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    A Review of
    Sacred Conviction: The South’s Stand for Biblical Authority
    (Shotwell Publishing, 201 by Joseph Jay

    Shotwell Publishing and author Joseph Jay have produced a wonderful short study of the theological divisions that existed between Northern and Southern churches in the antebellum period, and its contribution as a cause of the War Between the States. Many people are familiar with the divisions that occurred in some American Denominations caused by the issues of slavery and abolition, but they may be less familiar with the context of the debate at the time and its subsequent ramifications beyond denominational splits, making Jay’s work one of importance in my opinion. In the preface
    to Sacred Conviction
    Joseph Jay writes:

    Much Ink has been spilled on the constitutionality of secession, the Fugitive Slave Act, protectionist tariffs, and the abolitionist movement. As a result, the conflict is often cast as “the commercial North against the agrarian South,” “Puritans against Cavaliers,” “centralization against State’s rights,” and of course “freedom against slavery.” In our own day and age, the issue may well be summarized by younger Americans as “equality against inequality.” While many of these re-tellings have some truth to them, they tend to ignore one vitally important element – theology.


    With that the stage is set for an intriguing historical look at British-American Christianity from the colonial period up until the mid-nineteenth century, with an emphasis on the degeneration of fundamental Christian orthodoxy among the descendants of the New England Puritans. The cover art of
    Sacred Conviction: The South’s Stand for Biblical Authority
    depicts St. Michael’s Episcopal Church Charleston, S.C. (in the foreground one can also see the old Catholic Cathedral of St John & St. Finbar). St. Michael’s is a colonial era Anglican/Episcopal Church dating back to the 1760’s. This was the Church where President George Washington worshiped while staying in Charleston, and was also frequented by Robert E. Lee while stationed there in the early period of the War Between the States, prior to his taking command of the Army of Northern Virginia. On a personal note I can say that this church was regularly attended by my eighth great-uncle’s family (The Bull family of Ashley Hall Plantation) from the year the church was built until the family estate was destroyed at the time of Sherman’s march through Georgia and South Carolina in 1864.


    St. Michael’s remains to this day a solid confessional Anglican Church body, still subscribing to the Ecumenical Creeds and Thirty-Nine Articles of the Church of England. Thus St. Michael’s is representative of the survival of traditional Christian orthodoxy in the American South. South Carolina is home to other notable confessional church bodies in the old mainline denominations, for example First Presbyterian of Columbia, the home church of the great theologian, Rev. Dr. James Henley Thornwell (1812-1862), which stands as a paragon of confessional and evangelical conservatism in the Reformed ecclesial tradition.

    In contrast to St. Michael’s, let us momentarily look at another colonial era church with some connection with my ancestors. The First (Congregational) Church in Boston was founded by Governor John Winthrop’s original Boston settlement in 1630. The Puritan Anglican’s in England who felt strongly enough to become “separatists” Puritan’s and form the British Colony of Massachusetts, were at first staunchly dedicated to the doctrines of the Protestant Reformation and would have obviously defended the authority of Holy Scripture, sometimes referred to in Reformation parlance as
    Sola Scriptura
    . My 7
    th
    Great-Grandfather, Richard Holden, was from Groton, Suffolk, England, which was the village of John Winthrop’s family Manor. Richard was acquainted with Winthrop, and probably Rev. John Wilson who was an Anglican minister at Sudbury about eight miles away. Rev. Wilson would become the original Pastor of First Church in Boston after sailing with the Winthrop Fleet to New England in 1630. Richard Holden would follow Winthrop in 1634 and ultimately settle in the namesake of his village in England, Groton, Mass. (later generations of my Holden forebears would move south and west). No doubt Richard, and other of my ancestors, sat at The First Church in Boston listening to fiery Calvinistic sermons by his old neighbor John Wilson, or perhaps the associate Pastor, Rev. John Cotton, the onetime Vicar of St. Botolph’s in Boston, Lincolnshire, who had spent years as a conformist Anglican Puritan before finally relenting to separate and join Winthrop and other friends of his in New England in 1634. Cotton was a sort of absentee delegate at the Westminster Assembly 1643, during the time of the Commonwealth, and sent letters advocating the newly formed teaching of “Congregational Church government” as a replacement of Episcopal or Presbyterian Church polity (which suggestion was rejected by the Convention). Besides ecclesiastical polity, what we might call essential doctrinal disputations were not at stake. As a matter of fact, if Archbishop of Canterbury, William Laud, had not been particularly cracking down on Puritan clerics within the Church in the days of Charles I, Rev. John Cotton would probably have never joined Massachusetts Colony

