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    Default To Bethel's Bleating Sheep... Here's How To Know WHEN To Start Counting--

    Of course, to ‘see’ anything in the WORD, one needs to be willing to take off the bethel blindfold that they have willingly donned, and STUDY. Soon you can realize that you CAN see, all by simply holding hands with the ONE who is teaching. AKA, JESUS CHRIST, who has promised all of “we the sheep“---

    John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. (KJV)

    So, that said here it is:
    Dan 12:11-13 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.” (KJV)

    So, to actually start counting the days till the end, all we need to know is how to determine WHAT this mysterious ‘daily sacrifice’ actually is, right? Because then we can start counting for real.

    Well, beloved, your friendly sheep thieves of bethel of course knew this from the get-go, and in order to maintain your allegiance to their ‘mystery god’ (and, of course, your cash), they have obfuscated the knowledge about this ‘daily sacrifice’ by many nefarious means. AND, dear ones, you have bought most of them with your hard earned cash, as well as your deceived mind (AKA bottomless pit). Time to wake up, eh?

    For example, all those ‘our fathers’, ‘hail marys’, sundry bead rattlings, rupture theories (you don’t need to know, you will be snatched away), rolling on the floor shouting turkey gobbles, handling snakes, getting re-baptized or re-sprinkled every sunday, Scofield fables, and the like. Oh, and for sure lets not forget the endless and lengthy ’tracts’ and quotes posted by bethel which relay the current ’interpretation’ of the many babblings of some ’pious saint’.

    Those are just a very few of multitudes. Had enough yet?

    Beloved, I’m sure it will come as quite the surprise to most that although the English word ‘sacrifice’ is used 6 times in Daniel -- ONLY ONCE is it actually there. In Dan 9:27. That is the verse that is all about Jesus, for only He could accomplish the deeds described.

    Isn’t it interesting that bethel and their many denominational associates has convinced you that it’s the antichrist that is being described there? LOL. Uhh, bethel, don’t look now, but your pants are on fire…

    ‘’Sacrifice’ is only there ONCE in Dan. Look at the definition: 2077 zebach (zeh'-bakh); from 2076; properly, a slaughter, i.e. the flesh of an animal; by implication, a sacrifice (the victim or the act): KJV-- offer (-ing), sacrifice. -- It is from the root word: 2076 zabach (zaw-bakh'); a primitive root; to slaughter an animal (usually in sacrifice): KJV-- kill, offer, (do) sacrifice, slay.

    This ONE mention proves that it is Christ being spoken of, for HE alone is the perfect (and last) sacrifice for all time.

    Now, bethel has convinced you otherwise ON PURPOSE by saying ‘well, of course it is the a.c., because he is going to rebuild the stone temple so he can have a place to sit’. This in spite of the very plain words of Jesus when he said “it is left to you desolate, with not one stone on top of another”
    Don’t be deceived, for what the LORD desolates, it is desolate forever. It aint coming back. He built the new ’temple’ Himself. YE are the temple of God. (1cor 3:16 and 2cor 6:16) but, yes, the a.c. still ‘sits’ there (in your bottomless pit). Keep him chained. LOL

    If you are still confused, tour a few current threads on this board. You will find what I mean by ‘bethel’ and it’s devastating false idea of the ‘seven last times’, as well as what the ‘daily’ is… or at least what ours SHOULD BE.

    Now, the other 5 times in Dan, where the English word ‘sacrifice’ is found, is:

    9999 inserted word (x); This word was added by the translators for better readability in the English. There is no actual word in the Hebrew text. The word may be displayed in italics, or in parentheses or other brackets, to indicate that it is not in the original text.

    BUT… the word “daily” IS in all five of them. Here is the definition:

    8548 tamiyd (taw-meed'); from an unused root meaning to stretch; properly, continuance (as indefinite extension); but used only (attributively as adjective) constant (or adverbially, constantly); ellipt. the regular (daily) sacrifice: KJV-- alway (-s), continual (employment, -ly), daily, ([n-]) ever (-more), perpetual.

    Now, what SHOULD be obvious to the most casual observer, is that BLOOD sacrifice in Daniel is mentioned in the only place that matters--- The LORD GOD giving his all for the sheep. Dan 9:27. When it actually happened 2000 years or so ago, it was THE LAST. Get it?

