same sex marriage thread

[Miradus]

There are some problems with this though, from a freedom standpoint.

Catholic orphanages have been closed down because they wouldn't allow homosexual couples to adopt their children.

It's one of those "freedom for me but not for you" things that liberals fail at so often. The homosexuals want freedom to marry? Sure. Awesome. You can all be recognized by the state and any insurance companies or employers who wish to do so.

But you can't force someone else to recognize your marriage. That's where your freedom ends.

[Godwit]

There are some problems with this though, from a freedom standpoint.

Catholic orphanages have been closed down because they wouldn't allow homosexual couples to adopt their children.

It's one of those "freedom for me but not for you" things that liberals fail at so often. The homosexuals want freedom to marry? Sure. Awesome. You can all be recognized by the state and any insurance companies or employers who wish to do so.

But you can't force someone else to recognize your marriage. That's where your freedom ends.

Does your logic extend to inter-racial marriages?

[hunybee]

Quick calculation -- the portion of the US population that lives in states which permit same sex marriage is now 44%.

And the remaining states should, per the Constitution, accept marriages made in other states.

uh, actually no. at least 16 of the states listed above had all passed laws that banned it, but federal judges usurped their authority, and legislated from the bench. this is not what the people wanted. it was forced upon them. not quite the same thing

[Godwit]

uh, actually no. at least 16 of the states listed above had all passed laws that banned it, but federal judges usurped their authority, and legislated from the bench. this is not what the people wanted. it was forced upon them. not quite the same thing

.. on the ground that the Constitution preempted certain state laws. This obviously will be a continuing discussion in the courts and among the population. My sense, however, is that both sets of discussions have turned in the direction of allowing marriage among any two adults.

[Miradus]

Does your logic extend to inter-racial marriages?

It has to. Freedom for all or freedom for nobody.

A racist has the same right to refuse service to someone as anyone else.

[philjam]

Pennsylvania did not legalize "gay marriage." On person who is called a judge did that.

[moestooge]

Quick calculation -- the portion of the US population that lives in states which permit same sex marriage is now 44%.

And the remaining states should, per the Constitution, accept marriages made in other states.

Does that mean you support residents of Vermont and Arizona (no permit to carry conceal required) being able to do so in Chicago, New York and Washington, D.C., not to mention anywhere else in America? I'm guessing you prefer to cherrypick on reciprocity.

[FaithfulSkeptic]

It's one of those "freedom for me but not for you" things that liberals fail at so often.

Looks like their succeeding to me.

[BigJim31-8]

Does your logic extend to inter-racial marriages?

What does interracial marriage have to do with this?

People are naturally born into their race,mixed or not.
The homos have made a choice in their "lifestyle."

Seems you believe the lie that homos occur "naturally."

[Lenno]

Looks like their succeeding to me.

Turn that logic upside down, Everything Progressives do is geared to destroy Liberty and install tyranny, it's a genetic disposition towards evil