Arctic

[Oscar Wilde]

I would start with what Secretary of State designate Tillerson recently said in support of a carbon tax --

Addressing these risks requires broad-based, practical solutions

.... We have long supported a carbon tax as the best policy of those being considered. Replacing the hodge-podge of current, largely ineffective regulations with a revenue-neutral carbon tax would ensure a uniform and predictable cost of carbon across the economy. It would allow market forces to drive solutions. It would maximize transparency, reduce administrative complexity, promote global participation and easily adjust to future developments in our understanding of climate science as well as the policy consequences of these actions.

Babbling bull$h!t ... I see a theme but no specific problem identified accompanied by no solution(s) provided. Gotta have one to have the other ....

Now I would offer that if there is to be any effort expended in any meaningful manner in regards to our environment, the concern be directed to the quality of our air, our water, our soil. As to temperatures, "science" has shown the earth to have experienced extremes that are cyclical and critters have either adapted or not and those that have, we run over with our vehicles or shoot for fun.

Future development of understanding? Seriously?

Climate science has been a "study" since man experienced the first raindrop, the first gust of wind. It's how "we've" come to dedicating 30 minutes or better of animated bobblehead babbling to describe an environmental condition in which anyone with any sense can determine for themselves in about 30 seconds or less.

Climate science? Using natural phenomena to spook the sheep by exploiting their apathy and ignorance.

O.W.

[TonyM]

Spooky account of Alaska's wildlife coroner--and the diseases that climate change is helping spread across the north

https://www.outsideonline.com/214319...thern-oddities

[Lenno]

My current conditions are -10F and your telling me it's warmer in the artic? Like to expand on that BS?

[TonyM]

My current conditions are -10F and your telling me it's warmer in the artic? Like to expand on that BS?

It currently is +21 in Barrow, in Alaska on the Arctic Sea

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick...8#.WG2pYVwg3U4

[Lenno]

There are PPL driving snow mobiles past my house Tony, snow mobiles! How's that possible if the artic is melting?

[Farp]

It's 6 below where I am, and the weatherman said the cold air came into the state from Canada. Yellowknife is about the same. Either way, it's below freezing and making ice.

Anyway, we should see the arctic getting colder next week. I froze two gallons of water in milk jugs and sent them to Santa Claus just this morning. If that doesn't work, I'll send two more next week. If we need any more than that, I'm going to need help with the postage!

[Lenno]

It's 6 below where I am, and the weatherman said the cold air came into the state from Canada. Yellowknife is about the same. Either way, it's below freezing and making ice.

Anyway, we should see the arctic getting colder next week. I froze two gallons of water in milk jugs and sent them to Santa Claus just this morning. If that doesn't work, I'll send two more next week. If we need any more than that, I'm going to need help with the postage!

My beer froze :)

[TonyM]

Incessant mild Arctic weather continues. Almost 0°C over Central Canada, that's 15°C above average. Still very warm near Northpole, too.

[Lenno]

After Katrina we were told that Hurricanes would be more frequent and stronger than ever so why have the succeeding eleven years been some of the mildest on record.

This article shows that the average temperature in 1934 in the U.S. was 55.1 degrees.
Average temperature in 2015 was 54.4 degrees in the U.S.

Whatever the actual temperature is there is very little movement in the last eighty years despite massive industrialization, population growth, fossil fuel use and CO2 increases.

We have been treated to alternative facts by scientists such as Michael Mann, as they have continually manipulated data because actual data haven’t supported their computer model predictions. The media have been willing to continually repeat these alternative facts as they call climate change caused by humans “settled science.”

[TonyM]

This article shows that the average temperature in 1934 in the U.S. was 55.1 degrees.
Average temperature in 2015 was 54.4 degrees in the U.S.

From Lenno's source, which was published in 2013 (before the more recent record breaking years) --

The year 1934 was a very hot year in the United States, ranking fourth behind 2012, 2006, and 1998. However, global warming takes into account temperatures over the entire planet. The U.S.'s land area accounts for only 2% of the earth's total surface area. Despite the U.S. heat in 1934, the year was not so hot over the rest of the planet, and is barely holding onto a place in the hottest 50 years in the global rankings (today it ranks 49th).

Climate change skeptics like to point to 1934 in the U.S. as proof that recent hot years are not unusual. However, this is another example of "cherry-picking" a single fact that supports a claim, while ignoring the rest of the data. Globally, the ten hottest years on record have all occurred since 1998, with 2005 and 2010 as the hottest.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/193...-on-record.htm