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    Default Measles, Back In The Days Before The Marketing Of The Vaccine

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    It is easier to be stoic about illness when you can't do anything about it. I feel much the same about chicken pox. I was born too late for measles to be common growing up, but chicken pox was not yet a vaccinated disease, so everybody just had to go through it. Not a big deal, but it wasn't exactly a fun experience either and it left me with some scars on my face. I would have preferred to avoid it if possible. I have to laugh a bit when I read about people freaking out because there has been a chicken pox outbreak at a school, because it was so normal in my childhood. Still, that doesn't mean that we shouldn't work to protect the weakest members of our society when we can, particularly when doing so has an extremely low cost and a lower risk than doing nothing.


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    We have made it worse if there is an outbreak.
    When measles, chicken pox and mumps were common, everybody got them and was immune.

    Now, no one has been exposed and the effect will be a lot worse.

    I believe measles was one of the things we used to kill Indians.
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    “Vaccinations” weaken the homo sapien gene pool, at best.

    Not a good idea in the wild, not a good idea for longevity of species on the domestic side......unless you are farming (exploiting ?) a species for profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davy Crockett View Post
    We have made it worse if there is an outbreak.
    When measles, chicken pox and mumps were common, everybody got them and was immune.

    Now, no one has been exposed and the effect will be a lot worse.

    I believe measles was one of the things we used to kill Indians.
    That makes no sense Davy, by the very definition, you become immune.

    This actually proves the effectiveness and efficiency of the vaccine, we do not have people who have been vaccinated becoming ill, just those who were not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel Adams View Post
    “Vaccinations” weaken the homo sapien gene pool, at best.

    Not a good idea in the wild, not a good idea for longevity of species on the domestic side......unless you are farming (exploiting ?) a species for profit.
    Can you kindly provide the evidence?

    Perhaps those evil Polio shots should be taken away.

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    Not that it would matter to you, Pat, but the Greek word from which Scripture’s “sorcery”’is derived, is “pharmaceutica”.

    What evidence could I possibly provide that would convince anyone so institutionalized that keeping the weak alive at all costs is not conducive to herd strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel Adams View Post
    “Vaccinations” weaken the homo sapien gene pool, at best.

    Not a good idea in the wild, not a good idea for longevity of species on the domestic side......unless you are farming (exploiting ?) a species for profit.
    Sure, this is true to some extent, but implicit in this argument is that it would be better for human evolution if a lot more of us died of these diseases than it would be for us to use our brains to solve the problem. So, from that standpoint, you might make the same argument about any tool. Throw away all technology because it makes us weaker, even if it makes us more capable. Think how much stronger we would be if we had no cars and had to run everywhere. An obvious win for the species if you restrict your analysis narrowly enough.


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    The Tarahumara would agree with you, as would Wendell Berry.

    The current difference between tools and vaccines is what the “farmers” intend to soon force upon the “exploited”.

    Forced vaccinations are the antithesis to Liberty, and the opportunity for the 51 to force upon the 49 a dream come true for socialist tyranny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel Adams View Post
    Not that it would matter to you, Pat, but the Greek word from which Scripture’s “sorcery”’is derived, is “pharmaceutica”.

    What evidence could I possibly provide that would convince anyone so institutionalized that keeping the weak alive at all costs is not conducive to herd strength.
    I assumed you were old enough to know that those pictures of Iron Lungs weren't photo shopped.

    Keeping the weak alive has nothing to do with it, and you bloody well know it.

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