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    October 31, 2019

    Is the USA headed for a violent revolt in 2020?

    By Robert Arvay

    The United States was founded in a violent revolution and then, "fourscore and seven years" later, found itself in the midst of a brutal civil war that cost the lives of three quarters of a million Americans, more American deaths than in any other war.

    Could another violent internal war in America erupt yet again? While it is not probable, the possibilities are sobering.

    In 1776, the impetus for war had been brewing for many years. Indeed, as the Declaration of Independence made clear, "mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."

    When the evils of tyranny were no longer "sufferable," the revolution became an all-out war.

    Likewise, in 1861, the seeds of war had been long in taking hold, until they finally bore their deadly fruit.

    In both cases, whatever other "root causes" the historians may identify, the deciding factor was that both warring sides had worldviews that collided. They were not only incompatible; they were, to each other, insufferable.

    In 2019, we have for many years been witnessing the growing divide between two opposing political philosophies, loosely termed "right" and "left" or conservative and liberal, but the names do not capture the real cores of the two sides. Essentially, the right believes in individuality, the Left in collectivism.

    In normal times (if ever there were any), the two sides could coexist. Each recognized that society must incorporate both individualistic and collectivist policies to produce infrastructure and distribute wealth and to defend the nation from foreign enemies. Compromise was necessary.
    Today, those considerations seem to take second place. Atheistic culture and values motivate the extremists on the Left. They inflame emotions and leave no room for compromise. Indeed, they have radicalized a generation of people, who have essentially replaced the adult population of the 1940s, otherwise known as the Greatest Generation.

    The cultural right had largely been dormant in the face of constantly encroaching government policies favored by the Left until 2009. Then the first large public outpouring opposing those policies erupted in the TEA Party movement. Barack Obama had just become the president, and his speeches left no room for doubt that he intended to "fundamentally transform" the United States in ways that were in stark contrast to our founding principles.

    The leftist view of America is more than merely jaundiced; it is overtly hostile. American patriots are openly referred to as Nazis, and the cultural leaders of the Left are brazenly and violently opposed to any peaceful discourse with those with whom they disagree.

    The TEA Party movement, while no longer marching under that name, is more alive than ever. Its adherents are solidly determined to seize what many perceive is their best, last, and final opportunity to preserve freedom.

    We found our leader, in the enigmatic, and therefore very unlikely, person of President Donald J. Trump. He boldly goes where few politicians dare venture. He is a wrecking ball to the corrupt Washington, D.C. establishment, a no-holds-barred advocate of the "forgotten man and woman," whom the left scorns as Neanderthal gun-rights extremists.

    Trump has forced the issue. The Left, if it is to survive as a political force, must destroy him. The Left is a cornered, rabid wolf, unhinged, immoral, and violent. There is literally nothing these people will not do to retain and expand their power over you.

    Whichever way the 2020 presidential election goes, the losing side will be in an uproar. The 2016 election may be but a mild prelude to what will happen. Remember that even after the final vote had been cast and counted, the Left fought tooth and nail to overturn the results, even openly offering bribes to electors to vote "faithlessly." Leftists have never stopped opposing the outcome. They will absolutely not accept another Trump win.

    As for the right, our main fear is voter fraud. Democrats have been relentless in their opposition to any safeguards against it. If there is any evidence of voter fraud, a Trump loss will be blamed on it.

    These are scary times, and the only way we will survive them, as a sovereign nation of free and independent citizens, is to be prepared for the onset of leftist violence, the likes of which are seen today only in third-world countries.

    This is not hyperbole. Even a Democrat president recognized that. He said:
    "Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom."
    —John F. Kennedy



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    Very well thought out and written. The main difference between now and 1776/1861 is that most on our side have such comfortable lives that the "suffering evil" is not worth fighting against. We may be keyboard fighters. Depends on how much the tyranny gets ramped up. I know that personally, being an old fart, if they come to take my guns, I will not surrender. I would never be able to face my ancestors in the afterlife knowing I betrayed what they fought for.