    Within two generations of this time the ultra Calvinism of the New England Puritans was waning, and doomed to be entirely extinguished. While officially the Congregationalist Puritans in New England subscribed to the doctrinal portions of the Westminster Standards (formally adopting them at the Cambridge Synod of 164, congregational church governance effectively led them to the ominous final verse of the Book of Judges. There was no ecclesial authority holding the churches accountable. As David J. Engelsma describes this fundamental theological problem in his review article
    The Cambridge Platform: A Reformed Option?
    , “[congregational government] denies the kingship of Christ over the church in its two basic respects: rule over the congregation by a body of elders and authority over the united congregations in prescribed areas by an authoritative synod” (Protestant Reformed Theological Journal XXIX, 1995)

    Scriptural authority was no longer central to Congregational teaching or preaching by the mid-eighteenth century, and it was not only the so-called five points of Calvinism, or even the
    FiveSolas
    of the Reformation, that were at stake but the doctrines of: the atonement, the virgin birth of Messiah, and the Holy Trinity. The ancient Creeds of the Church Universal linking Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and Protestant alike were being questioned or denied. In short, the noble protestant savage of New England, with his Bible alone in hand, was becoming a Unitarian.

    By the time of the Great Awakening many New England Congregational Churches had lapsed into Unitarianism and Universalism. Indeed, that fact was the reason an “awakening” was even warranted. It is also worth noting that, other than the Congregationalist preacher Jonathan Edwards and Presbyterian Samuel Davies (a minister virtually unknown to Yankees), most of the influential awakening ministers were not home grown colonials but Anglican’s from England. So what of First Church Boston – where the Westminster Standards had once been heralded and confessed? Universalist preacher, Charles Chauncy, became Pastor of First Church Boston in 1727 and ministered there until his death in 1787. Joseph Jay writes in chapter One of
    Sacred Conviction
    (pg. 5)

    Educators like Joseph Stevens Buckminster infiltrated Northern Universities, ushering in an era of German Higher Criticism. Harvard University itself went Unitarian with the election of Reverend Henry Ware as Hollis Professor of Divinity in 1805, an event that “not only [made it] the seat of liberalism but also, by necessity, the seat of anti-Calvinism.” Even the First Church in Boston, founded by John Winthrop, became Unitarian under the guidance of Jonathan Edwards’s opponent, Charles Chauncy.

    The descendants of the Puritans retained their pharisaical self-righteous bent, but began to transfer their religious fervor toward secular issues. The conviction that once led to sermons against donning vestments at chapel, and their zeal for burning witches was now filtered through the materialism of Hobbes and the empiricism of Hume and Lock. Social causes, closely linked with the radical egalitarian views of the French Revolution, often became the new dogma of the apostate Yankee; while even the traditionally non conformist/dissenter churches of the South (e.g. Baptists) were more or less traditionally orthodox in their Christian expressions

    This division widened as political debates driven by regional and economic concerns in the United States began to take on themselves a religious character through the writings and preachers of Northern Abolitionists. And as Jay states that there “is no doubt the gospel preached by the evangelical abolitionists was not the traditional gospel of orthodox Christianity” (pg. 66). At the risk of generalization, the Northern abolitionist condemned the institution of slavery as an inherently sinful and wicked institution, while giving the slave trade a pass, as it was a staple of New England commerce. Southerners tended to have the opposite view. Southern clerics did not find any wholesale prohibition on the institution of bond labour in Holy Scripture, although they confessed that every social and political enterprise was tainted by sin and in a fallen condition; while they did find biblical mandates opposing the slave trade (Exodus 21:16; 1 Timothy 1:9-10) much to the chagrin on Yankee venture-capitalists more than willing to profit by slavery as long as they did not have to live in the environment themselves.

    While abolitionists used the image of redemption in Christ as a political and material redemption, Southrons objected to this as an aberration from the orthodox understanding of the fallen nature of sinful man being justified before a Holy God. These factors contributed to a turbulent theological division that ultimately split many denominations.

