Sorry for my ignorance... this mark of the beast deal, is it still binding if you are not aware you are accepting a mark of the beast?
The Mark of the Beast – What Your Church May Not Be Telling You
03/22/2011 ICA Leave a comment Go to comments
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By ICA
Revelation 13:16-17, “He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”The most popular view today regarding the Mark of the Beast in Revelation 13 is that it is a literal mark physically placed in the forehead or right hand of those who worship Antichrist. Many teachers of Biblical eschatology will even refer to modern 21st century technology and point to some type of tattoo or implantable microchip under the skin when attempting to explain the mark. But why? What is in the text that leads many to believe that this mark must be physical when, after all, virtually every one of us would agree that while the book of Revelation speaks about the dragon, the Beast, the “Whore of Babylon” or the mark of Christ upon the elect etc. that these descriptions are not referring to a literal dragon, a literal animal, a literal prostitute or a literal seal of Christ? This is obviously figurative language pointing to something completely different. On the other hand, so to speak, is there anything from Scripture to indicate for us that this mark need not be a physical mark at all, but could instead be something else entirely?
After careful consideration, I believe that the Mark of the Beast is very likely a spiritual mark just as the mark of Christ upon the elect is spiritual. Since many will resist the suggestion that a figurative Beast will also have a figurative mark, despite the fact that there is nothing in the text stating that the Mark of the Beast must be physical, it is important to rightly divide the Word of God and study, from the whole of Scripture, the significance of the hand and head and how it often relates to man’s condition in the Biblical text.
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"If you are mad as hell and aren't gonna take it anymore, grab your rifle and head outside. If you're the only one with a rifle screaming like a maniac, go back inside. It isn't time yet."
Good question... Our Creator takes this one very seriously. It is His game, His rules. It is our choice where we choose to fall in.
Revelation 14:9-11
New International Version (NIV)
9 A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand, 10 they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.”
I was thinking about the ways to avoid the mark. So,
1. Could there be "religious" exception?
if not - I think there will be lawyers who would manage your money, like estate management, where they would take in your income and manage your expenses for a fee, then you would not have to buy or sell anything. No?
I'm Pre-Trib, so no worries for me.
I am as well, but many are not, so this does become a vital issue.
Something else... if you TRUELY read the bible in context, EVERY PROPHECY, even those spoken by Yeshua and to John in Revelation, are for the Jew, not the True believer.
Why?
In ancient days, God spoke to his people through the prophets. In the latter days, He speaks to them through His Son.
John 14:26 shows that the WAY is for us to hear and communicate with Yeshua, and hear His voice through the Spirit given to us by God.
If we have the Holy Spirit within us, and it ONLY speaks what He hears from Yeshua, then there is NO NEED for prophets in the new covenant. At least, not prophets in the OLD Covenant sense.
However, since Nicea, the WAY has been lost to church and doctrine. Remember Paul? He was TOLD not by the bible, or by a church 'prophet' that he must go to Jerusalem, but by the Spirit within him.
In fact, EVERY SINGLE other beleiver in the local ecclesia told him out of fear and false hearing NOT to go to Jerusalem because he would be arrested or killed.
But the RELATIONSHIP is individual, not corporate. Our purpose is NOT the purpose of other brothers and sisters, and in the 'church', there is no hearing individual purpose. Only corporate collectivism.
I know there is a rapture NOT because I beleive a specific interpretation from man or the bible, but from asking the Holy Spirit within me for guidance, and hearing his voice.
Thus, I dont need a 'prophet', nor a theologian to try to convince or dissuade what I heard from the SOURCE.
That being said, it is hard to disuss truth of the Kingdom when the church is so full of millions of beliefs and doctrines, all based on WHERE their foundation was laid, and which denomination, parenting, teaching, etc... provided it.
Why is owning pets better than owning kids? Because if they get pregnant, you can sell their children.
The Daily Economist
http://www.thedailyeconomist.com
I am Mid Trib (we will not be taken out of the world until 3 1/2 years of suffering has occurred)
Jesus will return for us at the feast of Rosh hashanah (Sometime between August and September of whatever year he returns).
Rosh Hashanah marks the start of a new year in the Hebrew calendar. In Jewish liturgy Rosh Hashanah is described as "The Day of Judgment".
The Apostle Paul told us to not worry about anything.
- Philippians 4:6-7 “Be anxious for nothing, but in everything through prayer with thanksgiving, let your requests be made know to God”
What should we do instead of worrying?
1. Pray for what you need as well as for what you want.
2. Tell God that you are thankful for what he has already given you.
3. Request from God everything you need for the day, every day.
Libertatem a Calumnia (Freedom from Oppression)
Pre-wrath, myself. I've seen plenty of people go round with reasons why they're pre-trib, mid-trib, or post-trib, and some make sense, and some that make sense even conflict with those that make sense on the other side.
But all I know is that the Bible makes it perfectly clear that we are not appointed to wrath. So before the wrath shows up--whether that's pre-, mid-, or post-trib--I know we're out.