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    Default Itís STARTING: A Grocery Store in Indiana SAYS They Canít Process Food Stamp Payments

    It’s STARTING: A Grocery Store in Indiana SAYS They Can’t Process Food Stamp Payments Due to Govt. Shutdown

    January 7, 2019

    by Daisy Luther

    We weren’t expecting to see a loss of food stamp benefits until the end of January, but a grocery store in Indiana reported they are unable to process EBT payments and a store in Pennsylvania is unable to have necessary paperwork approved for them to continue accepting EBT.

    In Clay City, Indiana, the local IGA discovered the problem last week. Initially, they thought it was a technical glitch.

    “Our machines weren’t taking any EBT cards and we didn’t really know what was going on. We didn’t know if it was a technical issue. And then we found out it was due to the government shutting down,” Tristen Malone said. (source)
    UPDATE: (This information became available AFTER the original article was published. I have edited to include this comment from the state government.)

    Officials at the Indiana Family and Social Services Administration have confirmed that issues with EBT payments at one Clay City grocery store are due to a technical error, and aren’t related to the government shutdown, as the store’s management previously claimed. (source)
    However, no explanation has been forthcoming, nor has an estimated time the service will resume been provided
    And although it’s for a slightly different reason, The Red Lion store in York County, Pennsylvania has also had issues. New owners recently purchased the grocery store and sent in their application to accept government benefits before the shutdown occurred.
    “Right now we’re officially frozen because the government is shut down and we can’t process our application.”

    Tom Lohr is the new owner of D & K.
    He says they tried to get pre-approved for the license before the sale went through.
    “We tried to be proactive and start this in December, late November, early December , set up the new entities with the businesses it just has not worked out.”
    Lohr purchased the business, but doesn’t own the company name, so the license belongs to the original owners.
    “We were trying to make it a smooth transition where it would happen the first day we opened, they said if we didn’t hear anything by January 4th to give them a call back. They went dead basically just before Christmas, I think,” said Lohr.
    Sixteen percent of their business comes from people who use food stamps.
    D & K wants to be able to serve those in need, they’re just waiting for the government to re-open. (source)
    And by the end of January, these two stores may only be a drop in the bucket.

    More than 42 million Americans rely on food stamps.

    A lot of people are very smug when it comes to those who rely on EBT benefits for food, picturing people driving Cadillacs to pick up their government-funded lobster and then go home and watch daytime soaps. But if you consider the state of the economy, it’s no surprise that there are millions who can’t make ends meet. Almost half of all Americans can barely afford both food and rent every month. Prices are just getting higher and wages are not increasing to meet the demands.

    Really, the average EBT user isn’t always who you’d expect. Any considering 15 million children are living in homes below the poverty line, the kids will be the ones to suffer.

    It’s pretty easy to be judgmental about those who accept food stamps if you have a good job and a full pantry, but remember that not everyone is in their situation by choice. Nobody is immune to hard times. I’ve been there myself.

    Imagine the unpleasant surprise

    Imagine going to the store to make a purchase, fully believing you have money in your account. But when the cashier tries to ring through your purchase, it’s denied. You ask her to swipe it again, because you know there’s money…but again, it’s declined. “No funds available,” you’re told.

    The people who are going to buy groceries with EBT cards that are supposed to be working right now must be feeling desperate. And their frustration will cross into anger very quickly.

    A cashier from Clay City, Indiana confirmed this.
    “They’re really upset about it, which is understandable. I mean that’s like, you know, really discouraging that they can’t use it. And I mean we’ve had some people even get mad about it but it’s like out of our control, there’s nothing we can do about it,” Malone said. (source)
    Now imagine what the situation would be like if suddenly, at the end of January, 42 million people across the country discover they won’t be able to feed their families.

    It could be chaos very quickly. You know the saying, “We’re just nine meals away from anarchy.”

    It’s all part of the Government Shutdown Theater.

    Every single time the government shuts down, an example is made of ordinary Americans. With the Obama shutdown in 2013, all sorts of people suffered, from Native Americans to migrants to victims of domestic violence. In the current shutdown, it’s the poor people or those working government jobs paycheck to paycheck who will pay the price.

    Why do they do this? Why do they make those who are suffering, suffer more?