    Another issue addressed in the book is done so under the heading “The Slave as Human” (pg. 31) and deals with the impact of Darwinism on Yankee ideology. While Hollywood has attempted to reverse the rolls on this subject, historical evidence is clear. Pop culture would brand Southerners as the racists who questioned the full humanity of their sometime subservient, but Jay reveals that it was rather in the North where a growing belief in human evolution from lower forms was impacting social understanding of their newly developing race theory. He cites several Northern scientists who claimed that they had “proved” that blacks were a separate species than whites (pg. 32). It was often scientific and eugenic concerns that drove abolitionist activism in the mission to eliminate the slave-system and deport the former slaves, as they saw both free and bond Negroes as a threat to racial purity. It was from Southern pulpits and publishers that opposition to the growing Darwinian consensus was most loudly voiced. Clergyman such as the Rev. J. H. Thornwell were outspoken against these liberal theologians and scientists insisting upon the full humanity of Africans on a Scriptural understanding: “The Negro is of one blood [Acts 17:26} with ourselves – that he has sinned as we have, and that he has an equal interest with us in the great redemption …We are not ashamed to call him our brother” (Pg.33). One can almost feel the Yankee ridicule for a deplorable, such as Thornwell, clinging to his Bible and guns.

    Joseph Jay summarizes the Northern humanistic utopianism at odds with Southern traditionalism stating: “The war came down to a fight over two visions of reality – the world in which man creates an earthly paradise on the one hand, or the world in which men await a heavenly reward on the other” (pg. 79).




    David Hackett Fischer gives a relevant anecdote when speaking of Bruton Parish Anglican Church, in his 1989 tome
    Albion’s Seed
    (pg. 335): “The baptismal font is said to have been brought from the old church at Jamestown; George Washington stood as godfather to at least fourteen slaves who were baptized here.” Here is an image of the American tradition, such as it is, written large – warts and all: George Washington, Father of our country, standing in Bruton Church at Williamsburg, indeed at the old font originally from Jamestown, in the role of baptismal sponsor for 14 slaves as they were received into Christian fellowship.
    ''... I believe that the maintenance of the rights and authority reserved to the states and to the people...are a safeguard to the continuance of a free government...whereas the consolidation of the states into one vast Republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded it.''- Gen. Robert E. Lee

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    Timeline

    1735: Carolus Linnaeus, a Swedish scientist, published Systema Naturae, which includes the common modern naming system of binomial nomenclature, or the naming of species with two names (i.e. Homo sapiens, for humans).
    1767: Georges Cuvier, a highly respected French scientist, was born, He is known as the father of Paleontology. Also well known for his denial of any sort of evolutionary theory, by his study of the fossil record.
    1795: James Hutton, a Scottish scientist and physician, published a set of theories explaining the geology of the Earth, among them the concept of geologic (or "deep") time, and that the Earth gradually changes over time.
    1798: Thomas Robert Malthus publishes the first edition of "An Essay on the Principle of Population." After much refinement, the 6th edition of this book was cited by Charles Darwin and Alfred Russel Wallace in development of the theory of natural selection. He theorized that continued population growth would outgrow current resources.
    1809: Jean-Baptiste Lamarck, a French naturalist, published his theory of evolution. His theory was that evolution occurred through the inheritance of acquired characteristics, or the use/disuse theory.
    1830: Charles Lyell publishes "Principles of Geology." This pushed a uniformitarian view of geology, or the theory that forces in the past are the same as forces in the present, and that we can use the forces present today to infer things about the past.
    1831: Charles Darwin, then very young and still a student, joins the voyage of the HMS Beagle as a naturalist.
    1844: Charles Darwin, working for many years, writes an essay on the theory of evolution. This was never published.
    1858: Alfred Russel Wallace publishes a paper coming to some of the same conclusions as Darwin, including natural selection. Darwin's friends present both Wallace's and Darwin's theories at the Linnean Society.
    1859: Darwin, suffering from sickness both in himself and his family, finishes his book "The Origin of Species" and publishes it. It becomes wildly popular.
    1865: Mendel's works with pea plants published, setting the background for the basis of natural selection.
    1892: August Weismann publishes findings detailing how important DNA is to heredity, along with germ cell theory - the theory that inheritance only takes place by means of germ cells such as egg and sperm, and that other cells do not pass on their genes.
    1903: Walter Sutton proposed that chromosomes were the basis for Mendelian inheritance of characteristics.
    1943: DNA is proven to be the genetic material by which inheritance passes from one generation to the next, and thus is the blueprint for evolution. (1952 Dr, Crick and Co. discover the double helix DNA strand, and realize it disproves Evolution)

