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    Your smartphone apps are tracking your every move, and they’re not keeping it secret

    The app developers can make money by directly selling their data, or by sharing it for location-based ads, which command a premium.

    By New York Times | Updated: December 11, 2018 6:18:58 pm


    At least 75 companies receive anonymous, precise location data from apps whose users enable location services to get local news and weather or other information, The New York Times found. (Image Source: The New York Times) By Jennifer Valentino-DeVries, Natasha Singer, Michael H. Keller and Aaron Krolik

    The millions of dots on the map trace highways, side streets and bike trails — each one following the path of an anonymous cellphone user. One path tracks someone from a home outside Newark, New Jersey, to a nearby Planned Parenthood. Another represents a person who travels with New York’s mayor during the day and returns to Long Island at night.

    Yet another leaves a house in upstate New York at 7am and travels to a middle school 14 miles away, staying until late afternoon each school day. Only one person makes that trip: Lisa Magrin, 46, a math teacher. Her smartphone goes with her.

    An app on the device gathered her location information, which was then sold without her knowledge. It recorded her whereabouts as often as every two seconds, according to a database of more than 1 million phones in the New York area that was reviewed by The New York Times. While Magrin’s identity was not disclosed in those records, The Times was able to easily connect her to that dot.

    The app tracked her as she went to a Weight Watchers meeting and to her dermatologist’s office. It followed her hiking and staying at her ex-boyfriend’s home, information she found disturbing. “It’s the thought of people finding out those intimate details that you don’t want people to know,” said Magrin, who allowed The Times to review her location data.

    Like many consumers, Magrin knew apps could track people’s movements. But as smartphones have become ubiquitous and technology more accurate, an industry of snooping on people’s daily habits has spread and grown more intrusive.

    At least 75 companies receive anonymous, precise location data from apps whose users enable location services to get local news and weather or other information, The Times found. The database reviewed by The Times — a sample of information gathered in 2017 and held by one company — reveals people’s travels in startling detail, accurate to within a few yards and in some cases updated more than 14,000 times a day.

    These companies sell, use or analyze the data to cater to advertisers, retail outlets and even hedge funds. It is a hot market, with sales of location-targeted advertising reaching an estimated $21 billion this year. IBM has gotten into the industry, with its purchase of the Weather Channel’s apps.

    Businesses say their interest is in the patterns, not the identities, that the data reveals about consumers. They note that the information apps collect is tied not to someone’s name or phone number but to a unique ID. But those with access to the raw data — including employees or clients — could still identify a person without consent. They could follow someone they knew, by pinpointing a phone that regularly spent time at that person’s home address. Or, working in reverse, they could attach a name to an anonymous dot, by seeing where the device spent nights and using public records to figure out who lived there.

    Many location companies say that when phone users enable location services, their data is fair game. But, The Times found, the explanations people see when prompted to give permission are often incomplete or misleading. An app may tell users that granting access to their location will help them get traffic information, but not mention that the data will be shared and sold. That disclosure is often buried in a vague privacy policy.

    Mobile Surveillance Devices


    Fitness tracking app Strava did cause security scares, as the heat maps of the same helped track information of military bases. (Image Source: Strava) After Elise Lee, a nurse in Manhattan, saw that her device had been tracked to the main operating room at the hospital where she works, she expressed concern about her privacy and that of her patients. “It’s very scary,” said Lee, who allowed The Times to examine her location history in the data set it reviewed.

    Retailers look to tracking companies to tell them about their own customers and their competitors’. For a web seminar last year, Elina Greenstein, an executive at the location company GroundTruth, mapped out the path of a hypothetical consumer from home to work to show potential clients how tracking could reveal a person’s preferences.

    “We look to understand who a person is, based on where they’ve been and where they’re going, in order to influence what they’re going to do next,” Greenstein said. Health care facilities are among the more enticing but troubling areas for tracking, as Lee’s reaction demonstrated. Tell All Digital, a Long Island advertising firm that is a client of a location company, says it runs ad campaigns for personal injury lawyers targeting people anonymously in emergency rooms.

    To evaluate location-sharing practices, The Times tested 20 apps, most of which had been flagged by researchers and industry insiders as potentially sharing the data. Together, 17 of the apps sent exact latitude and longitude to about 70 businesses. Precise location data from one app, WeatherBug on iOS, was received by 40 companies. When contacted by The Times, some of the companies that received that data described it as “unsolicited” or “inappropriate.”

