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    Default Washington state will keep Trump off the ballot unless he releases tax returns

    March 17, 2019

    Washington state will keep Trump off the ballot unless he releases tax returns

    By Rick Moran

    The Washington state Senate has passed a bill that would require candidates to release 5 years of tax returns before appearing on a primary or general election ballot.

    The law is aimed at Donald Trump who, so far, has declined to release any of his tax returns, despite every presidential candidate in the last 40 years who have done so.
    Democrats in Congress have made it clear that they will find a way to get Trump to release his taxes. But the reality is that no one can force an individual to release their tax returns.
    The Hill:
    "The disclosure requirement you propose is likely Constitutional," the two wrote to lawmakers, according to CBS, adding that the measure "would definitely be challenged in court."
    Democrats who supported the bill said the provision was necessary to force a return to norms surrounding the release of presidential candidates' tax returns.
    "Although releasing tax returns has been the norm for about the last 40 years in presidential elections, unfortunately we've seen that norm broken," said Sen. Patty Kuderer (D), who sponsored the bill, according to CBS.
    Republicans, however, argued that the state was getting into questionable territory by attempting to impose rules on a federal election.
    "We're on really risky ground when we're trying to place conditions on a federal election," said Sen. Hans Zeiger (R), according to CBS.
    Trump caused controversy throughout the 2016 campaign with his refusal to release his tax returns, claiming at the time to be under audit by the IRS. In recent weeks, Democrats in the House have indicated that they may pursue Trump's returns in the hopes of investigating the president's finances for criminal activity.
    A similar bill recently advanced in New Jersey's state Senate and is currently sitting in the state's General Assembly.
    Democrats are fond of reminding us recently that presidents are not above the law. This is very true. But it's also true that the law is not above them. Trump has a right to privacy regarding his tax returns, which cannot be released without the approval of the IRS commissioner:
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    Republicans, who have argued that Trump has the right to privacy, quickly made clear they believe any request from Democrats wouldn't be lawful -- opening up the possibility of an extended fight over whether Mnuchin will hand over the returns if a request is made.
    "This is a violation of the law," Republican Rep. Kevin Brady, the ranking member of the House Ways and Means Committee, said outside the hearing.
    "I believe Democrats are violating the law, and it sets a dangerous precedent," Brady added.
    In the hearing, Mnuchin also explicitly told House lawmakers that in no way has Trump asked him to intervene into the matter or held discussions about the issue with anyone inside the White House or with Trump's attorneys.
    When asked by California Democrat Jimmy Gomez whether Trump had asked him to intervene on the matter, Mnuchin said, "He has not."
    The tax writing committees of both the House and Senate apparently have the power to request Trump's tax returns from the commissioner. But they would have to have a darn good reason besides trying to embarrass the president.
    Trump has his own reasons for not releasing his tax returns. He doesn't need a reason at all. This fishing expedition by House Democrats should be challenged in court and the issue of presidential tax returns decided once and for all.



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    It isn't just Trump - it is all candidates. I have no problem with that. If you want to hold the levers of power, first show us which ones you are already connected to.


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    not a lawful requirement for federal offices. It will be struck down by constructional judges.

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    I read one interview that said in the future, the RNC will probably require tax returns to run for the nomination, so they don't have problems with this again.

    The interesting question is why is Trump so firm on hiding them, some theories:

    1. He's not very rich, possibly even underwater in debt (he sued one magazine writer for saying so, judge said 'Fine, just produce documentation of your wealth', lawsuit quietly dropped)

    2. After his many bankruptcies, Russia is the only one who would loan to him as part of their agenda (along with blackmail) to get control over powerful Americans. Which is why the FBI said to notify them if campaign is contacted by Russians, something Trump and gang neglected to do.

    3. He's scared of thousands of armchair tax experts pouring over them exposing every little crime on social media.

    With this guy, it's probably all three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solderguy View Post
    I read one interview that said in the future, the RNC will probably require tax returns to run for the nomination, so they don't have problems with this again.

    The interesting question is why is Trump so firm on hiding them, some theories:

    1. He's not very rich, possibly even underwater in debt (he sued one magazine writer for saying so, judge said 'Fine, just produce documentation of your wealth', lawsuit quietly dropped)

    2. After his many bankruptcies, Russia is the only one who would loan to him as part of their agenda (along with blackmail) to get control over powerful Americans. Which is why the FBI said to notify them if campaign is contacted by Russians, something Trump and gang neglected to do.

