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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsX
    Yes, Aryans are White.
    So, according to your beliefs, Jesus was an Aryan of the white race. Jews are an inferior race. Strange, that's what the KKK/Nazis believe as well.

    Time to move on.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherree View Post

    So, according to your beliefs, Jesus was an Aryan of the white race.

    Absolutely


    Quote Originally Posted by Sherree View Post

    Jews were an inferior race.

    I said not all "Jews" were Aryan Israelites at the time of Christ.

    Many who were called "Jews" at the time of Christ were Edomites
    who had mongrelized their bloodline beginning with their patriarch, Esau,
    for forsook his inheritance and married forbidden foreign women.

    Jacob [Israel] was careful to marry within his Aryan family.

    God loved Jacob [Israel] but hated Esau [Edom.] This is an OT verse
    that Paul repeats in Romans 9:13 and is referenced again in Rev 3:7-9,
    the fake "Jews" are the antichrist synagogue of satan Edomite-jews,
    descendants of Edomites who feigned conversion en masse to being
    "Jews" in the 2nd century BC.

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    A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion in full compliance with Jewish law.It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what you believe or what you do. A person born to non-Jewish parents who believes everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and custom of the Jews is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most liberal movements of Judaism, and a person born to a Jewish mother who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox. In this sense, being a Jew is more like a nationality than like other religions; it is like a citizenship.
    http://www.mechon-mamre.org/jewfaq/whoisjew.htm

    Who Is a Jew?

    Level: Basic

    • In the Bible, Jews were called Hebrews or Children of Israel
    • The terms "Jew" and "Judaism" come from the tribe or kingdom of Judah
    • "Jew" now refers to all physical and spiritual descendants of Jacob
    • A person can be Jewish by birth or by conversion
    • Traditionally, Jewish status passes through the mother, not the father

    Origins of the Words "Jew" and "Judaism"

    The original name for the people we now call Jews was Hebrews. The word "Hebrew" (in Hebrew, "Ivri") is first used in the Torah to describe Abraham (Gen. 14:13). The word is apparently derived from the name Eber, one of Abraham's ancestors. Another tradition teaches that the word comes from the word "eyver," which means "the other side," referring to the fact that Abraham came from the other side of the Euphrates, or referring to the fact Abraham was separated from the other nations morally and spiritually. Another name used for the people is Children of Israel or Israelites, which refers to the fact that the people are descendants of Jacob, who was also called Israel. The word "Jew" (in Hebrew, "Yehudi") is derived from the name Judah, which was the name of one of Jacob's twelve sons. Judah was the ancestor of one of the tribes of Israel, which was named after him. Likewise, the word Judaism literally means "Judah-ism," that is, the religion of the Yehudim. Other sources, however, say that the word "Yehudim" means "People of G-d," because the first three letters of "Yehudah" are the same as the first three letters of G-d's four-letter name. Originally, the term Yehudi referred specifically to members of the tribe of Judah, as distinguished from the other tribes of Israel. However, after the death of King Solomon, the nation of Israel was split into two kingdoms: the kingdom of Judah and the kingdom of Israel (I Kings 12; II Chronicles 10). After that time, the word Yehudi could properly be used to describe anyone from the kingdom of Judah, which included the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Levi, as well as scattered settlements from other tribes. The most obvious biblical example of this usage is in Esther 2:5, where Mordecai is referred to as both a Yehudi and a member of the tribe of Benjamin. In the 6th century B.C.E., the kingdom of Israel was conquered by Assyria and the ten tribes were exiled from the land (II Kings 17), leaving only the tribes in the kingdom of Judah remaining to carry on Abraham's heritage. These people of the kingdom of Judah were generally known to themselves and to other nations as Yehudim (Jews), and that name continues to be used today. In common speech, the word "Jew" is used to refer to all of the physical and spiritual descendants of Jacob/Israel, as well as to the patriarchs Abraham and Isaac and their wives, and the word "Judaism" is used to refer to their beliefs. Technically, this usage is inaccurate, just as it is technically inaccurate to use the word "Indian" to refer to the original inhabitants of the Americas. However, this technically inaccurate usage is common both within the Jewish community and outside of it, and is therefore used throughout this site.
    Who is a Jew?

