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    House Democrats Plan To Criminalize Private Gun Sales

    While the Democrats’ gun control push will not prevent mass shootings, it will criminalize a grandfather for passing his goose gun to his grandson without government permission. It will also criminalize a mother who gives her college-age daughter a revolver for self-defense without first getting government permission.

    Tim BrownDecember 5, 2018

    Democrats have promised an anti-Second Amendment agenda once they take over the House in January. Among the plethora of unconstitutional legislation, they will seek to push through is to criminalize private gun sales between individuals.

    Democrats will do this by advancing a bill that will require a background check for every single gun sale. Remember, these are the same people that cry "innocent until proven guilty" when they are accused of criminal activity, but they want you and me to prove our innocence and will assume we are guilty before purchasing a gun and exercising our God-given rights to keep and bear such arms, which they are supposed to protect.

    Mother Jones reports:
    ...legislation that echoes the Manchin-Toomey provisions has languished in the GOP-controlled Congress. Reps. Mike Thompson (D-Calif.) and Peter King (R-N.Y.) have reintroduced the measure twice in the last four years, but House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) refused to bring the bill up for a vote—even as it racked up 208 co-sponsors, including 14 Republicans.
    But with Ryan leaving Congress and Democrats winning control of the House, Thompson now plans to introduce a bill that will go further than any of those earlier proposals: It will require a background check for every gun sale or transfer, regardless of who’s doing the selling or transferring. The move has been in the works since before the election, when Thompson met with outside gun reform allies like the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, Everytown for Gun Safety, the Center for American Progress, the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, and Giffords to talk about what they might push for if Democrats won the House.

    Of course, they advocate that a high percentage of Americans want universal background checks, including those who are members of pro-Second Amendment groups.

    All I have to say is that you only want that, which infringes on your rights, because you don't advocate for real justice against violent criminals. Yes, I'm talking about the death penalty. When you don't bring justice, you start infringing on the people's rights.

    Background checks do not and will not keep guns out of the hands of criminals.


    Awr Hawkins has more on what this asinine and unconstitutional legislation would do, and pay close attention to who becomes a criminal in all of this.
    So Thompson will sponsor legislation requiring a background check before someone may buy a gun from his neighbor, a co-worker to get a background check before buying a gun from a co-worker, and so forth. The bill will go so far as to require a son to get a background check before a father can give him a gun as a gift.
    Private gun sales are legal and have been an American tradition since 1791, the year the Second Amendment was ratified.
    Ironically, a ban on private sales would not have stopped a single mass shooting witnessed to this point in the 21st century because nearly every mass shooter acquires his guns at retail via a background check. The exceptions to the rule are the mass shooters who steal their guns.
    While the Democrats’ gun control push will not prevent mass shootings, it will criminalize a grandfather for passing his goose gun to his grandson without government permission. It will also criminalize a mother who gives her college-age daughter a revolver for self-defense without first getting government permission.

    Here's the thing, besides infringing on the rights of the people in the Second Amendment, what business does DC have legislating what takes place between two people in the state concerning those very rights? They were charged with making sure the trade between the states was made regular, not between individuals in the same state.

    By the way, if an individual sells a gun outside his state, that transfer occurs through an FFL. Frankly, I don't see a warrant in the Constitution for that either, but my point is that when you give these people a rope, they want to be a cowboy. Let's stop giving them rope.
    In fact, we need to be bringing justice to criminal politicians by impeaching them, indicting them, trying them and then we can break out the rope. If the people don't bring justice against them, they will most certainly bring injustice against us.

    https://freedomoutpost.com/house-dem...ate-gun-sales/
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    Backdoor registration which will lead to confiscation.
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    ...which will lead to confrontation...prep and pray, the end has arrived.

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    It will be hilarious when the Dems learn that that big red S on their chests does not stand for Superman
    They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
    “As a general rule, the earlier you recognize someone is trying to kill you, the better off you’ll be.”

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    Not sure it’ll happen just yet. They can pass whatever they like in the House, but Senate and White House are in Republican hands for a couple more years.

    That said, I can’t see it holding off forever. Get done what you need to get done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pastor Guest View Post
    Backdoor registration which will lead to confiscation.
    Immunity to that could be gained by a registration system that automatically defaulted to OK TO HAVE GUNS with no info about you're having guns of any number or none at all. Unless you fit into one of the wacko categories you're presumed a reputable patriotic citizen.

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    I am absolutely certain that a law like that will be ignored by millions of Americans. A quiet "F You!" to D.C.

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    Every municipality has the capability to field at least one assault team to invade your home at O'Dark 30.
    Thousands of perceived leaders of liberty could be taken in a single night. In a single coordinated hour even.
    Policy enforcement swear oaths to enforce all arbitrary commands of the Ruling Class. (For your own good of course.)
    In order to preserve their paychecks, they will do as they are told.
    Not only will weapons be taken but the target and his/her whole family must be eliminated.
    When you are dead, buried weapons remain buried and useless.

    Could the Ruling Class order total weapons confiscation? Yes.
    Would the Ruling class order total weapons confiscation? Doubtful.
    Just the threat of such an event is enough to keep the Peasant Class in fear and controlled.

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    What a nightmare, I have not been shooting in 8 months so I took my two favorite rifles out, My 270 and my heavy barrel 308
    With the 270 @ 200 yards I usually have a 3/4- 1.25 inch group. This time I could not hit the paper, or the target stand, or the stump behind the target stand! I was infuriated until I noticed several bullet impacts far to the left of my target. The last time I shot the 270 was in a strong cross wind at 700 yards, my bullets were hitting 4.5 feet high and 6 feet to the left!
    My 308, which usually shoots clover leafs @100 never grouped below 1" despite my best efforts. I blame the cold!
    They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
    “As a general rule, the earlier you recognize someone is trying to kill you, the better off you’ll be.”

    "You think a wall as solid as the earth separates civilisation from barbarism. I tell you the division is a sheet of glass."



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