Who is your God?

[Wiskey Reb]

So anyway, this website of his claims that Judean Jews are not really Jews, or rather, are Jews but not Israel, because of their interbreeding, and Jesus was not a Jew. But the lost tribes really are Jews... OR NO, NOT jews, but really Israel. Yet, Paul called himself a Jew from tne stock of Israel, which should be impossible (maybe he was really a snake, or had been lucky enough to keep his genes clean, as if he'd be able to know, maybe his family record had been cleansed). And yet, we see from scripture itself, which I posted above, that Israel had, early on, entered into widwspread intermarriage with the Canaanite nations as well as the mixed multitude which that followed them out of Egypt. And yet, somehow, according to these people, David's and Solomon's lineage remained pure as the driven snow. Then also, miraculously, by the first century, the bloodlines of the ten northern tribes in diaspora had become cleansed of all the intermarriage of their ancestors. So much so, that they were real Jews...or, er real Israelites, but the Judean Jews were not. This bs doesn't hold together no matter how thick you slice it.

[grampster]

OK. I'm no scholar but if the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob SPOKE the universe the earth and all in it, on it and around it into existence, He certainly could make sure everything He wanted to occur to occur without the maunderings of the sentient bipeds He created having any insight other than what He might inspire them to have.

[Wiskey Reb]

OK. I'm no scholar but if the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob SPOKE the universe the earth and all in it, on it and around it into existence, He certainly could make sure everything He wanted to occur to occur without the maunderings of the sentient bipeds He created having any insight other than what He might inspire them to have.

I don't make any claim to being a scholar either, Grampster, but it's not hard for me to see that making eternal status an issue of race is a very big problem....one that I will vehemently oppose.

[arrowcreek]

I post many different articles here on TTOL, some videos and commentaries in order to encourage, edify and exhort you to read your own bible and pray for the Holy Spirit to teach you in all things.

You must not take what I say as " thus say the Lord " nor do I take what you say as being like wise, again do your own bible research, you must pray that you will not be deceived in these last days as many will follow false doctrines.

Non of us interpret Gods word the same, that's what makes it so interesting, we never get bored, because we learn from each other as we research our bible for the Holy Spirit truth. We learn a little bit here and little bit there, never do we have the full understanding of Gods word because the real answer will come when we meet our Savior face to face.

What I believe to be the truth is:

The bible is the inerrant Word of God. Yahusha is God's Son [ Yahusha is God ] The Holy Spirit will teach you in all things. We must pray for the peace of Jerusalem. I am a follower of Jesus Christ / Yahusha only. I do not belong to any denomination, or except any church doctrine that does not go along with my KJV of the bible.

The bible is free of error in all it's teachings and the word of Yhwh / God. The Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, He shall teach you all things. John 14:26 KJV

With that say some of you think me as a Wolf in Sheep clothing because of my writings and I must except your comments and scripture as the truth, again I say you do your own research and I will do mine.

If your a Born Again Believer washed in the Blood of Yahusha/Jesus the Messiah our Savior you can't be part this deception. John 3:16. Be very careful who you call a Wolf in Sheep clothing. We will be held accountable for what we say about our brethren and sisters in the Lord.

I love you all here on TTOL
God Bless

[Wiskey Reb]

Arrowcreek, while I don't call you a wolf, I wonder if you are truly aware of the lives that have been snuffed out by people who hold to doctrines such as yours. So, I have to ask you some questions. Do you agree with the past policies of killing or persecuting of followers of Judaism? Do you hate Jews? Are Jews fully human? Was/is Jesus a Jew? Is genetic purity an essential for any level of acceptability of a believer before G-d? Are rabbinic Jews the spawn of satan? Are you aware that thousands of Jews have been killed in the name of racial impurity and perceptions of sub-humanity?

[CaryC]

I find it quite interesting arrowcreek, that you say you came out of the RCC, then went to Dallas Theological Seminary, which is a non-denominational Seminary, although has a lot of Baptist graduates, generically, but you speak as if you are a White Supremacist, Word of Faith, Flat Earther.

I say that because this phrase right here:

Be very careful who you call a Wolf in Sheep clothing. We will be held accountable for what we say about our brethren and sisters in the Lord.

Is a ploy, along with "say it with your mouth", that the leaders of Word of Faith use to divert criticism from their teaching. It goes more like this though: "Touch not the Lord's anointed." It is meant to mean they are anointed of the Lord, therefore be careful what you say, criticize about their teaching.

A couple of things should be noted.

1) having gone to DTS did you graduate?
2) I haven't found where the Lord said this about his prophets, or King's as a blanket statement to the people of the world about those prophets, or Kings. In fact the opposite has been true. Isaiah was cut in half, Jeremiah spent some time in jail, sent there by the king, all the New Testament guys were martyred in horrible ways. It was only the false prophets that lived in luxury, and no evil could be spoke of, note Daniel. Take note of that. Hebrews 11 is full of them. Men and women who the world was not worthy of. And less we forget the real anointed One was nailed to a Cross and died.

And concerning the Christian community we are to inspect the fruit, and yours appears rotten.

