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    Minneapolis Disaster: Fentanyl, Methamphetamine & Excited Delirium

    The Case Against Officer Derek Chauvin Is Anything But Solid

    by Law Officer
    June 3, 2020
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    The death of George Floyd after an interaction with the Minneapolis Police Department has rocked the world and while everyone reading this believes that an officer that put his knee in the back of Floyd’s neck for close to nine minutes was the cause of death, the facts and evidence are anything but that.

    Now, before you quickly go the typical “you are justifying the murder” of Mr. Floyd, go ahead and take a step back.
    Our job here is to give you the facts and whether you want to believe it or not, many of the facts are either not reported or not yet known and that should be concerning to every American.

    But what we know at this time gives us reason to believe that the criminal case is weak at best and there are several reasons for that.

    From the charging documents on Officer Derek Chauvin we hear, for the first time the issue of excited delirium.

    We know Chauvin was concerned about it and that was the reason Floyd was subdued. We will know more when the body camera footage is released but oddly, that has not been done. Frankly, it makes us wonder what the footage shows and whether it supports the evidence of excited delirium.

    The Western Journal of Emergency Medicine says that “Excited delirium is characterized by agitation, aggression, acute distress and sudden death, often in the pre-hospital care setting. It is typically associated with the use of drugs Subjects typically die from a heart attack and the majority of the patients die before hospital arrival.”

    “All accounts describe almost the exact same sequence of events: delirium with agitation (fear, panic, shouting, violence and hyperactivity), sudden cessation of struggle, respiratory arrest and death.”

    Once again, the body camera footage showing the initial encounter, discussions among officers and the call to paramedics about the issue of excited delirium will be a major factor in this case.

    While much has been said about Officer Chauvin’s knee to Floyd’s neck, the medical examiner’s autopsy showed that Floyd did not die from from strangulation or asphyxiation. In fact, the autopsy showed no trauma to the body.

    And before you respond with Michael Baden’s “independent” autopsy as reported by the media, understand that Baden is a hired man that also believed Michael Brown was shot in the back after looking at a diagram and that O.J. Simpson was innocent. Two specific items were noticed in his press conference that the media is not reporting.


    1. He never said it was his “expert” opinion but rather his opinion. This is to protect his integrity as an expert witness.
    2. Most importantly, Baden didn’t do an autopsy. He formed his opinion from watching the video and speaking to the family of Mr. Floyd.


    Nothing he said can be brought into a criminal proceeding. It’s simply done to sway public opinion but we will get to him in another article. Back to the actual facts…….

    According to the autopsy, Mr. Floyd had two specific drugs in his system, methamphetamine and fentanyl.
    A narcotic that is 50 to 100 times stronger than heroin, fentanyl is associated with more drug overdoses than any other opioid.

    And combined with methamphetamine, studies indicate that fentanyl has a higher chance of inducing fatal hyperthermia. And it just so happens that hyperthermia has a direct correlation with excited delirium.

    Fentanyl is also unique among the opioids in its ability to cause muscle rigidity of the chest wall, diaphragm, and larynx. Known as “wooden chest syndrome,” it’s safe to say that the combination of this drug is a recipe for heart stoppage.

    Combining the deadly effects of this drug combination along with the officer’s reaction to observing signs of excited delirium very likely paints the picture as to why Mr. Floyd ended up on the ground.

    The American College of Emergency Physicians’ White Paper Report on Excited Delirium Syndrome recommends two specific responses by law enforcement if they observe signs of excited delirium.

    Stating that “Deescalation does not have a high likelihood of changing outcomes significantly”

    “The subjects require physical restraint (this is because if they continue to struggle it accelerates the death) combined with emergent sedation.”

    “Once the decision to do this has been made, action needs to be swift and efficient, and performed with all responders present when feasible.”

    This information probably shocks you and you can thank Mayor Frey and a corrupt media that has forgotten the art of investigative journalism for holding out these facts, but these will be the facts presented to a jury.

    And that jury will have a decision to make “beyond a reasonable doubt.”

    Did George Floyd die from excited delirium caused by the ingestion of methamphetamine and fentanyl and the ensuing struggle (before he was subdued) or was being restrained on the ground the determining factor of the death?

    A restraint by the way that may have looked horrible but it did not involve strangulation or asphyxia or even a bruise. Remember, the autopsy showed no trauma on the body.

    Considering the neck restraint was department policy and restraining an individual suffering from excited delirium was the best practice according to multiple scientific journals, this case is not as simple as everyone would want you to believe.

    Unlike the emotions running through the country at this time, it is these facts that will be looked at by a jury.

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    Nothing excuses the actions of those 4 policemen.
    Floyd was sufficiently subdued.
    Why wasn't he put in the car and left there to wait for the paddy wagon or taken directly to the police station?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho Bullwinkle View Post
    Nothing excuses the actions of those 4 policemen.
    Floyd was sufficiently subdued.
    Why wasn't he put in the car and left there to wait for the paddy wagon or taken directly to the police station?
    exited delerium is more dangerous than the COVID---dats why

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho Bullwinkle View Post
    Nothing excuses the actions of those 4 policemen.
    Floyd was sufficiently subdued.
    Why wasn't he put in the car and left there to wait for the paddy wagon or taken directly to the police station?
    Agreed, HOWEVER, it's a world of difference between the legal charge of 1st degree murder and simply violating police procedures or engaging in police brutality.

    I think they've overcharged them to appease the mob, and it's going to backfire.

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    Floyd was - (is?) a "porn star", and reportedly a "crisis actor".

    NSFW

    https://www.xvideos.com/video2507265...ed_bybig_floyd
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    Quote Originally Posted by merovingian View Post
    Floyd was - (is?) a "porn star", and reportedly a "crisis actor".

    NSFW

    https://www.xvideos.com/video2507265...ed_bybig_floyd


    holy carps---caution on that link-but that does look like him

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmythebee View Post
    holy carps---caution on that link-but that does look like him
    Jimmy, why caution? Hard core porn or what? I wouldn't want to see that. Can anyone copy what would be OK to see here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laura19 View Post
    Jimmy, why caution? Hard core porn or what? I wouldn't want to see that. Can anyone copy what would be OK to see here?

    None of it you would wish to see all porn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miradus View Post
    Agreed, HOWEVER, it's a world of difference between the legal charge of 1st degree murder and simply violating police procedures or engaging in police brutality.

    I think they've overcharged them to appease the mob, and it's going to backfire.

    3rd degree or manslaughter he probably does 25..
    Overplay your cards there is a good chance he walks..
    Don't think the drugs in his system won't come into the trial.

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