Keeping His Commandments

[Forty9er]

I hate it when the Scriptures lie to us, don't you?

Luk 1:5 There was in the days of Herodes, the sovereign of Yehuḏah, a certain priest named Zeḵaryah, of the division of Aḇiyah. And his wife was of the daughters of Aharon, and her name was Elisheḇa.

Luk 1:6 And they were both righteous before Elohim, blamelessly walking in all the commands and righteousnesses of יהוה.

I wonder if they actually believed YHUH when He said:

Deu 30:11 “For this command which I am commanding you today, it is not too hard for you, nor is it far off.

I was trying to take a brake from all of this but your anti-Scripture and anti-God teaching is so disgusting that I have to reply.

What you are teaching is a self-righteousness that even goes beyond what those who don't know God believe, that they are "good enough" to be saved and go to heaven. But you teach that man isn't just good enough but is able to follow the Law perfectly and stand before God perfectly holy in his own righteousness. Your twisted teaching implies that there is no need for faith and actually no need for Christ to have died. That is completely contrary to what Scripture teaches and it is truly another gospel that deserves all the condemnation that Galatians and the rest of Scripture gives it.

Here is your reference to Luke 1:5-6 but in actual English:

Luke 1:5 In the days of Herod, king of Judea, there was a priest named Zechariah, of the division of Abijah. And he had a wife from the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth.
Luke 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking blamelessly in all the commandments and statutes of the Lord.

It says that "they were both righteous before God". Stop right there. There is only ONE way to be righteous before God and that is by faith:

Rom 4:3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.”

Faith is the only reason Abraham was righteous before God and faith is the only reason anyone is righteous before God. So that, and that alone, is what is meant by the phrase "they were both righteous before God".

Then, only after God saw their faith and gave them righteousness because of it, the verse goes on to say that they were walking "blamelessly" in all the commandments and statutes of the Lord. But their walking blameless was not the cause of their being righteous before God.

And what does it mean when it says that they were blameless? It means that as far as anyone observing their behavior with regard to the Law, there was nothing that people could see to accuse them of violating the Law. But it does not mean that they fulfilled the Law perfectly and were therefore righteous before God. And that is exactly what James is saying:

Jas 2:18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.

[Off-Grid Organics]

What you are teaching is a self-righteousness that even goes beyond what those who don't know God believe, that they are "good enough" to be saved and go to heaven. But you teach that man isn't just good enough but is able to follow the Law perfectly and stand before God perfecty holy in his own righteousness. Your twisted teaching implies that there is no need for faith and actually no need for Christ to have died. That is completely contrary to what Scripture teaches and it is truly another gospel that deserves all the condemnation that Galatians and the rest of Scrpture gives it.

Self righteousness? Using Messiah as my example? How do you read this? 1Jn 3:7 Little children, let no one lead you astray. The one doing righteousness is righteous, even as He is righteous.1 Footnote: 1See 2:29.

[Look4Truth]

You beat me to it lol, but well said Forty9er.

The hypocrisy of the Law (un)Keepers is what really gets me. They point their fingers at everyone else with three pointing back at them. They champion the belief that we're all supposed to obey the commandments but they themselves are unable to do so. They throw yokes around at everyone else while pretending they have no yoke. It's sheer hypocrisy.

The only righteousness we have is through Jesus Christ. Period.

[Forty9er]

You beat me to it lol, but well said Forty9er.

The hypocrisy of the Law (un)Keepers is what really gets me. They point their fingers at everyone else with three pointing back at them. They champion the belief that we're all supposed to obey the commandments but they themselves are unable to do so. They throw yokes around at everyone else while pretending they have no yoke. It's sheer hypocrisy.

The only righteousness we have is through Jesus Christ. Period.

Exactly. And their hypocrisy and behavior is mentioned several times in Scripture. For example:

Gal 4:29 But just as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now.

And they almost never mention faith because it plays no role in their false gospel. Why would a person ever need faith if they are made righteous and acceptable to God by following the Law?

[Look4Truth]

Exactly. And their hypocrisy and behavior is mentioned several times in Scripture. For example:



And they almost never mention faith because it plays no role in their false gospel. Why would a person ever need faith if they are made righteous and acceptable to God by following the Law?

Right. It's just fence-sitting but I fear they will fall off on the wrong side of the fence when they bow the knee. You can't have it both ways, either you accept Jesus Christ as your righteous Advocate or you do not.


Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. ~ Matthew 7:22-23

Very dangerous territory. I'm no fool, I know there's nothing I can offer God except for filthy rags. No, His gift of life and salvation is what I will present, nothing more, nothing less.

[Off-Grid Organics]

your anti-Scripture and anti-God teaching is so disgusting that I have to reply.

Amazing we feel the same way about each others posts! Who-da' thunk?