3) Below you will find every reference in the KJV concerning a search of the "Lord's anointed". You will notice that every reference is concerning King Saul. An individual who "evil spirits" would come upon from time to time. Was elected by the people, and not God. However, God let the people have their way. And was in fact a usurper of the Divine Will. Except for the last one which is a reference to David.

4) you should also notice that in Jesus' day the High Priest, scribes and Pharisees were, or could have been considered, by the people, the Lord's anointed because of the positions they held. Notice it was Jesus who called them open graves full of dead men's bones.

5)Even Paul called out Peter, when he did wrong.

The references I spoke of:

1Sa_24:6 And he said unto his men, The LORD forbid that I should do this thing unto my master, the LORD'S anointed, to stretch forth mine hand against him, seeing he is the anointed of the LORD.
1Sa_24:10 Behold, this day thine eyes have seen how that the LORD had delivered thee to day into mine hand in the cave: and some bade me kill thee: but mine eye spared thee; and I said, I will not put forth mine hand against my lord; for he is the LORD'S anointed.
1Sa_26:9 And David said to Abishai, Destroy him not: for who can stretch forth his hand against the LORD'S anointed, and be guiltless?
1Sa_26:11 The LORD forbid that I should stretch forth mine hand against the LORD'S anointed: but, I pray thee, take thou now the spear that is at his bolster, and the cruse of water, and let us go.
1Sa_26:16 This thing is not good that thou hast done. As the LORD liveth, ye are worthy to die, because ye have not kept your master, the LORD'S anointed. And now see where the king's spear is, and the cruse of water that was at his bolster.
1Sa_26:23 The LORD render to every man his righteousness and his faithfulness: for the LORD delivered thee into my hand to day, but I would not stretch forth mine hand against the LORD'S anointed.
2Sa_1:14 And David said unto him, How wast thou not afraid to stretch forth thine hand to destroy the LORD'S anointed?
2Sa_1:16 And David said unto him, Thy blood be upon thy head; for thy mouth hath testified against thee, saying, I have slain the LORD'S anointed.
2Sa_19:21 But Abishai the son of Zeruiah answered and said, Shall not Shimei be put to death for this, because he cursed the LORD'S anointed?

[dmatic]

Thanks, Wiskey, for this: "...restoring all the world to the worship and conformation to the character of the One true G-d." Indeed! The ministry of reconciliation. May it come to pass and may His will be done and His kingdom come! We must remember that even the "CI" people need to have the true gospel 'preached' to them. Appreciate "all y'all's" efforts.

[Wiskey Reb]

Thanks, Wiskey, for this: "...restoring all the world to the worship and conformation to the character of the One true G-d." Indeed! The ministry of reconciliation. May it come to pass and may His will be done and His kingdom come! We must remember that even the "CI" people need to have the true gospel 'preached' to them. Appreciate "all y'all's" efforts.

Arrowcreek is not in an unredeemable position. His positions take a historic, first century truth(that there were certain "Jews" who were neither native born, nor voluntarily converted, nor following Judaism, who were among those who plotted Jesus death), and wrap a shroud of darkness around it by extrapolating that all the way back to the Patriarchs and to the garden. Then it get's propped up by a fairy tale of magical powers of animals and angels to mate with humans. So they take something that is ridiculous to consider now and make it somehow plausible by distancing it with thousands of years of seperation and the mystical feel of the creation and patriarchal accounts. Rather than looking at other scenarios which have a better llikelihood of plausibility, it jumps to mysticism (the woo woo kind) and magical scenarios to account for their preferred conclusion. All Arrowcreek needs to do is drop the subjective parts with which he fills in the blanks, and he can arrive at something sustainable. But that will generate another problem. Then he'll have to face his own internal emotional biases, cast them aside and go hug a Jew. That will be the biggest challenge. Not the text itself, but the internal struggle with his biases.

The Holy One said of Abraham and his descendants, " Those who bless you will be blessed, and those who curse you will be cursed". Arrowcreek warns against speaking against a believer, yet does he heed his own advice regarding the Jewish people?

[Forty9er]

Be very careful who you call a Wolf in Sheep clothing. We will be held accountable for what we say about our brethren and sisters in the Lord.

Your OP was taken from an internet site which has what they call the "Mein Kampf Project" and if you didn't know and couldn't guess what that is let me explain it to you. The objective of that "project" is to glorify Adolf Hitler and everything he did. It also says "Adolf Hitler was a good Christian man".

Is that what you believe? Do you consider him one of your "brothers" in the Lord?

[Wiskey Reb]

Your OP was taken from an internet site which has what they call the "Mein Kampf Project" and if you didn't know and couldn't guess what that is let me explain it to you. The objective of that "project" is to glorify Adolf Hitler and everything he did. It also says "Adolf Hitler was a good Christian man".

Is that what you believe? Do you consider him one of your "brothers" in the Lord?

It's amazing, but the number of Hitler defending groups is really increasing. What's worse is how many mainstream people are buying into those arguements. A whole internet battle is being waged by those attempting to debunk the holocaust, and others debunking the debunkers.

Funny how no one defends all the other mass murdering tyrrants of modern history, but the one who did it to the Jews gets to be a good Christian and a hero. Notice how Arrowcreek has not responded directly to questions? Why won't he come out and denounce the killing of Jews, or directly answer a question?