Judge
That's kind of the point.Originally Posted by Cascade Failure
How can we call these men sheeple for complying with this new government law when WE fill out our background check forms compliantly or show our driver's license when we buy ammo, or buy our little concealed carry permits from the state?
AID is required. Not condemnation.
Land Owner
I am one of those being called a sheep here. All we did was register what was already known.
To all the chest thumpers out there...
If, when, this comes to your fine states, the residents will roll over and take it the same way.
Show me one state with NO gun laws. Show me one state where you walk into a gun store and buy a rifle with NO paperwork. Show me ONE state with ACTIVE resistance.
Judge
qft...
nemophilist.
Judge
I'm on your side, CF.
I carry in my wallet still a "Firearm Owner's Identification Card" that I was forced to buy when we lived in Illinois. Was I a sheep for getting it? No. Without it I couldn't so much as buy a brick of ammo or acquire new weapons.
Anybody with a concealed carry permit where the state licensed them to exercise their 2nd amendment right isn't any better.
It's shameful to be backed into that corner and have to comply with these things, but it is what it is until it can be made something different.
Congressman
Lets see, I have your bone here,,yes its next to the dog. But you will have to take it from him,,,,,,forget it,,you might get bit,,would not want that to happen would we.
"On hire from Swiss or Sweden, be me Christain, be me heathen,The Devil to the sabre I shall put"
Tree of Liberty Supporter
Idaho handgun regulations
State Permit to Purchase? No
Firearm registration? No
"Assault weapon" law? No
Magazine Capacity Restriction? No
Owner license required? No
Concealed Carry permits issued? Yes
May carry concealed when outside the confines of a city or city limits
Open Carry? Yes
May carry openly without permit/license.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Galatians 5:22-23
Resident Alley Cat
Yes, I'm feeling pretty free.
Registration will result in confiscation. It has been proven in 3 states already. I wouldn't expect people in the northeast to engage in, or be effective in any speculative insurgency. I consider them and California as pacified zones.
Sorry, but there it is.
Why would I cross the nation to fight for people who won't fight for themselves, and more than likely assist their government in a feeble attempt to curry favor with that government?
Land Owner
Recently watched some documentaries on Waco and Ruby Ridge. The thing that stood out the most was that the people actually being attacked didn't put up a "fight like a viking" defense. This was especially pronounced in the Waco siege when they didn't finish off the ATF agents who were climbing from the windows.
Not going to criticize people who have tanks and the "army" show up, but it did surprise me. Would think if your "compound" is being burned to the ground and holes busted through your walls with a tank turret then you might as well fight to the death or tactical retreat if possible.
Would think if your wife's head is blown off while she's holding a baby her arms and your son was shot in the back, then its game on if at all militarily possible.
Did see alot of protesters at the Ruby Ridge incident, were there that many at Waco? Wonder if they got anything accomplished...
Yes siege defenders will get killed almost all the time, but it will at least show the attackers that these operations will cost them.
And observers who see these events might or might not galvanize around the sieged "martyrs".
My granny grew up in the Soviet Union and describes incidents where people were just taken away in the middle of the night. I asked her why the people didn't resist and she said they were scared silly....
Senator
Ditto that, Captlid.
I researched both incidents you mentioned above and couldn't quite put two and two together.
Talk about restraint, if that's what it was......
Judge
So much for a line in the sand huh?
One could make the excuse that without permits one could not purchase a firearm...unless one goes to a different source other than the mainstream. Think about it, in many ways even now you are what they call a criminal, a nutcase, a domestic terrorist, this is just one more small step. If you comply with an unjust law you are just as guilty as those who make those laws.
To those that went along with this under the guise of "they already knew we had them" well then what was the purpose of it?
We all have the right to keep and bear arms, no matter what "law" has been passed afterward. Stop telling yourself rational lies. Your true enemy depends on it.
“I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.” Barry Goldwater.
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.H. L. Mencken
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