    A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism. It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what you believe or what you do. A person born to non-Jewish parents who has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most liberal movements of Judaism, and a person born to a Jewish mother who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox. In this sense, Judaism is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being Jewish is like a citizenship. See What Is Judaism? This has been established since the earliest days of Judaism. In the Torah, you will see many references to "the strangers who dwell among you" or "righteous proselytes" or "righteous strangers." These are various classifications of non-Jews who lived among Jews, adopting some or all of the beliefs and practices of Judaism without going through the formal process of conversion and becoming Jews. Once a person has converted to Judaism, he is not referred to by any special term; he is as much a Jew as anyone born Jewish. Although all Jewish movements agree on these general principles, there are occasional disputes as to whether a particular individual is a Jew. Most of these disputes fall into one of two categories. First, traditional Judaism maintains that a person is a Jew if his mother is a Jew, regardless of who his father is. The liberal movements, on the other hand, allow Jewish status to pass through the mother or the father if the child identifies as Jewish. For example, former Phillies catcher Mike Lieberthal, who had a Jewish father but chooses not to be identified as Jewish, would not be Jewish according to the Reform movement, but former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, who had a Jewish father and adopted a Jewish identity as an adult, would be considered Jewish. See their position here). On the other hand, the child of a a Christian father and a Jewish mother who does not publicly identify himself as Jewish would be considered Jewish according to the Orthodox movement, but not according to the Reform movement. Actor Harrison Ford would fit into this category: his mother's parents were Jewish, but he does not particularly consider himself to be of any religion, but the Orthodox would count him toward a minyan if he showed up for services. The matter becomes even more complicated, because the status of that interfaith child's children also comes into question.
    http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm

    Israelite,
    descendant of the
    Hebrew
    patriarch
    Jacob
    , whose name was changed to
    Israel
    after an all-night fight at Penuel near the stream of Jabbok (Genesis 32:2. In early history, Israelites were simply members of the 12 tribes of Israel. After 930 bce and the establishment of two independent Hebrew kingdoms in Palestine, the 10 northern tribes
    constituting
    the kingdom of Israel were known as Israelites to distinguish them from the southern kingdom of
    Judah
    . The northern kingdom was conquered by the Assyrians in 721 bce, and its population was eventually absorbed by other peoples.
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Israelite

    From simply reading the Bible and not reading anything into what is not there, we can come to at least 2 conclusions.

    1) Jesus was from the Tribe of Judah, on both sides of His parents, tracing His mother's line in Luke makes Him a Jew. It also does not make Him one of the so called Lost Tribes of Israel.

    2) As to any possibility of Aryan, read Persians, Esther was of the Tribe of Benjamin, therefore no cross over.

    3) If you'd of watched Net-n-yahoo's speech yesterday, it would be hard to say he wasn't white.

    And just to ruffle KingsX feathers for fun look at this:


    Deuteronomy
    Chapter
    28
    Vers. 15 - 68
    Deuteronomy 28
    Proves African Americans (Negroes)
    are the true children of Israel
    The Shocking Truth About African Americans
    Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:

    Who is an Israelite?
    Our Challenge: We will publicly debate
    any
    "Bible Theologian" on the curses
    of
    Deuteronomy 28
    to determine which group of people fit these curses!

    The True Name Of God (Yah)


    WHO IS AN ISRAELITE?

    An Israelite is a descendant of the scriptural patriarch Jacob. Jacob was the Grandson of Abraham
    and the son of Isaac. Jacob had 12 sons these sons were the progenitors of the 12 tribes of Israel.
    Jacob name was changed to Israel (Ysrayl) in Genesis 32:28 and his descendants were called
    Israelites which denotes they are The children of Jacob or The Children of Israel. The Suffix "ITE"
    means a descent from, ISRAEL.
    WHO ARE THE HEBREW ISRAELITES?

    The Hebrew Israelites are the modern descendants of the ancient Israelites. The Hebrew Israelites
    have been scattered to the four corners of the earth. They reside in all lands among all people, they
    are suffering from the curses that are found in the law books of Leviticus chapter 26 and
    Deuteronomy chapter 28. Today they are known by the bywords and proverbs of "BLACKS,
    AFRICAN AMERICANS, AFRO AMERICANS, NEGROES, NIGGERS, ETC. The Hebrew Israelites are
    the true descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. They are the priest of the Most High
    WHAT IS A JEW?

    A Jew is a person who practice the religion of Judaism. Jew does not mean a descendant of ancient
    Israel. The ancient Hebrews were not called Jews, that is a mistranslation, Jew is not a Hebrew Word,
    it's english. Jew is a word that was created by Gentiles and given to the Israelite tribe of Yahudah
    (Judah). Yah the Most High didn't give his people the name of Jew, this was done by men. Jew is not
    in the 1611 KJV of the bible. The ancient Hebrew Israelites were not Jews neither are their
    descendants. But if you practice the religion of Judaism or subscribe to the Jewish culture or
    traditions, then you can be called a Jew.
    DO HEBREW ISRAELITES PRACTICE JUDAISM?

