A Lesbian Couple Walks into a Muslim Bakery...

[Terrwyn]

Aaron Klein doesn't sound like a Christian name to me.

[Green Man]

Business as usual. It happens thousands of times a day.

Kosher is the closest to Halal that many Muslims can find. They find it quite acceptable.

[Toes in the sand]

Aaron Klein doesn't sound like a Christian name to me.

My grandparents, many aunts, uncles and cousins are Kleins and all are/were Christians.

[grower]

There are a lot of "Messianic Jews" who accept Jesus as their Messiah. In fact, I know of two Messianic temples in Middle Tennessee. I'm sure there are more, but as I'm not part of a Messianic congregation, I haven't searched them out.

Btw, they did it because they hate Christians. Believe me, I am about to have a daughter-in-law who is -- in my opinion -- on the wrong side of this issue.

[dissimulo]

Let's see if I got this right... Somewhere, Muslims own a bakery. Maybe not anywhere near these people. They went to a nearby bakery owned by Christians, asked to buy a product, and were informed that it is a product that the owners will not make. So, they decided to try to use the force of government to get the bakery to make the product that they want. Bad form; we probably all agree on that.

Now, where do the Muslims come into this? Because the lesbians chose to attempt to patronize a bakery that happened to be owned by someone of the dominant religion in this country, they are doubly bad because they did not intentionally seek out a bakery owned by Muslims to attempt the same shenanigans?

Maybe because they are apparently Muslim markets? This place was named "Sweet Cakes by Melissa," not "Hot Cross Christian Bakery," or suchlike. It sounds like their targeting process involved perhaps going to Google and looking for nearby bakeries, without a thought about the religious beliefs of the baker.

I guess the implication is that they were out crusading in general and not really in the market for a lesbian wedding cake, but I'm guessing that they really just wanted a cake and are unclear about where their rights end and other peoples' rights begin. Many, possibly even the majority of Americans, are guilty of that.

Anyway, it appears that the government has not intervened, so overall things worked as they should. The bakery asserted their rights and beliefs, the potential customers took their concerns to the marketplace, and the marketplace responded. Some of those responses are despicable, but some are supportive. Odds are, over time the controversy will fade and the bakery will continue to be patronized by people who primarily just want baked goods without much thought about the religious beliefs of the people producing them.

I guess the interesting question is whether they would get more or less requests for lesbian wedding cakes if they changed the name of the bakery to indicate that it is a Christian-owned business.

[Faroe]

The article's assumption is that a muslim bakery would have been given a pass, but everyone else needs to get with the collectivist program. Not a totally unreasonable assumption, but I agree, that seems to be only an assumption.

(My comments inserted in blue, below.)

I guess the implication is that they were out crusading in general and not really in the market for a lesbian wedding cake, but I'm guessing that they really just wanted a cake and are unclear about where their rights end and other peoples' rights begin. Many, possibly even the majority of Americans, are guilty of that.

Probably.

I guess the interesting question is whether they would get more or less requests for lesbian wedding cakes if they changed the name of the bakery to indicate that it is a Christian-owned business.

You are implying the owners ought to change the name of the bakery? Why?

[dissimulo]

You are implying the owners ought to change the name of the bakery? Why?

Actually, I'm not. However, I don't think that anyone would go to a halal market for a pork roast, because they are aware that it is a halal market. On the other hand, a bakery with a name that does not indicate any particular set of beliefs may attract people who want non-denominational cakes.

I think the question is interesting because it would immediately reveal whether or not lesbian wedding cake purchasers are crusading or just want a cake. If they changed to a name that indicated their Christianity or even just put up a sign that indicated that and subsequently got more requests for sin-cakes, that would be a pretty clear indication that people are out crusading. If they got less requests, which is what I would expect, that would indicate that people are more likely to patronize bakeries that want their business, so long as they can tell before they walk through the door.

[ejagno]

The name has nothing to do with requests, religion or customers. I grew up in a family owned cake shop named "Shirley's Cake Shop" and we repeatedly had requests for penis cakes, vaginal cakes, boobs, turds and anything else that can cross their disgusting minds. Every privately owned business has the right to refuse service to anyone. This bakery did not promote lesbian cakes and therefore does not have to make them, regardless of their religious beliefs.

[Yoda]

"Every Knee Shall Bow".

That is, the socialists wish to establish a society where government has a monopoly on all authority, and where that authority knows no bounds.

To do this, they must first destroy and displace all existing sources of authority such as:

* the family/parental authority (see Scotland's plans for minders)
* the church, the supreme authority of God over that of Man
* the military, where purges and replacements have occurred and
which is being dithered away in relatively obscure corners of the
globe, killing people and breaking and partially rebuilding things
in particularly creative and expensive ways, all the while eroding
combat readiness and morale. (See Marines/no hot meals, or
Veterans medical care, or PTSD, or Gulf War Syndrome, or Agent
Orange or DU.....).
* noncooperative political forces, such as the visibly co-opted and
politically castrated GOP.
* The Constitution and its limitations on government, which clearly
must be targeted, and has been. (see MIAC report for example).

Once the authority of these institutions has been crippled, that authority will be -or already has been- replaced, by that of the socialists.

Examined from this broad perspective, these seemingly frustrating and bizarre trends and events suddenly focus into disturbing clarity, and one is able to glimpse a view of the intended future, a world illuminated by a dark sun indeed.

To the generations present at the time of the rise of the German Nazi party, these trends seem to be a historical echo of a dark time. One need not recite 'never forget' when the repetition of the events is in the present and in your face.

[Faroe]

Btw, they did it because they hate Christians. Believe me, I am about to have a daughter-in-law who is -- in my opinion -- on the wrong side of this issue.

People change.
In the meantime, you can decide to love her, or just get along with her, but you don't have to like her.