    Now, assuming you still want to come out of bethel Babylon, and want to actually know when to start counting the 1335 days, stay tuned to this thread. Be sure to bring your spiritual flyswatter with you though, for I can hear bethel’s loud buzzing as they approach. I can ignore them if you can,

    More coming….

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    No, beloved in the Lord, I am not ‘picking’ on Catholics, nor singling out any other ‘denomination’. For all of we sheep are CONTINUOUS sinners, and need our “DAILY” visit with the Lord. As we will plainly see after a few more posts in this thread, it is this ‘daily’ visit with our Lord, Jesus, that will be taken away, in all methods that are outwardly expressed. It will be removed, not by we sheep, but by ‘bethel’, and physically enforced by the great king, the UN. The prophets are all in agreement that such will come.

    Amos 6:10 Then one's uncle, or his undertaker, will lift him up to carry out {his} bones from the house, and he will say to the one who is in the innermost part of the house, "Is anyone else with you?" And that one will say, "No one." Then he will answer, "Keep quiet. For the name of the LORD is not to be mentioned." Such is coming here, soon.

    Now, “bethel” has followed the same trail as has always been used. They have married themselves intimately to the political kings of the earth, and we sheep have been following them RELIGIOUSLY. This is easily proven by merely noticing…

    The ‘denominations’ are in fact, Corporations-- ie, legal fictions. ALL, for example are 501C3 compliant entities. For them to enjoy this tax free status they must comply with certain ‘laws’ of their king of mammon, and they so do. Such declarations as abiding by government laws that directly oppose the laws of the Lord, like they not condemning homosexuality, pedophilia, adultery, killing of the unborn, and a myriad of such like PC trash.

    As their reward, bethel daily displays the blessings of their true king with their magnificence and richness in their cathedrals, rich attire, giant congregations and jet airplanes. Almost daily in the current news, another scandal breaks in bethel. Catholics are BY NO MEANS worse than the rest of bethel, but due to their much larger and widespread organization, they are not as adept at hiding their deeds. In all of this, it is not the sheep that are found wanting, except that they are being destroyed by their lack of knowledge and blind adherence to their opulent ‘pastors‘ .

    With that thought , hopefully clarified, let us continue…

    That the books of Daniel and Revelation are inseparably linked, is demonstrated in the ‘times‘. For example the 1290 days of Dan 12 has been demonstrated to equal the sum of the 1150 days of ‘daily sacrifices’ in Dan and the 140 days (5 ‘mens’) of Rev 9. See, c.f.

    Now, all can plainly see that Rev ch 11 is THE END. Likewise, Rev 6 described THE END. That we did not see this plainly, the Lord gave us Chapters 7-10 to ‘fill in the blanks‘, repeated the END in Ch 11, and then gave us chapters 12-19 to ‘fill in more blanks’.
    We will focus for now on Rev 11, and draw on the ‘blank filling’ chapters as necessary.

    An overview of chapter 11 declares the following. First, The Lord ‘measured’ his temple.
    (YE are the temple of God). He then selects his warriors. (witnesses- YE are my witnesses, saith the Lord). Important to note here is that these are many, not 2 individuals, but 2 ecclesia. (see, c.f.

    They are selected in the first part of Rev ch 7, and in 7:14, are declared to be ’those who came out of great tribulation, ie this the final battle’ and were murdered by the ‘beast’ (Rev 11: 7, and have overcome. Yet again, we see them presented for honor in Rev 20:4

    In Rev 11: vv 9&10, we see also the rejoicing of bethel and the multitudes at their demise. It will be a worldwide bloodletting, a mass murder, ala the Roman Coliseum, this time made visible to the whole world, possibly by TV.

    No, not ALL Christians will be eliminated. As in the days of the Coliseum tribulation, many will be gathered together in the ‘catacombs’. In any war, not all stand and fight, for some must provide and deliver provisions. These are, in this case, the prayer warriors.

    But, the murder by bethel and the beasts will be so complete and horrible to the senses as to cause Christ himself to ask the question…
    Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth? (KJV)

    Now is a good time to ask of bethel’s rupture proponents…. Where are you during this time? It does seem that the Lord’s chosen are all front and center confronting the beast, or hiding in the ’catacombs’ and praying. Since these are obviously Christians whom the Lord loves, and were sealed long before the event, where are you? Where is your bethel pastors of saint Scofield? ‘Nuff said.

    Now, re the ‘signs’ to start counting I mentioned. It is fairly obvious that when you see the mass murder of the witnesses there are less than 4 days left. But what are the signs that precede this most obvious event? Well, some earlier signs are right there in Rev 11.