    Unitarian Universalism was formed from the consolidation in 1961 of two historically separate Christian denominations, the Universalist Church of America and the American Unitarian Association,[10] both based in the United States; the new organization formed in this merger was the Unitarian Universalist Association.[14] At the time of the North American consolidation, Unitarians and Universalists had expanded beyond their roots in liberal Christian theology. Today they draw from a variety of religious traditions. Individuals may or may not self-identify as Christians or subscribe to Christian beliefs.[15] Unitarian Universalist congregations and fellowships tend to retain some Christian traditions, such as Sunday worship with a sermon and the singing of hymns. The extent to which the elements of any particular faith tradition are incorporated into personal spiritual practice is a matter of individual choice for congregants, in keeping with a creedless, non-dogmatic approach to spirituality and faith development.[16]New England Unitarians evolved from the Pilgrim Fathers' Congregational Christianity, which was originally based on a literal reading of the Holy Bible. Liberalizing Unitarians rejected the Trinitarian belief in the tri-personal godhead: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost/Spirit. Instead, they asserted a unitary notion of God. In addition, they rejected the doctrine of original sin, moving away from the Calvinism of the Congregationalists.[17]New England Universalists rejected the Puritan forefathers' emphasis on the select few, the Elect, who were supposed to be saved from eternal damnation by a just God. Instead Universalists asserted that all people will eventually be reconciled with God .[17] Universalists rejected the hellfire and damnation of the evangelical preachers, who tried to revive the fundamentalist Christianity of the early Pilgrim fathers.[18]
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    Yup, Southerners were more Christian, and Christlike, because they loved keeping Blacks as slaves.

    Yes, the Civil War Was About Slavery

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bezukhov View Post
    Yup, Southerners were more Christian, and Christlike, because they loved keeping Blacks as slaves.

    Yes, the Civil War Was About Slavery

    http://civilwarbaptists.com/featured/slavery/

    No cute video?

    You totally missed the OP, and the supporting documentation. What was obvious in the OP was the total difference in views between the North and South. And it wasn't about slavery. If you really need, just got to have, I can provide you a library of material that says otherwise. I say that because there will be a truck load of it.

    From the 1863 Draft Riots in NYC, to the Yankee Generals who owned slaves themselves, or were in their household due to FIL providing for their daughters. To the 16th President-Lincoln who never wanted to put black people-free, or slave, on the same footing as white, to his VP Andrew Johnson:

    In October 1859, abolitionist
    John Brown
    and sympathizers
    raided the federal arsenal
    at
    Harpers Ferry
    , Virginia (today West Virginia). Tensions in Washington between pro- and anti-slavery forces increased greatly. Johnson gave a major speech in the Senate in December,
    decrying Northernerswho would endanger the Union by seeking to outlaw slavery
    . The Tennessee senator stated that "all men are created equal" from the
    Declaration of Independence
    did not apply to African Americans, since the
    Constitution of Illinois
    contained that phrase—and that document barred voting by African Americans.
    [78][79]
    Johnson, by this time, was a wealthy man who owned a few household slaves,
    [80]
    14 slaves, according to the 1860 Federal Census.
    [81]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew...cession_crisis

    I might add that his slaves were never freed by Johnson, but rather Johnson who was a Southern Unionist (and slave owner) was appointed by Lincoln as the Military General Governor of TN, the Confederates confiscated his land, and slaves, in 1862.

    BTW if the WAR was about slavery, then why did Lincoln only abolish slavery in 10 of the SOUTHERN REBEL states, which were no longer under his control they had seceded, with his Emancipation Proclamation EO 95, and allow the practice to continue in the NORTH, which were under his control?

    I can answer that for you. It wasn't about slavery.
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