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    Thanks, HW, I think this will be very useful.
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    Excellent article. Strongly recommend.



    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/09/23..._r=1&referrer=


    FREETOWN, Sierra Leone — The gravedigger hacked at the cemetery’s dense undergrowth, clearing space for the day’s Ebola victims. A burial team, in protective suits torn with gaping holes, arrived with fresh bodies.


    The backs of the battered secondhand vans carrying the dead were closed with twisted, rusting wire. Bodies were dumped in new graves, and a worker in a short-sleeve shirt carried away the stretcher, wearing only plastic bags over his hands as protection. The outlook for the day at King Tom Cemetery was busy.


    “We will need much more space,” said James C. O. Hamilton, the chief gravedigger, as a colleague cleared the bush with his machete.


    The Ebola epidemic is spreading rapidly in Sierra Leone’s densely packed capital — and it may already be far worse than the authorities acknowledge.

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    Much more at link. If the story at the link is true, Ebola is going to explode beyond any control IMHO. Pigs, stormwater run off, slums, plastic bags in place of gloves. This thing is a clusterf....
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    Switzerland: Suspected Ebola case in Lausanne

    SEP 23, 2014 - 19:17
    http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/suspecte...sanne/40796430

    A young man from Guinea who entered Switzerland on September 17 via the asylum reception centre in Vallorbe, canton Vaud, was admitted to the Lausanne University Hospital on Tuesday under suspicion of infection with the Ebola virus.

    The man, who had left Guinea for France two days earlier, had been quarantined in a hospital in Vaud following his arrival, after he told officials at the asylum centre that a member of his family had died of Ebola.
    In his first week in the hospital he showed no symptoms and was thus not contagious, according to a press release from the Swiss Federal Office of Public Health. One week after arrival he developed a fever and was transferred to Lausanne according to the criteria set out by the Public Health Office.

    Blood samples have been taken and the Public Health Office said it would keep the public informed as further details become available.
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    In his first week in the hospital he showed no symptoms and was thus not contagious, according to a press release from the Swiss Federal Office of Public Health.
    THEY HOPE!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homesteader View Post
    Excellent article. Strongly recommend.



    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/09/23..._r=1&referrer=


    FREETOWN, Sierra Leone — The gravedigger hacked at the cemetery’s dense undergrowth, clearing space for the day’s Ebola victims. A burial team, in protective suits torn with gaping holes, arrived with fresh bodies.


    The backs of the battered secondhand vans carrying the dead were closed with twisted, rusting wire. Bodies were dumped in new graves, and a worker in a short-sleeve shirt carried away the stretcher, wearing only plastic bags over his hands as protection. The outlook for the day at King Tom Cemetery was busy.


    “We will need much more space,” said James C. O. Hamilton, the chief gravedigger, as a colleague cleared the bush with his machete.


    The Ebola epidemic is spreading rapidly in Sierra Leone’s densely packed capital — and it may already be far worse than the authorities acknowledge.

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    Much more at link. If the story at the link is true, Ebola is going to explode beyond any control IMHO. Pigs, stormwater run off, slums, plastic bags in place of gloves. This thing is a clusterf....
    This may sound heartless, but this is beyond the point of being able to bury the dead.

    The corpses need to be BURNED. Period.

    That is the only way to get a possible handle on this nightmare scenario.

    They did it during the Plague years, need to do it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmthomas View Post
    This may sound heartless, but this is beyond the point of being able to bury the dead.

    The corpses need to be BURNED. Period.

    That is the only way to get a possible handle on this nightmare scenario.

    They did it during the Plague years, need to do it now.
    Yeah, I was surprised to hear how the corpses were handled. No protocol, no rules, no containment.
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    It takes a lot of fuel to burn a corpse to ashes. I've had to do it (livestock) - it's not a pretty picture when the fire dies out and the body is only 1/2 burned.

    Do you think that people who don't have food to feed to their people in the hospital or gloves for their healthcare workers, are going to have a cord of dried hard wood lying around for every dead body?

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    Quote Originally Posted by naturallysweet View Post
    It takes a lot of fuel to burn a corpse to ashes. I've had to do it (livestock) - it's not a pretty picture when the fire dies out and the body is only 1/2 burned.

    Do you think that people who don't have food to feed to their people in the hospital or gloves for their healthcare workers, are going to have a cord of dried hard wood lying around for every dead body?
    Never said they had to be burned to ashes. Just enough to kill the virus is what is needed.

    I guess I should have qualified my statement better. The world governments need to pull their collective heads out of the sand and deal with this, instead of wasting all our resources pointing weapons at each other.

    "Wildfire" protocols need to be activated. Massive concentrated effort by all countries, since left unchecked, this will eventually affect all countries.

    There are plenty of resources available to contain this, if there was the will to face it honestly.

    Instead what you have if every government and politician playing CYA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naturallysweet View Post
    It takes a lot of fuel to burn a corpse to ashes. I've had to do it (livestock) - it's not a pretty picture when the fire dies out and the body is only 1/2 burned.

    Do you think that people who don't have food to feed to their people in the hospital or gloves for their healthcare workers, are going to have a cord of dried hard wood lying around for every dead body?
    Ii takes skill and time to burn a corpse, animal or human. An uncooked leg or arm or head can carry the virus.
    Agreed, it is time consuming and expensive to burn the corpses, but, done it quantity, there will be efficiencies of scale.
    Perhaps Mr. Obama can send over more American military volunteers to do the training.
    This policy would be applauded by Liberals and Putinists.
    People, even the slavish Media puppets, are starting to realize there is no 'good' answer to an Ebola Pandemic.
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    Ian M Mackay, PhD ‏@MackayIM 1m
    The Control Gap. A way 2 look at whether control has been lost during an outbreak? #Ebola
    http://virologydownunder.blogspot.com.au/2014/09/the-control-gap.html …



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