Quote Originally Posted by dmatic
Thanks, Cary, for starting this thread. I have been busy so have not had time to respond. There are a couple of references in this thread referring to me not answering or trying to ignore something, so I will try to address that concern first, before responding to the topic of this thread. In past discussions with forty9er and others the terms "forever and ever" had been discussed. Have you investigated the meanings of aion, aionian, and aionios in the Greek? These words do not always mean what the English translators imply, though many assume they do. There are examples of God using the Hebrew equivalent, olam, translated as 'forever' by the English translators, when it is clear that that is not what God meant. "Forever" is a time, not defined in length, but not endless, though some still hold that it may mean endless. Aionios is an adjective that may define what is happening in that "age", or aion. We have terms that more closely fit what is being described, like the stone 'age', the dark 'ages', the industrial 'age', etc. which describe what is going on in that 'aion'.
So since the same word is used in the lake of fire description of forever, and in terms used of God's duration, they both will have an end. Really, is that what you are saying, God's time, God's duration, the kingdom of Jesus will have an end? Since the word aion appears in both places. You can do a search of G165.

I might add you didn't answer the question in the other thread either because I quoted several verses in the other thread, as the sentence above, that you didn't reply to there (post #45) and haven't replied to here either. And I made the same case over there. What you have put up here isn't a reply. And if you need me to I can put up those verses again. After all I am the copy and paste king.

And this:

So, what is this "lake of fire"? This 'second death'? Is it a good thing or a bad thing? Depends. Is there resurrection from the second death? Or, does this second death reign supreme? What is the last enemy to be destroyed? It is death, according to Paul, I think in 1 Cor. 15. Does this include the second death, too? If not, why not?
This is called waffling, or maybe jibberish.