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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles View Post
    Facts in evidence demonstrate the "growth" in GDP this quarter was essentially significantly increased (deficit) government spending.
    Call it what you want, but its not "growth", its debt.


    There was a a federal surplus of $33.4 billion in September

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyM View Post
    There was a a federal surplus of $33.4 billion in September
    Federal government has not run a surplus in my lifetime...keep dreaming goofy
    Tread carefully when walking on others freedoms because yours are on the same path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyM View Post
    There was a a federal surplus of $33.4 billion in September
    Quote Originally Posted by GopherInTN View Post
    Federal government has not run a surplus in my lifetime...keep dreaming goofy
    For September 2016, see http://mam.econoday.com/byshoweventf...v=/bymonth.asp

    Under President Clinton, we did have full year surpluses for at least two years, around 1997-1999.

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    Wow what a lie. How do you dare post bs like that on this board? And if you think that is the truth you better provide a Reliable Source to back that bs up. Fess up or shut up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoppalong View Post
    Wow what a lie. How do you dare post bs like that on this board? And if you think that is the truth you better provide a Reliable Source to back that bs up. Fess up or shut up.
    From http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the...under-clinton/

    "This chart, based on historical figures from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, shows the total
    deficit or surplus for each fiscal year from 1990 through 2006. Keep in
    mind that fiscal years begin Oct. 1, so the first year that can be
    counted as a Clinton year is fiscal 1994. The appropriations bills for
    fiscal years 1990 through 1993 were signed by Bill Clinton’s
    predecessor, George H.W. Bush. Fiscal 2002 is the first for which
    President George W. Bush signed the appropriations bills, and the first
    to show the effect of his tax cuts."


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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyM View Post
    From http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the...under-clinton/

    "This chart, based on historical figures from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, shows the total
    deficit or surplus for each fiscal year from 1990 through 2006. Keep in
    mind that fiscal years begin Oct. 1, so the first year that can be
    counted as a Clinton year is fiscal 1994. The appropriations bills for
    fiscal years 1990 through 1993 were signed by Bill Clinton’s
    predecessor, George H.W. Bush. Fiscal 2002 is the first for which
    President George W. Bush signed the appropriations bills, and the first
    to show the effect of his tax cuts."


    TonyM(Dimwit)

    Following is the National Debt, mostly by month for the Clinton years.
    Where, other than the year 2000, did the national debt go down?
    (Reduction of the national debt is the ONLY way to TRUTHFULLY see the Deficit/surplus)

    1990 09 143233.31345177725
    1991 09 43366530335169703
    1992 09 774064.62065552166
    1993 01 654167.20041089983
    1993 02 944197.00380179483
    1993 03 674230.57991610067
    1993 04 98425408417063601
    1993 05 48429627801461243
    1993 06 67435195033383476
    1993 07 77435026084510030
    1993 08 724403.24704617058
    1993 09 434411.48888313938
    1993 10 31442251144643779
    1993 11 54493.53502346835
    1993 12 594535.68705440614
    1994 01 444526.30755326704
    1994 02 14455954070280573
    1994 03 94575.86922891628
    1994 04 50456870350804736
    1994 05 70460929621202138
    1994 06 65464580189817758
    1994 07 694636.36177840062
    1994 08 554691.99136087349
    1994 09 664692.74991001332
    1994 10 60473416749460492
    1994 11 92477852035739726
    1994 12 14480014994614375
    1995 01 04815.82674580215
    1995 02 994854.29785059037
    1995 03 11486411584125692
    1995 04 89485232735009660
    1995 05 674903.92597876393
    1995 06 7495137209207913
    1995 07 814960.15165314255
    1995 08 68497075567906021
    1995 09 85497398290070939
    1995 10 35498526211002106
    1995 11 844989.32992664431
    1995 12 644988.66497901454
    1996 01 04987.43635816520
    1996 02 58501604070325502
    1996 03 27511778636601456
    1996 04 155102.04882723422
    1996 05 79512850850489280
    1996 06 775161.07568814093
    1996 07 415188.88862592587
    1996 08 83520830343941793
    1996 09 185224.81093913573
    1996 10 175247.31961759991
    1996 11 845296.54892314363
    1996 12 57532317175078319
    1997 01 35531579597148001
    1997 02 28534993736094268
    1997 03 375380.88985739159
    1997 04 50535397131443939
    1997 05 75534496136226683
    1997 06 875376.15125287602
    1997 07 65373.22856047427
    1997 08 99540442029488551
    1997 09 6541314601139734
    1997 10 92542722518505966
    1997 11 23546262155783757
    1997 12 675502.38801237595
    1998 01 235490.06423507964
    1998 02 705520.66831846551
    1998 03 455542.42576860591
    1998 04 42549989455951394
    1998 05 455506.35579743519
    1998 06 715547.93474355981
    1998 07 53552773822110141
    1998 08 38556455347947804
    1998 09 165526.19300889762
    1998 10 70555925463439844
    1998 11 545591.97934824972
    1998 12 91561421702119587
    1999 01 5561011709767895
    1999 02 685621.94551352800
    1999 03 80565161528928487
    1999 04 655585.83985017161
    1999 05 75604.19805552611
    1999 06 915638.78024833454
    1999 07 87563865571193160
    1999 08 48567238616753041
    1999 09 40565627090163343
    1999 10 87567972666290406
    1999 11 575702.01005676620
    1999 12 53577609131422533
    2000 01 48571128516895146
    2000 02 345735.33334813258
    2000 03 96577339163468291
    2000 04 17568510822859476
    2000 05 25647.16988853225
    2000 06 315685.93808729666
    2000 07 375658.80744990668
    2000 08 3567782230707783
    2000 09 945674.17820988686
    2000 10 4565732753166714
    2000 11 35570969928142700
    2000 12 0566221601369737

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyM View Post
    For September 2016, see http://mam.econoday.com/byshoweventf...v=/bymonth.asp

    Under President Clinton, we did have full year surpluses for at least two years, around 1997-1999.
    Clinton NEVER ran a surplus...not a single time. Check the .gov website...not that crap
    Tread carefully when walking on others freedoms because yours are on the same path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUnut View Post
    TonyM(Dimwit)

    Following is the National Debt, mostly by month for the Clinton years.
    Where, other than the year 2000, did the national debt go down?
    (Reduction of the national debt is the ONLY way to TRUTHFULLY see the Deficit/surplus)
    Your numbers do not include the Social Security surplus that accumulated during the Clinton years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyM View Post
    Your numbers do not include the Social Security surplus that accumulated during the Clinton years.
    There was NO surplus.....social security was spent as easily as the rest...even out of a so-called lockbox...you are a lummox qtip
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyM View Post
    Your numbers do not include the Social Security surplus that accumulated during the Clinton years.
    Social security surplus? Heheheh ... yeah.

    I want to personally thank you for taking the time to present your basic "government economics 101" thread.

    Mildly amusing to say the least.

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