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    Default Trump’s payroll tax cut: righting a socialist evil imposed by a democrat leadership

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    See:The Trump administration wants to give workers a payroll tax cut. Experts question whether it could work

    JUN 5 2020

    How a payroll tax cut would work

    “Payroll taxes are withheld from workers’ wages and are used to fund government programs, such as Social Security and Medicare.

    For Social Security, employee wages are subject to a 6.2% tax up to $137,700 in 2020. Workers also pay a Medicare tax of 1.45%.

    Employers match what workers contribute by also putting in 6.2% toward Social Security and 1.45% for Medicare.”


    One of the most notoriously evil and unjust taxes imposed by the Democrat Party Leadership is, a direct, un-apportioned, tax on the property [earned wages], which a poor working person has earned and acquired by the sweat of their labor.

    With all the blathering our socialist/communist democrat party Leadership, including squinty eyes, Joe Biden, preaches about helping the “poor working person”, it is absolutely stunning the Democrat Leadership would cook up a tax to confiscate a portion of the wages earned by a poor working person, especially one working two, and sometimes three jobs, to extricate themselves from poverty, and trying to achieve economic freedom and independence.

    But the very aim of such a tax is to keep a portion of our nation’s working poor in poverty and dependent on government, and loyal to the Democrat Party Leadership which promises to give back, in the form of “programs”, earned wages which they stole from the very soles they pretend to care for.

    President Trump’s suspension of the payroll tax would once again, and as it was prior to 1943, free laboring class citizens (your store clerk, auto mechanic, waitress, truck driver, butcher, baker, etc.,) from a federal tax on the property they earn by the sweat of their labor.

    President Trump’s desire to suspend the payroll tax would leave money in the hands of employers and employees, which in turn allows the former to invest the money for increased growth, and the latter to achieve economic freedom while stimulating the economy when spending the money they have rightfully earned.

    Keep in mind, prior to 1943, working people had no federal tax imposed on their earned wages. Unfortunately, the Democrat Party Leadership used the 2nd World War to change that and get their hooks into the pockets of working class people. They enacted the “Temporary Victory Tax” of 1943, as a means to help finance the war effort, but never ended this type of tax. They simply dropped the name “Victory Tax” and included this tax under “The Individual Income Tax Act of 1944”, Pub. L. No. 315, Ch. 210, 58 Stat. 231 (May 29, 1944), raising individual income tax rates and repealed the 3% Victory Tax.

    The bottom line is, President Trump wants to do the right thing for both businesses and wage earners. The problem is, our communist/socialist democrat party leadership wants to keep their wretched fingers around the necks of poor working people, and hinder them from achieving economic independence and freedom. Their strategy follows an age old maxim:

    A POWER OVER A MAN’s SUBSISTENCE AMOUNTS TO A POWER OVER HIS WILL____ Hamilton, No. 79 Federalist Papers

    One final note. Suspending the payroll tax does not mean a loss of federal revenue. The revenue lost could be made up under a just type of tax___ a one or two percent luxury tax imposed on specifically selected articles of luxury, which is a voluntarily paid type of tax and allows, as Hamilton points out:

    ”The amount to be contributed by each citizen will in a degree be at his own option, and can be regulated by an attention to his resources. The rich may be extravagant, the poor can be frugal; and private oppression may always be avoided by a judicious selection of objects proper for such impositions. “ ___ Federalist No. 21

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    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez claims to be an advocate of hard working people living in the Bronx. If that is so, why is she not advocating an end to the unconstitutional “Temporary Victory Tax” of 1943, which began today’s un-apportioned federal direct tax on the property which working people have earned by the sweat of their labor?

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    Another one? Please, no.

    Your last one cost me $100.00 ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar Wilde View Post
    Another one? Please, no.

    Your last one cost me $100.00 ....

    O.W.
    Huh? How would suspending the federal tax on a working person's earned wages cost you $100.00?

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    Joe Biden wants elderly American citizens, who paid into Medicare all their lives, to surrender their healthcare to millions of illegal entrants who have invaded America’s borders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    Huh?

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    I cain't tell by your facial expression if you is being facetious (the mask is blockin yor teeth).

    What tax finagling the Trumpster did last go round permitted the irs to suck another $100.00+ from my annual stipend.

    Some tax break for the middle class? I ain't there yet and he apparently added more weight to my burden, impeding my progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar Wilde View Post
    I cain't tell by your facial expression if you is being facetious (the mask is blockin yor teeth).

    What tax finagling the Trumpster did last go round permitted the irs to suck another $100.00+ from my annual stipend.

    Some tax break for the middle class? I ain't there yet and he apparently added more weight to my burden, impeding my progress.

    O.W.
    What on earth are you talking about? The subject being discussed is suspending the notoriously evil socialist/communist, Democrat imposed tax on the property which working people earn by the sweat of their labor.

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    When it comes to healthcare, our socialist candidate, Joe Biden, has no moral compass whatsoever. He refuses to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the healthcare needs of illegal entrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar Wilde View Post
    Another one? Please, no.

    Your last one cost me $100.00 ....

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    There are four basic types of
    payroll taxes: federal income, Social Security, Medicare, and federal unemployment.
    Employees must pay Social Security and Medicare
    taxes through payroll deductions, and most employers also deduct federal income tax payments.

    And most of that is going to be not only a Hard Sell but pretty much impossible to cut. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoppalong View Post

    There are four basic types of
    payroll taxes: federal income, Social Security, Medicare, and federal unemployment.
    Employees must pay Social Security and Medicare
    taxes through payroll deductions, and most employers also deduct federal income tax payments.


    And, for a person earning $65K, suspending the payroll tax would be about $5,000.00 left in the worker's pocket.

    JWK

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    What on earth are you talking about?

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    Apparently ... I don't know. To be fair, I have this affliction.

    When I see polit-rats / bureau-rats move their lips to make more noise, I hear blah blah blah no new taxes, blah blah blah tax breaks for the blah blah. No more war, let's get out of blah blah blah. The results generally being same $h!t, different day.

    And my brain, to avoid any conflict in process, dismisses most of it cuz it's bull$h!t. Do ya 'member the swamp? Still there reeking.

    Dispense with property taxes? Heh, I'm all for it but ain't gonna happen in my lifetime.

    It's how bureaurats became millionaires+, you think they're gonna give this up? Heh.

    O.W.


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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post

    And, for a person earning $65K, suspending the payroll tax would be about $5,000.00 left in the worker's pocket.

    JWK
    Oh ya let the old folks die when no SS comes. Nice of you eh? And all the health benefits of Medicare nice of you to think that that can be taken away also from people paying in so they can collect later on in life, like they do with SS.
    And get laid off no unemployment money ya that sounds like a plan. Tats and health all are a guarantee don't like it well a nice island might be in your future then.~!!!!! WOW what a way to go starve, and dies for illness because of some that think they should not pay taxes. Not Here in the USA not with 320 million people from all over the world, this no longer is a closed society that so many think it should be. Suspend the payroll tax? For how long? No money coming in and all this money being paid out? WOW want the USA really to be in default? Can't do that not with yet another package if aid money yet to come in another month or so. 2T and may get close to 3T And Trump is sure warming up to the fact to get money in peoples pocket. With so many NOT WORKING payroll tax cut will not help that many, not as much as if we had full employment. Now that really would be a help but not with how many not working now around 40 million and that is just those that have filed, Temps and many part time workers may not even be counted in that.

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    So, Trump want us to be whipped 9 times a day rather than 10 times per day.
    But He doesn't want the whipping to be stopped.

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