    A Question of Awareness

    Companies that use location data say people agree to share their information in exchange for customized services, rewards and discounts. Magrin, the teacher, noted that she liked that tracking technology let her record her jogging routes. Brian Wong, chief executive of Kiip, a mobile ad firm that has also sold anonymous data from some of the apps it works with, says users give apps permission to use and share their data. “You are receiving these services for free because advertisers are helping monetize and pay for it,” he said, adding, “You would have to be pretty oblivious if you are not aware that this is going on.”

    But Lee, the nurse, had a different view. “I guess that’s what they have to tell themselves,” she said of the companies. “But come on.” Lee had given apps on her iPhone access to her location only for certain purposes and only if they did not indicate that the information would be used for anything else, she said. Magrin had allowed about a dozen apps on her Android phone access to her whereabouts for services like traffic notifications.

    But it is easy to share information without realizing it. Of the 17 apps The Times saw sending precise location data, just three on iOS and one on Android told users in a prompt during the permission process that the information could be used for advertising.

    Following the Money

    Apps form the backbone of this new location data economy. The app developers can make money by directly selling their data, or by sharing it for location-based ads, which command a premium. Location data companies pay half a cent to 2 cents per user per month, according to offer letters to app makers reviewed by The Times.

    Google and Facebook, which dominate the mobile ad market, also lead in location-based advertising. Both companies collect the data from their own apps. They say they do not sell it but keep it for themselves to personalize their services, sell targeted ads across the internet and track whether the ads lead to sales at brick-and-mortar stores.

    Apple and Google have a financial interest in keeping developers happy, but both have taken steps to limit location data collection. In the most recent version of Android, apps that are not in use can collect locations “a few times an hour,” instead of continuously. Apple has been stricter, for example requiring apps to justify collecting location details in pop-up messages. But Apple’s instructions for writing these pop-ups do not mention advertising or data sale.

    Apple recently shelved plans that industry insiders say would have significantly curtailed location collection. Last year, the company said an upcoming version of iOS would show a blue bar on screen whenever an app not in use was gaining access to location data. The discussion served as a “warning shot” to people in the location industry, David Shim, chief executive of the location company Placed, said at an industry event last year.


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    Remember when this was just tinfoil hat conspiracy stuff?

    Now Google sends me a notice as soon as I walk out of a store ...

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    Nothing to it as I see many friends on FB that are here eating at some place at some airport, and so on. This is the norm when you have the GPS turned On. They are ONLY tracking you if you have the GPS ON. Git it? NOTHING WAY TO SATOP TRACKING IS SHUT OFF LOCATION ON YOUR DEVICE. WHICH IS ON ALL CELLS AND EVEN ON MY IPAD SHUT OFF LOCATION HISTORY. THAT IS ALL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoppalong View Post
    Nothing to it as I see many friends on FB that are here eating at some place at some airport, and so on. This is the norm when you have the GPS turned On. They are ONLY tracking you if you have the GPS ON. Git it?
    You are incorrect.

    Triangulation is a very basic 1940's technology that is automated in many circumstances with the cellular network.

    In addition, many modern phone OS systems which hook to 3G and above don't use the GPS to locate you. Even Google has admitted this is true.

    https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...turned-off-sim

    For those who can't be bothered to read a Guardian article ... it states that an independent party outed Google's tracking of Android users (even those who turned off GPS) and then Google denied it. The independent party then proved it through releasing the technical data, a bunch of gearheads on the internet dissected the data and proved it was thus, and then Google said, "Yes, well, we ARE technically doing it but we promise to stop."

    They didn't tell you they were doing it before. They denied it when they were first caught. Do you believe them now? I don't. Your mileage may vary.

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    Android alert: How to stop your phone from tracking your every move


    https://clark.com/technology/android-alert-how-to-stop-your-phone-from-tracking-your-every-move/


    Team Clark is adamant that we will never write content influenced by or paid for by an advertiser. To support our work, we do make money from some links to companies and deals on our site. Learn more about our guarantee here.
    If you have a smartphone, one of the features that makes it so smart is location history — a list of everywhere you’ve been!
    When we recently shared how Apple is keeping a log of the addresses iPhone users visit, some people chose to disable the setting using our step-by-step guide.
    Read more: How to see everything Google knows about you
    Stop Google from tracking you on an Android smartphone


    Apple says the feature is meant to improve your experience using the Maps app, but not everyone is OK with being tracked.
    Some people on Clark’s Facebook page wanted to know how to delete location data on Android devices that are connected to Google. Here’s what you need to know:
    Step 1: From your phone’s settings menu, scroll down and select “Location.”



