What is the definition of a "Free Market"?

[dmatic]

Ah ... a great marketing jingle. Sounds good but I don't believe ya'll'd be the first to try 'n hang your hat on it.



Liberty, "free market", same same and baring strong arm imposition are naturally occurring phenomena.

Somehow, someway, someone convinced a significantly larger portion of peepses to surrender the fruits of their labor to further empower that someone ... little girls can't sell cookies or lemonade on the sidewalk in front of their homes without storm troopers showin up to demand permit. Ya got your work cut out for ya.

O.W.

Well, we aren't afraid of a little work to make the world a better place. The whole mission statement reads: ...to advance and defend God-given liberty by promoting Constitutionally limited government, free markets and fiscal responsibility. I like your equating liberty and free market. Interesting. Tucker Carlson had an interesting monologue on January 3rd, to which Ben Shapiro took issue, about 'worshiping' free market capitalism instead of doing what is best for the people. Still pondering those guys' thoughts, but I recently changed my "party" affiliation from Republican to Libertarian, even though I have some problems with their views as well.

It seems to me that we cannot all be "free" without being "moral". Question is: whose morality is best for a free and fair system to operate within, if, indeed, we need a system at all. I, of course, believe God is the definer of true morality. The Bible convinces me that God is concerned about "economics" and just and fair balances and scales.

Economics is the study of the production, distribution and consumption of wealth. God says that He has given us the power (or right?) to create wealth. My working definition of wealth is anything and everything made valuable by human effort.

Obviously, Capitalism is the proven method by which more wealth is created in a society or system. Capitalism seems to be a system where private property is "allowed" and subsequently protected by "government". Whereas Socialism is a system that does not allow private property, in that all things seemingly belong to everybody...

Even though our country was established on mostly capitalistic ideas, socialism has diluted many people's thinking and caused many to not even know what is right anymore.

I agree that the work required to return us to more Godly principles will be great, but so what? We need something to occupy our time....

[Oscar Wilde]

Well, we aren't afraid of a little work to make the world a better place.

Herein lies some of "our" problem ... too broad of scope. Start small, village, town, city. Each of these is rife with corruption and wrong doing in general. If 'we" each could "fix" our own little bitty part of the world, then the world would be a much better place.

For one teeny tiny group of well intended folk to attempt such a task ... well, it'd be mind boggling. Where do you start? Ya start small, teeny tiny "dents". When enough dents are made all the edges touch and the world, collectively is once again a near perfect place ....

.... instead of doing what is best for the people.

See, here's another problem, "doing for the people". People don't really need to be "done for", folks can do for themselves. If an entity exists to "do for the people" and them people need done for, then what we have here is a form of slavery.

Folks that can't manage to do for themselves ain't gonna make it unless charitable folk step up. What we have now is confiscation of hard earned wages from hard working peepses to just be handed out to those who just can't do ... and them who doin the confiscatin is freeloadin POS too. This needs to be stopped ... at the local level, a tiny dent.

It seems to me that we cannot all be "free" without being "moral". Question is: whose morality is best for a free and fair system to operate within, if, indeed, we need a system at all. I, of course, believe God is the definer of true morality. The Bible convinces me that God is concerned about "economics" and just and fair balances and scales.

Of course we can. The very basic, freedom of choice. That an entity (high faluten peepses) exists to establish a standard of morality speaks again to a means of absolute control. One either adheres or one become absolutely controlled.

Nope, freedom of choice and folk of like mind congregate and standards not need be set. That a significant deviation from the norm occur suggests a "mind" is not in harmony with the group.

Freedom takes work. Work to maintain one's self discipline and work to counter outside efforts to impose and exploit,

Economics is the study of the production, distribution and consumption of wealth.

Economy / economics is a word created by "them". It's a measuring stick of harvesting the labors of wee peepses and how much of our labor wee are willing to exchange for goods and services. I remember G.W. sayin "don't be afraid, get out and spend, it's for the economy"!

God says that He has given us the power (or right?) to create wealth. My working definition of wealth is anything and everything made valuable by human effort.

Man said that Father "Said" this ... to what end?

Obviously, Capitalism is the proven method by which more wealth is created in a society or system. Capitalism seems to be a system where private property is "allowed" and subsequently protected by "government". Whereas Socialism is a system that does not allow private property, in that all things seemingly belong to everybody...

Let's not compare and contrast just yet. Let's stick to the wonderful "system" wee got goin on here now.

Capitalism, as it's currently employed in our society, is the epitome of exploitation of wee peepses. By definition it sounds like a good thing ... this needs to become another small "dent".

You know what IGA is right? Independent Grocers Association ... grocery stores? There aren't many left ... capitalism, protected by government. Who received the protection eh?

Even though our country was established on mostly capitalistic ideas,

Our country was established by our "founding fathers" because explorers discovered potential resources to be harvested, resources that belong to someone else. Colonization occurred under contract with the King which our founding fathers broke so we had our first civil war ( it was more of a war amongst the colonies).

I agree that the work required to return us to more Godly principles will be great, but so what? We need something to occupy our time....

Tiny dents my friend ....

O.W.