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The Prophecy aspect is 100% accurate to date. Fantasy, hardly. But yes, your team has the police state in good shape going into the days ahead. At the end of the day, it appears you are the one who will miss the biggest party of all time.....there's still hope.Originally Posted by Mugwump
Educate others to grow our base of informed citizens, it's tyranny. Spread the Gospel.
Prepare wisely individually. An army runs on it's stomach.
Network with those who prepare wisely and take advantage of the strength in numbers and the economy of scale.
Then, when the curtains come down and the truth is evident to an informed citizenry, we unite and fight the new world order.
Judge
Nearly two thousand years ago God revealed to us that one day there will be a system that will used to control every individual's ability to buy and sell. For the first time in history this is now possible.
This prophecy and all scripture is given to us by God so we might believe on his Son Jesus Christ.
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Oh, so you agree with this interpretation, do you? I wonder if you have any idea how many people have wasted their time trying to connect biblical prophecy to current events only to have NONE of their predictions come true. Do you have any reason to think that the current batch of Revelation "experts" have any greater insight into Scripture than the others who have been making similar predictions for the last 2000 years? The one thing that's easily predictable is that this one will come to nothing as well, and the next one and the next one after that.
Martin Luther originally considered that John's revelation shouldn't be given the same status as the Gospels or Paul's letters, based on a rather sensible criterion: that it doesn't reveal anything and nobody knows how to interpret it. Then in later life he gave in to temptation and tried his own hand at the game, making a few ill-considered interpretations/predictions of his own about the end being nigh. They also came to nothing, of course.
Congressman
Luther was a heretic of the highest order.
"The one who says he stays in Him is indebted to walk, even as He walked." 1Jn 2:6
Without Torah, His walk is impossible - it's Rome's walk without Torah.
Judge
As objects get closer, they are more clearly seen. So too with prophecy. However, even though we are two thousand years nearer these coming events, we still see through a glass darkly.
Consider this and look it up yourself. The word translated into the English "mark" in the book of Revelation is the Greek word "charagma". The word "charagma" means "scratch" or "etching".
Computer chips are manufactured using an etching process.
Computer chips are now being implanted in people.
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Well, for the last 2000 years there have been a whole lot of other people who have identified their own theological and secular enemies as being the Antichrist. For a couple of hundred years most Protestants were pretty sure that the Pope was the Antichrist. Christians have historically had an unfortunate habit of using this particular book to attack whoever they're mad at at the time and to spin revenge fantasies and to stir up their faithful.
What makes you think your interpretation is any more likely to be correct than previous ones? You know, it could be that the Antichrist or the Beast will actually be a race of alien beings who come to earth with superior technology. That would render much of the imagery a lot more sensible, too--there's a beast with seven heads and ten horns, etc. Sort of like the aliens who show up on the Simpsons' "Treehouse of Horror" episodes.
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We're just overrun with orthodox theologians around here. Do tell: what makes Luther a heretic?
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That's an extremely forced and artificial reading. The problem is that anybody can put such stuff together after the fact to justify their own ideas. A feminist friend of mine once airily told me that women should have dominion because "he" is contained in "she." I pointed out to her that "condom" was contained in "condominium" and asked her what she made of that.
With respect, if you're spending your days constructing such silly confirmations of your own quirky eschatology, I'd say you've got too much time on your hands and a poor idea of how best to employ it to good use. People who can't make any useful or accurate predictions about the next five years--and none of us can--have no business trying to puzzle out the end of the world. IMO the Big Man in the Sky would probably prefer that you apply yourself to something more directly useful for your fellow beings, and leave the heavenly host to grind out the end of the world on their own time in their own way.
Congressman
Where to begin with this nutjob?
The so-called leader of the so-called Protestant "protesters" says to sin boldly, let your sins be strong!
13."If you are a preacher of Grace, then preach a true, not a fictitious grace; if grace is true, you must bear a true and not a fictitious sin. God does not save people who are only fictitious sinners. Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly. For he is victorious over sin, death, and the world. As long as we are here we have to sin. This life in not the dwelling place of righteousness but, as Peter says, we look for a new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. . . . Pray boldly-you too are a mighty sinner." (Weimar ed. vol. 2, p. 371; Letters I, "Luther's Works," American Ed., Vol 48. p. 281- 282)
13. If you are a preacher of mercy, do not preach an imaginary but the true mercy. If the mercy is true, you must therefore bear the true, not an imaginary sin. God does not save those who are only imaginary sinners. Be a sinner, and let your sins be strong, but let your trust in Christ be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the victor over sin, death, and the world. We will commit sins while we are here, for this life is not a place where justice resides. We, however, says Peter (2. Peter 3:13) are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth where justice will reign. It suffices that through God's glory we have recognized the Lamb who takes away the sin of the world. No sin can separate us from Him, even if we were to kill or commit adultery thousands of times each day. Do you think such an exalted Lamb paid merely a small price with a meager sacrifice for our sins? Pray hard for you are quite a sinner.
Get to sinning, eh? Heretic.
First he loved the Jews...then he turned heretic on them also...you can get a taste of that here...and many other places...
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/a...ewish-problem/
"The one who says he stays in Him is indebted to walk, even as He walked." 1Jn 2:6
Without Torah, His walk is impossible - it's Rome's walk without Torah.
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Back in the earliest days of the church, all the various factions and sects had a three-century-long free-for-all in which everybody called everybody else heretics, excommunicated each other, and often things came down to blows and assassinations as one side or the other tried to take control of the institutional church. This basically destroyed the unity of Christianity forever afterward. Then came the bigger schism, and the Catholics and the Orthodox squared off. Then along comes the Reformation, and the Protestants hate the Catholics, the Catholics hate the Protestants, the Calvinists hate the Lutherans, the Lutherans hate the Calvinists, and on it goes.
When I was in college campuses were rife with various fringe left-wing groups. You had your Spartacus League and your Young Socialists, not to be confused with the Socialist Workers' Party, and the Revolutionary Communist Party, and on and on and on. They engaged in bitter ideological battles about which nobody but each other gave a damn. But they all needed each other in order to make a case that they mattered at all. The sensible people outside this inefficacious left-wing bubble generally figured--correctly, I would say--that the whole the damn bunch of them were a bunch of unpleasant attention-seeking asshats whose primary object was to aggrandize themselves by blathering about what the revolution should and would look like, and how only THEY understood the historic inevitability of it all and how THEY should be the vanguard party to whom the ovine prolectariat should flock and follow to everlasting victory, and damning everybody else as counter-revolutionaries who pawns of the ruling class and traitors to the proletariat whom they were leading astray with their false ideology.
As for your blast at Luther, well, I guess I'll have to shrug that off in the same way. Cardinal Richelieu understood the strategy and was really quite open about it, which is something most of those who employ it are not:
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