    NO, the majority of Israelites don't practice Judaism. Judaism is not of the scriptures. Judaism is a
    religion created by the people known as Jews. In the scriptures no matter what translation you
    use, you will not find the word Judaism mention. Yah didn't give Israel a religion called Judaism, he
    gave us his Laws, Statues, Commandments,& Judgments and told us to obey them. Once we as
    Israelites are redirected to our mighty one. We follow the direction he has laid out for us in
    scripture. Jews will be the first to admit that Judaism is not of the scripture it's from their Rabbi's,
    that's why it's known as Rabbinic Judaism, which consists of several branches.

    ORTHODOX
    REFORM
    CONSERVATION
    HASIDIC

    We are not Jews so we don't follow Judaism.


    ARE HEBREW ISRAELITES BLACK RACIST AND HATE PREACHERS?

    A true Israelite is not a hate preacher or racist. That would be going against the words of the
    Creator. Israel can't be a hate filled people, part of our duty for being chosen is to take the words
    of the Most High to all the nations on earth, so that they can get salvation. In fact in a short time
    many of us will lose our lives trying to complete this task. By us coming to you trying to reveal the
    truth to you, so that you can obtain salvation, is LOVE. If we were hate filled or hate preacher we
    would just sit back and watch you perish in your sins. You can not be a servant of the Most High
    and Hate those whom he has called you to teach. The Hebrew Scriptures (old testament) are not
    about Hate, any true Hebrew who loves the scripture, YAH and YAH's people do not practice any
    form of Hate teachings. A true Israelite teach the uncut word of YAH, He teaches the truth of
    scripture.
    Hebrew Israelite Family
    WHAT IS A HEBREW?

    A Hebrew is a Descendant of the scriptural Patriarch Abraham. He is the first to be called Hebrew
    (Genesis 14:13). The Most High made a Covenant with Abraham and his seed. The Title Hebrew
    was passed on from Abraham to his Son Isaac and Isaac son Jacob and to Jacobs 12 sons who
    became the 12 tribes of Israel. The Israelites were known and called Hebrews mainly by outsiders or
    foreigners. The name means One who crosses over, or wander. It is also derived from Eber, which
    means "one who emigrates" and "beyond, on the other side." Abraham and his posterity being
    called Hebrews in order to express a distinction between the races east and west of the Euphrates. It
    may also be derived from Heber, one of the ancestors of Abraham (Genesis 10:24) Hebrew is a
    proper title that is still in use today by the true modern descendants of ancient Israel.
    Ashkenazi (European) Jews


    WHEN WILL ISRAEL RETURN TO THE LAND OF PROMISE?

    Israel will be regathered and returned back to the land of Israel, when YAH Returns back. Upon his
    arrival HE will regather scattered Israel, those whom the Most High has found worthy, and return
    them to their Land. Read our page on this site called THE EXILE AND RETURN OF ISRAEL TO
    THE HOLY LAND AND ISRAEL'S REDEMPTION. It has all the basic information you need to know
    about Israel's return

    Also See
    If You Believe The Kingdom Was Taken From Israel And Given To Another
    Nation See Israel Forever
    Spreading the Truth

    Wise Men Still Seek Him

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    Deuteronomy 28
    Proves African Americans (Negroes)
    are the true children of Israel
    LOL. Well, CaryC, one view is just as extreme as the other!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaryC View Post

    1) Jesus was from the Tribe of Judah, on both sides of His parents, tracing His mother's line in Luke makes Him a Jew. It also does not make Him one of the so called Lost Tribes of Israel.


    I posted that Jesus was an Aryan Israelite.

    I never posted that Jesus was from the Northern Kingdom of Israel that was removed from the holy land in the 8th century BC.

    Obviously he was not.

    But both Kingdoms... the Southern Kingdom of Judah and the Northern Kingdom of Israel... all 12 tribes... were Aryan Israelites.

    James 1:1 says all 12 tribes of Israel were scattered abroad.

    Edomites were not Israelites and not Aryans. But they were "Jews" via Edom's conversion en masse in the 2nd century BC.


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    $450 million for a painting is clearly a case of more money than brains.

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    It’s a very portable “Investment” nothing more

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    It's a good thing I read the OP because I assumed this was about the Prince that paid millions for a British virgin...
    They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pastor Guest View Post
    The only things we know about our Lord's physical appearance from the scriptures are, he wasn't good looking and he had a beard. That's it.
    I'm not aware of the "not good looking aspect".....
    Educate others to grow our base of informed citizens, it's tyranny. Spread the Gospel.

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    Network with those who prepare wisely and take advantage of the strength in numbers and the economy of scale.

    Then, when the curtains come down and the truth is evident to an informed citizenry, we unite and fight the new world order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ractivist View Post
    I'm not aware of the "not good looking aspect".....
    Isaiah 53

    2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender
    plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he
    hath no form nor comeliness: there is no
    beauty that we should desire him.
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