone running for public office. You should have seen the look on her face when I told her that if that were to happen, only the very wealthy could afford to hold office......

Hoisted on their own petard.

[forever blessed]

And what about compulsory military service?

Were draftees given a contract to sign, spelling out the conditions and length of their time in uniform?

[kozanne]

And what about compulsory military service?

Were draftees given a contract to sign, spelling out the conditions and length of their time in uniform?

If you're talking about today's military, well, there is no compulsory military service.

[moonarch]

kozanne
If you're talking about today's military, well, there is no compulsory military service.

Correct, no need for a compulsory conscription -

You join to eat, it is an economic draft.

Come home missing your arms and legs, stand in line, there are more "worthy" ahead of you.

I always believed the "All Volunteer" scam was enacted so that the privileged that send the teenagers and 20 year olds off to war could enjoy watching it on TV guilt free. After all, they deserve to die - because they "volunteered" - they are not holy or righteous like the Greediest-Greatest Generation.

The comfortable, entitled have been trained like circus animals to watch their young, the future, being culled and sacrificed, sometimes they even get to enjoy the sick show on TV, after dinner, what a desert.

It's just worthless young people, who couldn't find a job, if they die who cares, more for US.

Slavery.

Sick Society.

Even worse than Nam, this is human sacrifice-entertainment.

[moonarch]

4Him
Moonarch. I think I have seen this rant of yours before....ad nauseum.
You hijack every thread that you can to turn it into your OWS "oh, you big bad 99% are really the 1% and taking all my future and money and all my childrens money."

If you think we are all so bad and life is so unfair here in the good old USA, there are plenty of places you could live like Russia that would give you what you think you are entitled.

Have you visited Russia ? Do you know any ?

I'm entitled to my opinion, whether you agree or enjoy.

Are you worried about freedom of speech for slaves ?

Do you worry that the slave class may decide death is better than serving others for a life time of their labor?

Just saying the bottom of the pyramid may decide death is better than slavery servitude.

I hope and expect the slaves will wake up and claim their God Given Freedom. Or at least call a spade a spade.


You are the very worst type of hypocrite. You want your "free stuff" but you want it at the expense of those who already paid for their "free stuff" therefore making it "not free" and claiming they got it for "free".

Do you think life was "fair" for me, when I was young, living in Montana 9 miles from the Canadian border, 54 miles to the closest town over gravel road. Making 199.00 a month to feed a family of 3, in 35 below 0 weather 9 months of the year,to protect this country from invasion on the DEW line?


Bla bla - you say I'm a hypocrite, you don't even know me. I do not want and do not - have never gotten "free stuff".

I did enjoy your poverty narrative, the gravel road, I wish I could give you a medal or reward for being poor. Didn't YOU say Life Is Not Fair ?

You are like a broken record. If you think you are going to fix the world, and this country that you hold in such disdain, by crying on this forum every chance you get.....I got news for ya. Anything gotten any better since you started all your whining? Didn't think so!

I'd think alot more of you if you were out in the world, instead of on the internet, trying to solve some of the problems that you are so constantly crying about.

Thank You - I learned a lot. More than you will ever know.

Until then you are just a bloviator.

Sticks and Stones May Break My Bones, But Names Will Never Hurt Me

[4Him]

4Him
Moonarch. I think I have seen this rant of yours before....ad nauseum.
You hijack every thread that you can to turn it into your OWS "oh, you big bad 99% are really the 1% and taking all my future and money and all my childrens money."

If you think we are all so bad and life is so unfair here in the good old USA, there are plenty of places you could live like Russia that would give you what you think you are entitled.

Have you visited Russia ? Do you know any ?

I'm entitled to my opinion, whether you agree or enjoy.

Are you worried about freedom of speech for slaves ?

Do you worry that the slave class may decide death is better than serving others for a life time of their labor?

Just saying the bottom of the pyramid may decide death is better than slavery servitude.

I hope and expect the slaves will wake up and claim their God Given Freedom. Or at least call a spade a spade.


You are the very worst type of hypocrite. You want your "free stuff" but you want it at the expense of those who already paid for their "free stuff" therefore making it "not free" and claiming they got it for "free".

Do you think life was "fair" for me, when I was young, living in Montana 9 miles from the Canadian border, 54 miles to the closest town over gravel road. Making 199.00 a month to feed a family of 3, in 35 below 0 weather 9 months of the year,to protect this country from invasion on the DEW line?


Bla bla - you say I'm a hypocrite, you don't even know me. I do not want and do not - have never gotten "free stuff".

I did enjoy your poverty narrative, the gravel road, I wish I could give you a medal or reward for being poor. Didn't YOU say Life Is Not Fair ?

You are like a broken record. If you think you are going to fix the world, and this country that you hold in such disdain, by crying on this forum every chance you get.....I got news for ya. Anything gotten any better since you started all your whining? Didn't think so!

I'd think alot more of you if you were out in the world, instead of on the internet, trying to solve some of the problems that you are so constantly crying about.

Thank You - I learned a lot. More than you will ever know.

Until then you are just a bloviator.

Sticks and Stones May Break My Bones, But Names Will Never Hurt Me

I repeat......You are a bloviator. I,too, am entitled to my opinion. And every time you get on this same old rant, I will express my opinion that you are a bloviator.
Maybe someone will pay me a stipend every time I have to use the word "bloviator". That would be cool.