    Because the members of Congress and the government wants to impress upon us all how very essential they are to our well-being. They want to provide us with dramatic “evidence” that we can’t get by without them.

    It’s delusional to think our “representatives” in Congress are there to represent anyone but themselves and their “sponsors.”

    No one actually from the government is hurt by the shutdown.

    Meanwhile, the “important” people aren’t noticing any hardship from the government shutdown. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi took a trip to Hawaii (but she promises it wasn’t a vacation.) And members of Congress get paid, but their staffers do not. (Kudos to this handful who have chosen to donate or forfeit their salaries during the shutdown.) It would be difficult for my opinion of these people to be much lower, but I’m sure they’ll manage to undercut my expectations even further.

    The IRS will still take your money and track you down, but they won’t issue any refunds.

    The system, as it stands, is anything but “by the people and for the people.”

    The system is for the people who are benefitting from it. It’s for the people who are playing Americans like disposable chess pieces on a board. It’s for the people who literally benefit from the suffering of those less fortunate.

    But it’s not for the rest of us.

    Get prepared for some serious repercussions.

    There are no signs of this shutdown ending any time soon. (Although that can change on a dime.) If it runs through the end of the month, be prepared to see some serious fallout when millions of people cannot purchase food for their families anymore. But don’t worry – your members of Congress will be just fine, regardless of how long this charade continues.

    If you, personally, are relying on SNAP benefits for food, I strongly advise you to stock up now on low-cost items like beans, rice, oatmeal, peanut butter, pasta, flour, and canned fruits and vegetables. If you have money left on your card for the month, spend it now on things that won’t spoil.

    If you are in a position to donate to food banks to help others, the need could soon be at an all-time high. A package of pasta and a can of sauce could at least provide a family with a warm dinner.

    And no matter what your situation is, be prepared for the potential of unrest. Because hungry people with hungry children will do desperate things.
    ĒThe trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.Ē - Margaret Thatcher

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    I'm guessing they didn't renew their paperwork or had other problems. But at blaming the shutdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naturallysweet View Post
    I'm guessing they didn't renew their paperwork or had other problems. But at blaming the shutdown.
    I think you are correct.

    I have read that if the "shutdown" continues the real problems will begin in three or four weeks.

    This might be a reason the President would want to declare a state of emergency.
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    Note to the author of article: The "government" is insolvent. Pretty sure people should not depend on it. Government shutdown is a blessing in disguise. It cannot continue spending future generation's take care of people now....

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    I feel the Democrats may engineer a crisis around the 11th with the food stamp drop.

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    The stores would be better off if they put a sign on their doors stating
    that they will no longer accept food stamps for the duration of the "Crisis".
    If there is a magic law that claims they must accept food stamps,
    then it is their problem that they made a pact with the devil.

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    Food stamps harm us in so many ways beyond just the original theft of our resources to pay for them.

    One additional harm, they artificially prop up and inflate store prices so that those of us who don't utilize them end up paying a lot more.

    I have always wanted to write a book: "How to be Poor Without Taking Welfare"

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    Trump administration pushes shutdown food stamp crisis back a month
    Alayna TreeneJan 8

    The Department of Agriculture announced Tuesday that it has found a way to continuing providing food stamps to millions of Americans during the month of February, despite the government shutdown.

    Why it matters: As Axios reported earlier, White House officials are increasingly concerned about the impending effects of the shutdown on taxpayers and federal workers. One of those officials told us that the threat to food stamps was the issue that administration officials were most worried about.

    Details: Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue told reporters that his department will rely on a provision from a continuing resolution that recently expired, which allows the federal government to make payments within 30 days after its expiration.

    USDA will begin reaching out to states immediately to request that they allow early issuance of those benefits provided under the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). States have until Jan. 20 to do this.

    • Perdue made clear that this option will only provide enough funds ($4.8 billion) to make it through February, and that he hopes that leaves enough time for the White House and Congress to cut a deal on a long-term funding bill and end this partial lapse in appropriations.

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    Why it matters: As Axios reported earlier, White House officials are increasingly concerned about the impending effects of the shutdown on taxpayers and federal workers. One of those officials told us that the threat to food stamps was the issue that administration officials were most worried about.
    Federal workers should file for tax refunds and apply for food stamps. Should buy them another month.

    Though they can't file for refunds until January 28


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