    Remember The last verse in MalachI? I will send you Elijah the prophet? Well, that is quite the statement, eh? Remember when the disciples asked and Jesus said ’Elijah has come already, but was rejected‘? Thus it was not a bodily Elijah, but the Spirit of Elijah that came. So it will be again.
    You see, bethel, AKA the spirits of Jezebel and Leviathan has a great score to settle with Elijah’s spirit. The spirit of Jez is still steaming over the loss of her priests of Baal, and the withheld rain, and the fire from heaven which fell on Elijah’s sacrifice in the sight of Israel, and converted them to the Lord, much to her dismay. So, she will even the score, for as the spirit of Elijah withholds the rain, the blessings of God, because they err.
    Jer 5:24 Neither say they in their heart, Let us now fear the LORD our God, that giveth rain, both the former and the latter, in his season: he reserveth unto us the appointed weeks of the harvest. (KJV)

    And as the Elijah spirit turns water--

    Rev 17:15And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. (KJV)

    Into blood -- John 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. (KJV)

    Thus The witnesses are preaching and teaching…Don’t look for physical signs as was in the deeds of Elijah and Moses, or you will miss it.

    But, Bethel and Jez are ‘bringing down fire from heaven‘, to consume them as Elijah consumed her Baal priests in the sight of men. (Rev 13:13 And {the beast} doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

    Easy with today’s technology. Witness the vast fires ‘they’ kindled in CA this spring…

    But, there are even earlier signs, provided you “look”. For example, Jezebethel is hemorrhaging many of their sheep daily now, as the Lord pours out his Spirit of freedom on the earth., as he had promised Hab 2:14 For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea. (KJV) The sheep are rejecting ‘Religion’, due partly to the obvious excesses and embarrassments caused them by the godlessness of Bethel.

    As the sheep leave and form their own study groups in private homes and multiple places like this very site, bethel is losing both money and power to control their minds and their votes. And their king, the one who nurtures them with lucre and provides ’guidance’ is also losing control.

    Something must be done, the beasts say. Already, we have seen the merger of Islam and Christianity being approached, with the recent visits of Islamic leaders to the Vatican. Islam and ‘Christianity’ are by far the largest sects, together boasting over half of the world’s population. What better way to control the world’s sheep, says the UN beast, but by a united world religion? And who better to head it than the leader of the now “Universal Church”?

    So, I would say that a sure and unmistakable sign would be when they finish taking your ‘dailys’ such as helping your neighbor, praying with a sick friend in the hospital, giving visible thanks at a high school event, or praying visibly in front of an abortion clinic, or feeding the needy without a proper permit…. That you need to watch closely, for the time will come when it will be under threat of law to do so.

    More coming.

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    Well, now we will talk about how to determine when our ’daily’ is taken away, for then we can begin the count, right?

    Most who read this post will cry ’foul’. No problem. “Though, all Israel shall be saved”, it is not given that all should understand how, yet. In fact, the bethel blinders are put in place by the Lord for protection of that very salvation. One may even go so far as to say it is His ’tough love’, for all flesh shall see the events to shortly manifest, and most will recoil in the horror of their real and physical manifestation.

    Consider: The 'war' the world is presently in is Spiritual, and not like the former physical wars, as evil presumes this present one is. And, as evil is more numerous than the few Spiritual warriors at the present time Evil will indeed win the physical war. It is so written in many places, but is obvious in Rev 11.

    But, the deep state is ‘cornered’ at the present. DJT has them in a fix. The ’great ones’ are facing loss of their beloved mammon, jail time or worse, death for their collective deeds. And not just in the US. Worldwide, they are screaming, as major political and their corporate minions fall nearly daily.
    So long as DJT remains in office, they are done.

    So, they need a trump card.

    Now Dan 11:27 may give a clue.. At least to some who realize that the LORD’s Word has physical, spiritual and prophetic interpretations, all EQUALLY valid.
    “And both these kings' hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed.”

    And, so, just who are these ‘kings’ today?