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    Heh. I guess you didn't read the article I linked.

    Yes, you have the illusion of being able to turn it off.

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    why do you think they made the new phones so you cant remove the battery?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoppalong View Post
    Android alert: How to stop your phone from tracking your every move


    https://clark.com/technology/android-alert-how-to-stop-your-phone-from-tracking-your-every-move/


    Team Clark is adamant that we will never write content influenced by or paid for by an advertiser. To support our work, we do make money from some links to companies and deals on our site. Learn more about our guarantee here.
    If you have a smartphone, one of the features that makes it so smart is location history — a list of everywhere you’ve been!
    When we recently shared how Apple is keeping a log of the addresses iPhone users visit, some people chose to disable the setting using our step-by-step guide.
    Read more: How to see everything Google knows about you
    Stop Google from tracking you on an Android smartphone


    Apple says the feature is meant to improve your experience using the Maps app, but not everyone is OK with being tracked.
    Some people on Clark’s Facebook page wanted to know how to delete location data on Android devices that are connected to Google. Here’s what you need to know:
    Step 1: From your phone’s settings menu, scroll down and select “Location.”


    You can believe that if you want hoppy but Miradus is correct. In fact your phone still reports your location even if switched off and the battery is dead due to a second battery built in. I don't recall how to access it anymore but a friend showed me once how to input 4 digits and your phone would become active again on the 2nd battery even though the main battery was dead. Perhaps you should crack those books again and bone up.


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    Course it is a good thing to have these things turned on in case of a emergency. THAT is how they track where you are if one calls 911. This IS A GOOD THING. I listen to a scanner throughout the day and they ALWAYS use the calls to PLOT where the trouble is OR a Emergency situation like a person in a medical emergency as this country AGES with its baby boomers getting older THIS IS A GOOD THING. Like it not it IS.. Course do what you think will shut things off and die out in a ditch someplace then alone. I give not a damn. But many times a day I hear the call is plotted in such a place . Good for this technology SAVING 100's maybe even 1000's a day. Don't care about saving lives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoppalong View Post
    Course it is a good thing to have these things turned on in case of a emergency. THAT is how they track where you are if one calls 911. This IS A GOOD THING. I listen to a scanner throughout the day and they ALWAYS use the calls to PLOT where the trouble is OR a Emergency situation like a person in a medical emergency as this country AGES with its baby boomers getting older THIS IS A GOOD THING. Like it not it IS.. Course do what you think will shut things off and die out in a ditch someplace then alone. I give not a damn. But many times a day I hear the call is plotted in such a place . Good for this technology SAVING 100's maybe even 1000's a day. Don't care about saving lives?
    Wait. You just argued that we were wrong and they could be shut off, and now you're arguing that the feature (you claimed didn't exist) saves lives and that to be against it is to be against saving lives?

    I like intelligent discourse, even with people I don't agree with at all. What I dislike is stupidity and intellectual dishonesty. It's a great way to find that nobody is going to engage with you or even read your posts.

    However, let's play that game just a little bit.

    If I hit the call button on my phone then it engages the cell towers which enables them to triangulate my position. That's cool. I did it. I initiated the contact with the system. In many ways, I have given "informed consent" when I hit that button (though many people don't realize how the system works enough to have been fully informed).

    But when I am passively carrying around my phone, in no need of being tracked by health services to rush to my aid, yet they are still tracking my position for their own purposes ... that's something I did not consent to.

    It could be argued, somewhat reasonably, that simply subscribing to a carrier service these days IS giving consent. I could then ask why they will not allow independent, open-source phone OS movements to actively connect to their network. They've colluded with the phone companies to prevent that.

    You also have Zuckerberg, not a phone manufacturer, but an app developer, who knowingly and willingly lied to Congress about the capabilities of their app interfacing with location services but yet being let get away with it. Essentially the same crime they have Trump's attorney doing 3 years for (lying to Congress), Zuckerberg wasn't even called out on.

    Why?

    The only reasonable explanation is that the phone services and app manufacturers are willing providing their data to the government for the purpose of spying on its citizens.

    But we already knew that thanks to Edward Snowden.

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