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    Reason why Hammonds are in jail?
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    Ranchers, farmers and others in Malheur County are opposing a proposal to designate 40 percent of the Eastern Oregon county as a national monument or wilderness area.


    ONTARIO, Ore. — An effort by conservation groups to have a large chunk of Malheur County set aside as a national monument or wilderness area has riled up ranchers and farmers in the area.

    They have joined forces with a group of concerned citizens and elected officials who are fighting the Owyhee Canyonlands Conservation Proposal, which would encompass 2.5 million acres.

    Malheur County Cattlemen’s Association President Chris Christensen said locking up that much area would eliminate a large amount of grazing land and devastate Oregon’s No. 1 cattle producing county.

    “If this thing comes to pass, it would have a devastating effect on the ranching community and agriculture in Malheur County,” he said. “Anybody involved in agriculture in Malheur County isn’t going to be in favor of this thing.”

    Christensen said a large chunk of that 2.5 million acres is grazed.

    According to Sergio Arispe, a livestock and rangeland agent at Oregon State University’s Malheur County Extension office, locking up that much land would eliminate about 33 percent of the county’s total grazing land.

    A monument designation “would destroy the community and the business of agriculture as it’s being done in this area right now,” Christensen said.

    Oregon Natural Desert Association, which is leading the monument effort, says it would protect 2.5 million acres of wild lands and hundreds of miles of wild and scenic rivers. According to the group’s web site, the proposal would “allow working farms and ranches to continue to operate.”

    But Jordan Valley rancher Bob Skinner, former president of the Oregon Cattlemen’s Association, said area residents believe the opposite would happen.

    The majority of that 2.5 million acres is grazed, he said.

    “There are cattle everywhere out there,” Skinner said. “If you take cattle out of (this) economy, you have decimated the economy. It would change our way of life. Not only farmers and ranchers, but everybody around here is up in arms about it.”

    Malheur County Soil and Water Conservation District Manager Linda Rowe, who opposes the monument proposal, said that 2.5 million acres would equal 43 percent of the county.

    If the county’s economically vital cattle industry was devastated by it, a lot of hay, corn and other grains wouldn’t be grown here, she said.

    “It would impact agriculture in Malheur County as a whole,” Rowe said.

    Local elected officials and members of Oregon’s congressional delegation are holding a town hall meeting on the issue from 6:30-8:30 p.m. Oct. 29 in the Adrian High School gymnasium.

    ONDA and other regional and national conservation groups and businesses are gathering signatures to back their effort. According to ONDA’s web site, “a variety of legislative and administrative options (are) being considered to permanently protect this place.”

    According to a news release from Rep. Cliff Bentz, R-Ontario, it is anticipated the groups are planning to ask President Barack Obama to use his power under the Antiquities Act to designate the land as a national monument, wilderness area or national conservation area.
    http://www.capitalpress.com/Oregon/2...nt-designation

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    Oregon standoff Day 35: What you need to know Friday

    As we enter Day 35 of the standoff at Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, here are the latest developments:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-sta...what_yo_1.html

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    This event happening in eastern Oregon is bigger than either the Hammonds or the Bundys.
    The rejailing of the Hammonds was just the trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho Bullwinkle View Post
    This event happening in eastern Oregon is bigger than either the Hammonds or the Bundys.
    The rejailing of the Hammonds was just the trigger.

    Exactly!

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    Malheur Refuge Occupation Day 40: 4 Things To Know

    http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns...ounty-malheur/

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    Exclusive: Oregon occupiers warn authorities of booby traps at refuge

    Armed protesters who ended their 41-day standoff on Thursday at a wildlife refuge in Oregon told federal authorities they left behind booby traps but did not say whether the trip wires and other devices would trigger explosions, a law enforcement official told Reuters.

    "They spoke to us about booby traps. We don't know how sophisticated or what kind," said the official, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

    Materials to create explosives could be found on the refuge, the official said, because workers there previously performed controlled burns of the land.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-or...-idUSKCN0VL057

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godwit View Post
    ... told federal authorities they left behind booby traps .... said the official, speaking on the condition of anonymity.
    ... sure they did.

    O.W.


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    The FBI has found "a trench of human feces" on or near a Native American burial ground at the federal wildlife refuge in Oregon that armed militia members had occupied for more than a month -- http://www.reuters.com/article/us-or...-idUSKCN0VQ09S

    U.S. Attorney Billy Williams wrote that investigators, who started processing the crime scene two days after the standoff ended, found "significant amounts of human feces" in a trench "either on or next to a 'sensitive cultural site'" at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Burns.

    "Occupiers appear to have excavated two large trenches and an improvised road on or adjacent to grounds containing sensitive artifacts," Williams wrote in the filing, as quoted by Reuters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godwit View Post
    The FBI has found "a trench of human feces" on or near a Native American burial ground at the federal wildlife refuge in Oregon that armed militia members had occupied for more than a month -- http://www.reuters.com/article/us-or...-idUSKCN0VQ09S

    U.S. Attorney Billy Williams wrote that investigators, who started processing the crime scene two days after the standoff ended, found "significant amounts of human feces" in a trench "either on or next to a 'sensitive cultural site'" at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Burns.

    "Occupiers appear to have excavated two large trenches and an improvised road on or adjacent to grounds containing sensitive artifacts," Williams wrote in the filing, as quoted by Reuters.
    It was a fairly long-term encampment in a rural/semi-rural setting. Duh. The occupiers pooped! The horror! The HORROR!
    "See, in the last few years...we've stumbled... And when you stumble a lot, you...you start looking at your feet. We have to make people...lift their eyes back to the horizon and see the line of ancestors behind us saying, 'Make my life have meaning.' And to our inheritors before us saying, 'Create the world we will live in.' I mean, we're not just holding jobs and having dinner. We are in the process of building the future."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godwit View Post

    "Occupiers appear to have excavated two large trenches and an improvised road on or adjacent to grounds containing sensitive artifacts," Williams wrote in the filing, as quoted by Reuters.
    Adjacent equals next to, not on. Boy they sure like to twist words don't they? They are trying to make it sound like they destroyed "artifacts" when they didn't. I bet there are no artifacts there. Heck where I live you can walk anywhere and say that. There are arrowheads everywhere.

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