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    Might Trump be the most honest president ever? - WND

    by Jack Cashill



    Watching President’s Trump’s confrontation on Tuesday with Sen. Chuck Schumer and Rep. Nancy Pelosi on the subject of immigration, I found myself asking, “Is Donald Trump the most honest president ever?”

    To be sure, Trump is something of a blowhard. To be sure, he can be fairly indifferent to facts, but on big issues, as Pelosi and Schumer experienced up close, he says what he means.
    This is a refreshing contrast to his predecessor. Barack Obama may have been stronger on petty details, but he could be stunningly dishonest on the issues of consequence, immigration among them.
    In the way of background, since Year One of the Bush 43 administration, Congress had been trying to pass the awkwardly titled Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act, better known as the DREAM Act.
    This was an idealized acronym concocted to paper over what was essentially a crime, a geopolitical B & E, breaking and entering.
    Democrat Dick Durbin and Republican Orrin Hatch first introduced the bill in the Senate in August 2001. This was still another bipartisan fandango in the allegedly polarizing Bush era.
    In a nutshell, this bill would have provided permanent residency to those illegal aliens who had arrived in the United States as minors and behaved themselves well enough not to get their mug shot plastered on the Post Office wall.
    Although President Bush supported immigration reform, as did President Obama, neither the DREAM Act nor any major immigration bill made it to their desks. The reason was simple enough: No variation of such a bill could muster adequate congressional support.
    In 2009, eight powerful U.S. senators sponsored still another version of the DREAM Act. Among the sponsors were two Republicans, Richard Lugar and Mel Martinez, as well as independent Joseph Lieberman.
    During this two-year period, Democrats controlled both houses of Congress. Still, the will was not there, nor was the White House leadership, to pass this bill out of the Senate.
    In his 2006 book, “The Audacity of Hope,” Obama argued that checks and balances and robust congressional debates “encouraged the very process of information gathering, analysis and argument.”
    Once Obama ascended to the presidency, all those checks and balances just made it harder for him to transform America. His constituencies, especially labor and the Hispanic lobby, wanted action, not gathering and arguing.
    They started leaning on him to ignore Congress and act unilaterally. One minor obstacle stood in the way, and that was Article I, Section 7, of the United States Constitution.
    For the previous 220 years – “400 years,” according to Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee – that article informed Congress in some detail on how to turn an idea into a law.
    Obama could not enforce the DREAM Act, said Georgetown law professor Nicholas Rosenkrantz, “by pretending that it passed when it did not.” As late as March 2011, legal scholar Obama seemed to agree.
    “America is a nation of laws, which means I, as the president, am obligated to enforce the law,” he told a Univision audience. “With respect to the notion that I can just suspend deportations through executive order, that’s just not the case, because there are laws on the books that Congress has passed.”
    By June 2012, what Obama said in March 2011 seemed as stale as a morning-after bowl of tortilla chips. The president had lost his taste for all that legislative analysis and argument given that the result was “an absence of any immigration action from Congress.”




    Five months before the presidential election he knew the media would give him a pass, and he hoped that Latinos would give him their vote.
    So he decided to dispense with debate and fix immigration policy by his own lights, confident he could make that policy “more fair, more efficient and more just.”
    This fix started with a presidentially guaranteed relief from deportation for the so-called “Dreamers.” On top of that came the right to apply for work authorization, both guarantees in full defiance of existing federal law.
    “There has long been a general consensus that a president cannot refuse to enforce a law that is considered constitutionally sound,” said constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley. That chapter was apparently missing from Obama’s law books.
    The speech that introduced this change of immigration policy was littered with enough lies and half-truths to stir Rep. Joe “You lie” Wilson from the grave, let alone his seat.
    It was not “immunity,” not a “path to citizenship,” only “temporary,” said Obama, who surely planned to turn a million or so of these undocumented Democrats into grateful voters as soon as he could get away with it.
    When the time came, he would urge them to think the way he encouraged all Latinos to think on Election Day: “We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us.”
    Punish our enemies? Truth be told, Trump has not just been more honest than Obama. He’s been less divisive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTreadonMe7 View Post
    Might Trump be the most honest president ever?
    No.

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    This much is true,
    Truth be told, Trump has not just been more honest than Obama. He’s been less divisive.

    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

    George Orwell



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    hmmmm.....did he ever cut down a cherry tree? just sayin
    "At that time there shall arise Michael, the great prince, guardian of your people; It shall be a time unsurpassed in distress since nations began until that time." (Dn 12:1)

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    We didn't have the insight into presidential shenanigans up until the internet age, but I'd hazard to say all of them have been more or less corrupt based on our continual downhill slide into tyranny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miradus View Post
    We didn't have the insight into presidential shenanigans up until the internet age, but I'd hazard to say all of them have been more or less corrupt based on our continual downhill slide into tyranny.
    That episode of Firefly: "Well Jayne, I reckon anyone who had a statue put up of them was a son-of-a-bitch of one type or another"

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    So true. The wisdom of Mal.

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    Ever look up the Battle of The River of Blood?

    He lies even when the truth would do as well or better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    Ever look up the Battle of The River of Blood?

    He lies even when the truth would do as well or better.
    Green man, hoppalong, which is pure, or more pure, to lie or to be a useful idiot? What is each of your drives.........does truth matter at all to either of you, or is it all agenda driven........money, as surely no one on this thread would post your "insight" given the truths exposed? You two are what's wrong with America.....
    Educate others to grow our base of informed citizens, it's tyranny. Spread the Gospel.

    Prepare wisely individually. An army runs on it's stomach.

    Network with those who prepare wisely and take advantage of the strength in numbers and the economy of scale.

    Then, when the curtains come down and the truth is evident to an informed citizenry, we unite and fight the new world order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    Ever look up the Battle of The River of Blood?

    He lies even when the truth would do as well or better.
    Heh, I'd forgotten about that one:
    "The River of Blood" is a monument located on a golf course on Lower Island, Virginia owned by Trump. A plaque signed with Trump's name states that the monument marks the place of numerous deaths in the American Civil War, although no listed battle nor publicly disclosed event with any recorded casualties took place at the site.

    Trump himself disputed the historians' statements:

    "That was a prime site for river crossings. So, if people are crossing the river, and you happen to be in a civil war, I would say that people were shot — a lot of them.

    "How would they know that?" Mr. Trump asked when told that local historians had called his plaque a fiction. "Were they there?"

    Trump said that "numerous historians" had told him the story of the River of Blood, though he later changed that to say the historians had spoken to "my people". Finally he said, "Write your story the way you want to write it. You don't have to talk to anybody. It doesn't make any difference. But many people were shot. It makes sense."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_of_Blood_(monument)

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