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  1. 10-28-2015, 11:24 AM #1
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    Default Amish man sues for right to buy gun without photo ID

    An Amish Pennsylvania man who wants to buy a gun says the photo ID required to do so violates his religious beliefs.

    Andrew Hertzler, whose Amish faith prevents him from being photographed, is suing the federal government claiming that the photo identification needed to purchase a weapon violates both his religious freedom and his constitutional right to bear arms.

    Hertzler, of Lancaster County, said he tried to buy a gun in June for self-defense, but the dealer turned him down. His state-issued ID lacked a photo, and was not enough identification, according to the lawsuit.

    “Mr. Hertzler confronts Hobson’s choice: either forego his constitutional right to keep and bear arms in defense of himself and his home, or violate his religion,” a*copy of the lawsuit suit obtained by the Washington Post read.

    Amish man challenges photo ID requirement to buy firearm

    Amish faith forbids worshipers from having their pictures taken for any reason, citing the Biblical passage Exodus 20:4: “You shall not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.”

    The lawsuit, filed in the U.S. Middle District Court, names a slew of defendants: the federal government, U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch, FBI Director James B. Comey and officials from the Bureau of Alcohol, Firearms and Explosives.
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  2. 10-28-2015, 11:51 AM #2
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    A true Bubba Push Back!
    They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
    “As a general rule, the earlier you recognize someone is trying to kill you, the better off you’ll be.”
    "You think a wall as solid as the earth separates civilisation from barbarism. I tell you the division is a sheet of glass."

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    Wrong skin color and wrong religion...
    “Blessed are those who, in the face of death, think only about the front sight.” Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem
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    not suing for right to buy a gun.... but to protect his God-given right.
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    interesting case
    many amish do not have a ss#,they are not subject to the same law that most are.



    A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years.



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    He'll lose in court.
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    Poor reading comprehension. Read the verse before and after. It has nothing to do with images of men.
    Ex. 20,3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
    Ex. 20,4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
    Ex. 20,5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them:. . .
    It's all about gods
    2Tim. 3:1 ¶ But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come.
    2Tim. 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires;
    2Tim. 4:4 and will turn away their ears from the truth, and will turn aside to myths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argonaut View Post
    Poor reading comprehension. Read the verse before and after. It has nothing to do with images of men.

    It's all about gods
    His argument though is, no one has the right to deny him a God-given right because they disagree with his beliefs.
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    Maybe he needs to prove he has a god given right to bear arms.
    2Tim. 3:1 ¶ But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come.
    2Tim. 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires;
    2Tim. 4:4 and will turn away their ears from the truth, and will turn aside to myths.
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    Sometimes it's the journey, not the destination
    They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
    “As a general rule, the earlier you recognize someone is trying to kill you, the better off you’ll be.”
    "You think a wall as solid as the earth separates civilisation from barbarism. I tell you the division is a sheet of glass."

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