    Well, in a ‘religious sense‘, today, we might consider the two ‘kings’ who have the greatest number of sheep followers in the world of many bethels… Namely, il papa of the “universal” church, and “Mohammed” of Islam… Collectively possibly as much as ¾ of the world. So, dear ones… you may recall how last year, the Jesuit pope invited the Ayotollahs to his table at the Vatican… to discuss ways to unite their beliefs to result in ’world peace’. Read it for yourself:
    Coincidently, that ’world peace’ thingy is the same exact goal of the UN first beast. See:

    And the present Jesuit Pope of Bethel, AKA false Prophet/ second beast is here:

    Soo, even the spiritually blind should be able to smell the rottenness of the ’fish hat’… their Trump Card? Religion, dear ones, but the religion of bethel, the house of many gods.
    First, all who call themselves Christian, or have non PC ideals such as freedom, or freewill, in thoughts, words and deeds will be declared 'terrorists'. Count on it.
    DJT would not allow it, so he must be taken out of the way. Now, that is NOT their 'trump card'. He has them cornered and they know it, and he is well protected.
    The deep state's trump card is 'religion'. Together, they represent more than 4 billion sheep worldwide. Do you see how many VOTES they control? hmmm?
    Can you imagine how their sheep will respond with their votes next fall when the Jesuits and Ayotollahs teach from their pulpits what obvious EVIL that this charlatan DJT is forcing on all the poor sheep of the USA and the world?
    Can you now see how DJT will not be re-elected in 2020? Hmmm?
    Wake up and watch as it comes to pass. It's quite a bit more than a big BOO. Its a merger of the BS of 'religion' The UN, the illuminati and the Masons, all rolled into one. And can you see how no amount of 'patriots' and their 'guns' can stop it from happening? Oh they will try, but as it is written, "those who pick up the sword in this time, will die by the sword"
    There is one way, though, and you will read all about it in Rev 11. (if you wanna)
    The above is not a pipe dream.
    It is written exactly in Rev 11, and described in great detail in Rev 13.
    Now most of you readers will not see what is written there. Those who understand that humans are mere visual representations of SPIRITUAL Beings can see much more. If you are confused, you may care to review some previous posts here in the chapel. There are many, and presents the true temple of God, the bottomless pit we all have, the fulfillment of the seven times by the author of them, JESUS CHRIST, Lord of Lords.

    Then you may be able to 'see' in Rev 13, just how the political and religious "beasts" hold hands to cause the events as described in Rev 11, which is of course THE END of the physical, and our long awaited New Eternal Beginning…

    And, if you cant see now, at least have faith enough to believe the Lord’s recorded Words. “ALL Israel SHALL be saved.” If you can’t see clearly now, no worries, for the TRUTH will come to you. In time.

    So, when do those who see start counting down the days? Well obviously, when man’s law forbids your visible partaking of your ‘daily’… Such as praying with a friend in the hospital, feeding the needy, offering your thanks before meals, or praying at a community event, but particularly when you use His Holy name where the beast is watching under penalty of arrest. Like Daniel, who was captured for offering his daily while in front of his open window, as he had always done… before the ‘law’ was passed.

    Those who see, will see.

    more coming... maybe

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    John 4:22-24
    22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
    23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
    24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

    2 Tim 4:

    1 I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom:
    2 Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching.
    3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers;
    4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.
    5 But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

    Heb 5:12-14
    12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you have need again for someone to teach you the elementary principles of the oracles of God, and you have come to need milk and not solid food.
    13 For everyone who partakes {only} of milk is not accustomed to the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
    14 But solid food is for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to discern good and evil.

    Come out of the milk from the baby bottles, and the same old lies served by your bethel and chew on some real food....

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    Fear not, beloved of the Lord, for God has given the Bethels who excavated and chose the idols from the dirt where Jacob buried them time to repent, From the days of the Roman Colosseum, through the Crusades through the inquisition. Bloody times all.

    Now, for their final hurrah, they remove their 'robes' for all to see their nakedness, as the birth the new UN church, the 'church of diversity'.

    And this indeed is their LAST hurrah. The times have come to the full.

    John 4:23-24
    23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
    24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

    John 5:25-29
    25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
    26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
    27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
    28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
    29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. (KJV)

    and, remember your salvation, for

    Isa 45:14-17
    14 Thus saith the LORD, The labour of Egypt, and merchandise of Ethiopia and of the Sabeans, men of stature, shall come over unto thee, and they shall be thine: they shall come after thee; in chains they shall come over, and they shall fall down unto thee, they shall make supplication unto thee, saying, Surely God is in thee; and there is none else, there is no God.
    15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.
    16 They shall be ashamed, and also confounded, all of them: they shall go to confusion together that are makers of idols.
    17 But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

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