    3. He's scared of thousands of armchair tax experts pouring over them exposing every little crime on social media.

    With this guy, it's probably all three.
    You mean 2.5 years of Globalist searching and a 5 million dollar bounty have turned-up nothing but YOU have the evidence?
    Please, go back to Red-it

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    Quote Originally Posted by solderguy View Post
    I read one interview that said in the future, the RNC will probably require tax returns to run for the nomination, so they don't have problems with this again.

    The interesting question is why is Trump so firm on hiding them, some theories:

    1. He's not very rich, possibly even underwater in debt (he sued one magazine writer for saying so, judge said 'Fine, just produce documentation of your wealth', lawsuit quietly dropped)

    2. After his many bankruptcies, Russia is the only one who would loan to him as part of their agenda (along with blackmail) to get control over powerful Americans. Which is why the FBI said to notify them if campaign is contacted by Russians, something Trump and gang neglected to do.

    3. He's scared of thousands of armchair tax experts pouring over them exposing every little crime on social media.

    With this guy, it's probably all three.
    But does any of it really matter.Trump May have an ego problem if he isn’t as wealthy as many believe.So what .
    The sad fact is no one ever elected to office has been attacked this much and it started before day one.
    The FBI and the Obama administration should be investigated for trying to first control and then change the outcome of a legitimate election.That shouldn’t happen in a free society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyb View Post
    But does any of it really matter.Trump May have an ego problem if he isn’t as wealthy as many believe.So what .
    The sad fact is no one ever elected to office has been attacked this much and it started before day one.
    The FBI and the Obama administration should be investigated for trying to first control and then change the outcome of a legitimate election.That shouldn’t happen in a free society.
    Your talking to yourself, again
    They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
    “As a general rule, the earlier you recognize someone is trying to kill you, the better off you’ll be.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyb View Post
    But does any of it really matter.Trump May have an ego problem if he isn’t as wealthy as many believe.So what .
    It matters a lot if Trump does Russia's bidding because they have financial blackmail over him. This hasn't been proven, but Trump makes no effort to disprove it either.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyb View Post
    The sad fact is no one ever elected to office has been attacked this much and it started before day one.
    Trump started his administration with unhinged lies about an inauguration crowd size bigger than Obama's (easily disproved with photographs), and claiming he would have won the popular vote except for 3 million illegal alien voters he never provided proof about. Plus claiming Hillary committed crimes and then firing Comey for investigating her. A president who doesn't act rationally should be attacked. He just sent 29 tweets in one day including such important matters as how Saturday Night Live ridiculing him should be outlawed (the ultimate in being a snowflake).

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyb View Post
    The FBI and the Obama administration should be investigated for trying to first control and then change the outcome of a legitimate election.That shouldn’t happen in a free society.
    Republicans had full control of government for two years and never investigated, so they're either complicit, incompetent, or there's nothing to find. Pick one.
    Last edited by solderguy; 03-18-2019 at 01:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solderguy View Post
    It matters a lot if Trump does Russia's bidding because they have financial blackmail over him. This hasn't been proven, but Trump makes no effort to disprove it either.


    Trump started his administration with unhinged lies about an inauguration crowd size bigger than Obama's (easily disproved with photographs), and claiming he would have won the popular vote except for 3 million illegal alien voters he never provided proof about. Plus claiming Hillary committed crimes and then firing Comey for investigating her. A president who doesn't act rationally should be attacked. He just sent 29 tweets in one day including such important matters as how Saturday Night Live ridiculing him should be outlawed (the ultimate in being a snowflake).


    Republicans had full control of government for two years and never investigated, so they're either complicit, incompetent, or there's nothing to find. Pick one.
    Here’s the problem Trump is not doing anything for Russia since elected I am sure of that.
    Obama by sucking the FBI and IRS on people he didn’t agree with should have been removed from office.That is a totalitarian regime..
    The Clintons have something that keeps them safe,no idea what but no one period could pull the crap they have and stay out of jail..
    And yes they had two years to fix things just like Obama did and nothing happened in either administration until they lost full control.
    I think that’s the scariest part of it all and it makes you wonder just who really is in charge.

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    When was the Constitution amended to require candidates for president to release their income tax returns? Did I miss something?
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