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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Red View Post
    Oh, for the love of Pete. You know why I no longer include cites and links for this abiotic oil crap? It's because I have done this so many times with so many people who are so incredibly ignorant of reality and want/need/must believe that the world is something it isn't to justify ... I dunno, their own sense of self-worth, maybe? Use the Search function for this board, and you'll find plenty of information from me, MinnesotaSmith, and lots of others. But if instead you want to ignore reality and believe the deliberate fantasies of people who have a vested interest ("Buy my book/video/podcast to learn the truth!") in spinning fairy tales, please, be my guest. It's like people who point to the White Tiger field off Vietnam and say, "See? See? they drilled into granite and found oil." Without mentioning, of course, that the fractured granite overlays a sandstone oil-bearing layer. Or the gfolks who point to the outer planets and say "See? See? Methane rain!" Without mentioning, of course, that there is no methane rain or oceans of hydrocarbons on any of the inner planets because they're too freaking warm!

    I give up. This is the last I'll say on this subject here. Believe what you want. It won't change the reality.

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    Almost all modern refineries employ hydrocracking/hydrotreating and steam methane reformers. These technologies are descendants of the German processes. It's all about the hydrogen to carbon ratio.

    Coal- minimal hydrogen
    Tar sands - close to coal, several upgraders use the tech to make synthetic crude that refineries can process. Upgraders basiclly eject carbon and pump in hydrogen increasing the hydrogen to carbon ratio.
    Very heavy crude - same type of upgraders in VZ to improve oil quality so refineries can process them.

    One by product of this process is H2S, a very poisonous gas, that needs to be delt with. The heavier the feedstock the more impurities, like nickel and vanadium that poison the catalyst.

    Another process is POX or partial oxidation, notoriously unreliable but can turn most things carbon into syngas, which can either be used as fuel or fisher troped into saturated hydrocarbon chains. Like the gas to liquid projects in the middle east. This process makes jet and diesel, not gasoline which needs lots of double bonds for octane.
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    While it would be nice that the fantasy of endless abiotic oil would be true but it simply is not and reality will not be changed. Just because Titan has seas of liquid methane does not change the reality here on Earth (and on Titan) that there is a finite supply. I agree with Big Red and MS that this has been discuss over and over before.

    No one has ever drilled into the mantle and found oil. Drill to a depth deeper then a certain depth and temp. and there will not be oil. (It is called the oil window) If all of you believe that Geologists, Geochemists, Geophysicists, Oil Companies, Universities and engineers all over the world are wrong. Put together a company, put your money up, hire a rig, and drill an exploritory well. If you are right, then you will be a very wealth person. I have not seen anyone do it yet.
    When ever I have to make a decision I ask myself WWDD (What would Dogbert do)

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    Funny how these Abiotic Experts never find any of this abiotic oil. Where is it? Why aren't they drilling, producing and selling and getting rich, rich, rich?
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