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    Multiple sources told Fox News that Captain Jan Jordan directed responding deputies and units to “stage” or form a “perimeter” outside Stoneman Douglas High School, instead of rushing immediately into the building. (File)


    The Broward County Sheriff’s Office has identified to Fox News the captain who, according to sources, directed responding deputies and units to “stage” or form a “perimeter” outside Stoneman Douglas High School, instead of rushing immediately into the building, as the mass shooting unfolded there.




    Multiple law enforcement and official sources said the commands in the initial moments after Nikolas Cruz allegedly opened fire would go against all training which instructs first responders to “go, go, go” until the shooter is neutralized. As law enforcement arrived, the shooter’s identity and exact location were still unknown.
    Multiple sources told Fox News that Captain Jan Jordan was the commanding officer on scene. In an email responding to Fox News’ request for information, a BSO spokesperson wrote, “Capt. Jordan’s radio call sign is 17S1.”


    The massacre on February 14 killed 17 people and wounded 16 others.
    Sources told Fox News it was Jordan giving the commands because they were recorded on the dispatch logs coming from Jordan’s radio insignia 17S1, or “Seventeen Sierra One.”



    In the email, the BSO spokesperson also shed some light on the allegations against Jordan’s commands writing, “Captain Jordan asked if a perimeter had been established after the shooter left the building.”


    Fox News replied to BSO with more follow-up questions, but has not heard back despite multiple requests into its media relations office. BSO’s explanation about the perimeter command might indicate, as Fox News reported, that Jordan knew more information than other law enforcement on scene, and her commands to stage and form a perimeter may have been valid.
    BSO also did not respond to Fox News’ initial request for comment about Jordan’s alleged commands to “stage” outside, setting up an area to keep first responders safe before police secure a violent scene. Multiple law enforcement sources said that command also would have been detrimental to victims inside the building because it would have stalled officers.
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    “You cannot disregard what Sierra Unit says. They are the commanding unit,” a law enforcement source told Fox News. “When she says she needs a perimeter, every other deputy responding to the scene takes perimeter.”
    COMMANDING OFFICER INITIALLY ORDERED RESPONDING DEPUTIES TO 'STAGE' NOT ENTER STONEMAN DOUGLAS, SOURCES SAY
    Several law enforcement sources said BSO’s explanation that Jordan asked for a perimeter did not make sense because anything Jordan was saying on the radio would have been considered a command -- not a question.
    “You don’t ask for a perimeter over air. She is the captain. She is the leader. Who would she be asking?” one law enforcement source said.
    Dispatch logs obtained by Fox News appeared to show that at 2:32 p.m., roughly 11 minutes after Cruz opened fire, the first command to form a perimeter was issued, “17S1... NEED PERIMETER.”


    A copy of Broward County’s active-shooter policy even appeared to indicate that responding deputies and officers may enter the building without permission and should seek to neutralize the shooter until objectives are met — for example, if the shooter is contained. The policy did not appear to indicate a priority for staging or a perimeter.
    The Broward County Sheriff's office is performing its own investigation into the timeline of the day of the shooting. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement is also investigating BSO and the Florida Senate subpoenaed the Broward County Public Schools and responding law enforcement agencies for all records and information related to the shooting.
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    Quite the revelation eh?

    Been ID'd, well. So "wee" now know why there wasn't a stampede of white hatted, super heroes coming to the rescue.

    How 'bout the RSO piece of $&!t that was supposed to be stationed inside the school to sort of discourage such antics but wasn't ... do "wee" have an explanation for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar Wilde View Post
    Quite the revelation eh?

    Been ID'd, well. So "wee" now know why there wasn't a stampede of white hatted, super heroes coming to the rescue.

    How 'bout the RSO piece of $&!t that was supposed to be stationed inside the school to sort of discourage such antics but wasn't ... do "wee" have an explanation for that?

    O.W.
    Wee will never get real answers to any of these legitimate questions.

    Every "man" who stood there while this maniac continued shooting needs to be taken out behind the barn and had his butt whipped. Badly.

