Originally Posted by
Forty9er
I think some clarification is needed first. Are you talking about the Millennial reign of Christ or the eternal kingdom? Although it could be said that the first merges into the second, they are still separate and distinct.
One is on the current earth and with the current heavens while the other is on the new earth with the new heavens. The first kingdom will still have mortal humans living on earth while the second is only populated by those with immortal bodies. In the first there can and will be sin while in the second nothing that defiles will be allowed to enter.
I don't agree that these verses from Matthew are talking about believers. Christ could never say to someone who has been born again and indwelt by the Holy Spirit, "I never knew you".
My question was "Will we all have EQUAL Kingdom standing when Messiah returns?" I can't find much about the topic after the 1000 years. May have to think on that a bit.
Let's look:
Mat 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Master, Master,’ shall enter into the reign of the heavens, but he who is doing the desire of My Father in the heavens. “Many shall say to Me in that day, ‘Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?’ “And then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!’
They called Him Master.
They prophesied in His name.
They cast out demons in His Name.
They did mighty works in His name.
What makes you think they weren't believers???? They were rejected for the reason Messiah gave. Similar to these warnings:
2Pe 2:20 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of the Master and Saviour יהושע Messiah, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the first.
2Pe 2:21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the set-apart command1 delivered unto them. Footnote: 1The singular “command” often means “commands” – see 1 Tim. 6:14, Dt. 17:20, Ps. 19:8.
2Pe 2:22 For them the proverb has proved true, “A dog returns to his own vomit,” and, “A washed sow returns to her rolling in the mud.”
Rev 3:15 “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I would that you were cold or hot.
Rev 3:16 “So, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I am going to vomit you out of My mouth.
Tit 1:16 They profess to know Elohim, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unfit for any good work.
These were all believers. Self deluded? Strong delusion? Apostasy? No telling...but they were believers.
1Jn 2:4 The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jn 2:5 But whoever guards His Word, truly the love of Elohim has been perfected1 in him. By this we know that we are in Him.2 Footnotes: 1Gen. 17:1, Ps. 119:1, Mt. 5:48. 2See 3:24.
Last edited by Off-Grid Organics; 07-11-2017 at 06:09 PM.
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