Fisheater, re Post 116, getting back to you.
I see no need to say more than: you present a lot of info, hard to decipher what your point is because you present both sides of the issue, from two different authors.
People must study and decide for themselves. Hopefully the information that has been presented on this thread will provide some help.
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"When Christ uttered the cry, 'It is finished,' he knew that the battle was won. As a moral conqueror, he planted his banner on the eternal heights. Was there not joy among the angels? Not a son nor a daughter of Adam but could now lay hold on the merits of the spotless son of God, and say: 'Christ has died for me. He is my saviour...'" - Ellen G. White.
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