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    I don't get it. I watched this on TV. I have watched the news as more 'developments' are, well, developed. But the nagging question to me is,
    "Wasn't there one single person with the intestinal fortitude to disobey an order(s) that was wrong?" Apparently, not. Not one person who would go in and confront evil. The Coward County Sheriff's dept. will never live this down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paladin1991 View Post
    I don't get it. I watched this on TV. I have watched the news as more 'developments' are, well, developed. But the nagging question to me is,
    "Wasn't there one single person with the intestinal fortitude to disobey an order(s) that was wrong?" Apparently, not. Not one person who would go in and confront evil. The Coward County Sheriff's dept. will never live this down.
    As if this wasn't part of the 'plan' all along. The above 'Xer' in uniform is just a sacrifice that will be transferred and then promoted, "she did nothing wrong!" Where are the autopsy reports, where are the bullet holes in the wall, where are the crime photos?
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    It seems to me that they fulfilled their prime directive.... LE all went home safe at the end of their shifts!!!

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    It's been a couple weeks, isn't it time to bulldoze the crime scene?
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    FBI briefed lawmakers on failures leading up to Florida shooting

    By Max Greenwood - 03/07/18 06:23 PM EST 296


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    Top House Republicans said Wednesday that a senior FBI official had briefed lawmakers on the agency's failure to respond to warnings about the teenager accused of carrying out a deadly shooting at a South Florida high school last month.
    Acting FBI Deputy Director David Bowdich met with lawmakers on the House Oversight and Government Reform and Judiciary committees Tuesday to discuss the missteps, which were revealed in the days after the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla.
    Bowdich acknowledged that the FBI failed to follow its own protocol after it received a tip in January about the accused shooter, Nikolas Cruz, 19, and vowed to take corrective actions, according to a press release issued by Reps.

    The FBI admitted just two days after the Feb. 14 shooting that it received a tip from a person close to Cruz the previous month warning about the teen's gun ownership, desire to kill and erratic behavior.

    That tip "should have been assessed as a potential threat to life," the FBI said at the time, but the warnings were never investigated further.
    Bowdich told lawmakers on Tuesday that the call to a tip line provided enough information to justify an FBI probe into the matter, lawmakers said, though information was not passed on to the agency's Miami field office.
    The person who took the tip line call spoke with their supervisor afterwards, but that conversation was not documented, according to Gowdy and Goodlatte.
    Bowdich also said that the employee who took the January phone call was able to connect the warning to another tip from September regarding a threatening YouTube comment. That comment, posted under the username "nikolas cruz," read, "I am going to be a professional school shooter."
    The shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School left 17 people dead and more than a dozen others wounded. Cruz, a former student at the school who had been expelled for disciplinary reasons, allegedly carried out the attack with an AR-15 rifle that he purchased legally from a dealer in Coral Springs roughly a year earlier.
    A grand jury in Broward County returned an indictment for Cruz on Wednesday, charging him with 17 counts of first-degree murder and 17 counts of attempted murder.
    Cruz's public defender has said that the teen will plead guilty to the charges if prosecutors agree not to pursue the death penalty. Michael Satz, the state attorney prosecuting the case, has not said whether he will seek a death sentence for Cruz
    They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
    “As a general rule, the earlier you recognize someone is trying to kill you, the better off you’ll be.”

    "You think a wall as solid as the earth separates civilisation from barbarism. I tell you the division is a sheet of glass."



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    Fox News replied to BSO with more follow-up questions, but has not heard back despite multiple requests into its media relations office.
    All that radio chatter, if recorded, should be public record under Florida state law, but I don't know how much LEO stuff might be exceptions.
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    Capt. "Establish Perimeter" Jordan is still on the job... Oh the irony.

    This is Debbie Wassermann-Shultz's district.

    As word spread that an armed attacker was shooting up a Parkland high school, two members of the Miramar Police Department’s SWAT team responded to the scene.

    They had been training in nearby Coral Springs earlier that day and wanted to help end a deadly mass shooting that claimed 17 lives.

    But their own commander said he didn’t know they were going. And the Broward Sheriff’s Office — worried about over-crowding a chaotic scene with law enforcement officers — didn’t ask for them to show up. BSO already had its own SWAT team in motion.

    Eight days after the tragedy at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, the two Miramar officers, Det. Jeffery Gilbert and Det. Carl Schlosser, were temporarily suspended from duty with the SWAT team. They remain on active duty with the department, according to a Miramar police spokeswoman.
    Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article203903054.html



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