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    Yet another doom and gloom HIT Piece and click bait about cilvil war. LOL Wow are so many are so funny these days. What was the population back then? 60 million... And now it is over 320 million. And a Very well equipped Modern Army, and don;t don't our very well equipped Modern LEO. So funny that such a few keep telling about such a war as that. What is it Those that keep talking Want a war? Are you are that ill-informed about what this country is in the 2000's these days. Wow so many living in the past and forget how modern the US is these days and how CIVIL most of the 320 million REALLY ARE. Just that the doom and gloomers read so many of these article that those people have nothing better to do then sit back and laugh at all the folks that help him Laugh all the way tor the back. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoppalong View Post
    Yet another doom and gloom HIT Piece and click bait about cilvil war. LOL Wow are so many are so funny these days. What was the population back then? 60 million... And now it is over 320 million. And a Very well equipped Modern Army, and don;t don't our very well equipped Modern LEO. So funny that such a few keep telling about such a war as that. What is it Those that keep talking Want a war? Are you are that ill-informed about what this country is in the 2000's these days. Wow so many living in the past and forget how modern the US is these days and how CIVIL most of the 320 million REALLY ARE. Just that the doom and gloomers read so many of these article that those people have nothing better to do then sit back and laugh at all the folks that help him Laugh all the way tor the back. LOL


    So by your belief there shouldn't have been any CIVIL WAR anywhere in the world for the last 30 years.

    By your own definition.

    Military and LEO split in Civil War, so both sides will have the same firepower.

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    Hoppalong is an idiot....paid troll. Useless idiot, whatever, anything but an American.
    Educate others to grow our base of informed citizens, it's tyranny. Spread the Gospel.

    Prepare wisely individually. An army runs on it's stomach.

    Network with those who prepare wisely and take advantage of the strength in numbers and the economy of scale.

    Then, when the curtains come down and the truth is evident to an informed citizenry, we unite and fight the new world order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoppalong View Post
    Yet another doom and gloom HIT Piece and click bait about cilvil war. LOL Wow are so many are so funny these days. What was the population back then? 60 million... And now it is over 320 million. And a Very well equipped Modern Army, and don;t don't our very well equipped Modern LEO. So funny that such a few keep telling about such a war as that. What is it Those that keep talking Want a war? Are you are that ill-informed about what this country is in the 2000's these days. Wow so many living in the past and forget how modern the US is these days and how CIVIL most of the 320 million REALLY ARE. Just that the doom and gloomers read so many of these article that those people have nothing better to do then sit back and laugh at all the folks that help him Laugh all the way tor the back. LOL
    They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
    “As a general rule, the earlier you recognize someone is trying to kill you, the better off you’ll be.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoppalong View Post
    Yet another doom and gloom HIT Piece and click bait about cilvil war. LOL Wow are so many are so funny these days. What was the population back then? 60 million... And now it is over 320 million. And a Very well equipped Modern Army, and don;t don't our very well equipped Modern LEO. So funny that such a few keep telling about such a war as that. What is it Those that keep talking Want a war? Are you are that ill-informed about what this country is in the 2000's these days. Wow so many living in the past and forget how modern the US is these days and how CIVIL most of the 320 million REALLY ARE. Just that the doom and gloomers read so many of these article that those people have nothing better to do then sit back and laugh at all the folks that help him Laugh all the way tor the back. LOL
    Thanks for your cognition on the subject of the civil society that we enjoy today. The crowd that's hoping for some kind of anti-government war is going to be sadly disappointed.

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    "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
    ---Thomas Jefferson

    The original intent was about a tyrannical government. What we have is approaching a a tyrannical, despodic branch of government, the House. Still...




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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    Thanks for your cognition on the subject of the civil society that we enjoy today. The crowd that's hoping for some kind of anti-government war is going to be sadly disappointed.

    I'm betting you have a stockpile of so called "evil assault weapons" and is closet supporter of leftist support for armed conflict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    The crowd that's hoping for some kind of anti-government war is going to be sadly disappointed.
    I tend to agree with this.

    The psychological warfare being waged against generally conservative Americans is going to keep them ever off-balanced and unsettled, but the last thing the “deep state” is going to allow is real relief, by any means.

    Gloat while you can, Green Man, et al. This is your time.

    But, the direction even you are being lead by the offer of wholly unsustainable but emotionally/economically attractive governance is going to bite you every bit as hard as those struggling against that velvet covered tyranny, when it is complete.

    Atheists, too, should be careful what they pray for, generally speaking.

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