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    The House select committee made a good start in explaining the insurrection and why American democracy can’t withstand a restoration of Donald Trump.




    By John Cassidy
    June 10, 2022

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-c...e-really-about
    Strangely enough, one of the sharpest takes on Thursday’s prime-time January 6th hearing on Capitol Hill came from an anchor of the “news network” that, to its eternal shame, chose not to show the proceedings live: Bret Baier, of Fox News. Having spent two hours helming coverage of the hearing on Fox’s much less popular sibling, Fox Business, Baier popped up on the main network in the eleven-o’clock hour, where he pointed out that it’s not entirely clear yet where the Democrats and Liz Cheney, one of two Republicans on the January 6th House select committee, are going with this. Is it ultimately an effort to go after Donald Trump criminally?, Baier asked. Or is it a political play to prevent him from running for President again?
    The redoubtable Liz Cheney, the Republican ostracized by her party, and the resolute Bennie Thompson, the Mississippi Democrat who shared the spotlight with her at the hearings, would doubtless insist that their primary goal is to protect American democracy. There would be no reason to doubt them. But that doesn’t negate Baier’s question, and, arguably, makes it more pertinent. For, if there’s one thing the hearing reminded everyone of, it’s that Trump will represent a mortal threat to American democracy until the day he retires from politics. So, if your goal is to protect that democracy, the first question you have to consider is this: What’s the most effective way to make sure Trump remains a former President?


    The most definitive move would be to charge and convict him of seditious conspiracy, insurrection, or incitement. From one perspective, the entire series of hearings—another five are expected this month, with a final report due in September—can be interpreted as a lengthy criminal referral to the Justice Department, or, at the least, as a heavy hint in the ear of Attorney General Merrick Garland. While Justice Department prosecutors have gone far and wide in their investigation into the assault on the Capitol, charging more than eight hundred people with crimes related to the riot, the Department hasn’t yet indicted anyone in Trump’s immediate orbit. The farthest Garland has gone was his pledge in January, on the eve of the anniversary of the insurrection, that his department “remains committed to holding all January 6th perpetrators, at any level, accountable under law—whether they were present that day or were otherwise criminally responsible for the assault on our democracy.”
    If the Feds don’t indict Trump because they don’t think there is enough evidence to secure a conviction from a jury, the job of protecting democracy from the former President will fall on his quislings in the Republican Party and, eventually, on American voters at large. In this context, the hearings provide an important public service in two ways.
    First, they remind elected Republicans, whose ultimate loyalty is to themselves, that if they don’t somehow find a way to move past Trump they will spend years defending the indefensible. Because, as sure as the sun rises, Trump is going to make them do it. Hours before Thursday’s hearing started, the former President posted this monstrous statement on his social-media app Truth Social: “January 6 was not merely a protest, it represented the greatest movement in the history of our Country to Make America Great Again. It was about an Election that was Rigged and Stolen, and a Country that was about to go to HELL.”


    Tucker Carlson and some other media figures who make millions monetizing Trump’s grievances and legitimizing his fantasies may be willing to continue down this road with him. But is it politically viable in the long term for establishment Republicans like House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (some of whose staff members were shown in the January 6th committee’s video presentation scurrying away from their Capitol offices in terror of the maga rioters)? What about the “multiple” G.O.P. lawmakers who, according to Cheney’s presentation, contacted the White House in the weeks after January 6th and asked for Presidential pardons for their role in promoting Trump’s Big Lie? Some of them may privately prefer to move on as well.


    For the sake of argument, let’s assume that, two years from now, Trump and his maga hordes steamroll their way through the G.O.P. primaries, as they did in 2016, and it’s left to the American people to stop him at the voting booth. In that alarming scenario, it will be essential to have a full and accurate account of January 6th, including the attack itself, the events that led up to it, and its chaotic aftermath—when Betsy DeVos, Trump’s ultra-conservative Secretary of Education, discussed invoking the Twenty-fifth Amendment with Pence and other Cabinet members; when the spineless McCarthy talked (and only talked) about asking Trump to resign; and when General Mark Milley, then the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, reportedly sought to limit the ability of a raging Commander-in-Chief to launch a nuclear strike.
    Of course, there is no guarantee that establishing the full truth about January 6th will defeat Trump: in a democracy, the voters remain free to make awful choices. But in using the testimony of the Attorney General at the time, Bill Barr, along with Trump’s daughter Ivanka and others who were on the inside of this horrid saga, the members of the select committee have made a good start in laying out Trump’s culpability with fresh details and conveying it to anybody who is willing to watch and listen.
    One Trumper who seems rattled is Trump himself. On Friday morning, he again took to Truth Social, where he accused his own daughter of being “checked out” and said that his former Attorney General “sucked.” As the hearings proceed, we’ll probably be seeing more from both of them. The next hearing is on Monday. ♦



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    Wait for all the testimony to flip flop after Jan 2023, when all these "WITNESS" will be required to show up in front of the New Committees!!!

    Liz will not make it to the Nov ballet!!!

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    "it’s that Trump will represent a mortal threat to American democracy until the day he retires from politics. So, if your goal is to protect that democracy, the first question you have to consider is this: What’s the most effective way to make sure Trump remains a former President?"

    Laughable. The only response proper for absurdity. I'm concerned about you Green Man.

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    The hearings are a badly scripted play that will unravel when all video is released. What a farce. A joke. They think people are idiots. One thing for sure, those folk paying $100+ to fill their tank when they were paying $40 with Trump don't care squat about whiny pelosi, cheney, or aoc.
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    While President Trump lowered the price of fuel,Thank You President Trump!
    However:
    He was part of the harmfilled Covid scam; He set up those DC protestors for big hassles and torture; He kept tons of swamp monsters in His regime;
    He was a slave to the Anti-Christ fake Israel; Waged a terrorist war on Syria, the Mother of Western Civilization, Christ & Christian Israelite Peoples; Stole Syrian oil, burned Syria wheat fields, bombed & occupied Syria. President Trump stopped a peace treaty with Iran and killed diplomats. He even attacked Yemen, killing people there too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Off-Grid Organics View Post
    The hearings are a badly scripted play that will unravel when all video is released. What a farce. A joke. They think people are idiots. One thing for sure, those folk paying $100+ to fill their tank when they were paying $40 with Trump don't care squat about whiny pelosi, cheney, or aoc.

    Jan. 6 Committee Appears to Lay Out Road Map for Prosecuting Trump


    He had means, motive and opportunity. But did Donald J. Trump commit a crime?A House committee explicitly declared that he did by conspiring to overturn an election. The attorney general, however, has not weighed in. And a jury of his peers may never hear the case.
    The first prime-time hearing into the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol this past week confronted the fundamental question that has haunted Mr. Trump, the 45th president, ever since he left office: Should he be prosecuted in a criminal court for his relentless efforts to defy the will of the voters and hang on to power?
    For two hours on Thursday night, the House committee investigating the Capitol attack detailed what it called Mr. Trump’s “illegal” and “unconstitutional” seven-part plan to prevent the transfer of power. The panel invoked the Justice Department, citing charges of seditious conspiracy filed against some of the attackers, and seemed to be laying out a road map for Attorney General Merrick B. Garland to their central target.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...4r7?li=BBnb7Kz


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoppalong View Post


    He had means, motive and opportunity. But did Donald J. Trump commit a crime?
    Sounds really criminal to me:

    “Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement,” Trump wrote on Twitter. “They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!”
    Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 6, 2021
    Trump repeated his call on Twitter about a half-hour later.
    “I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence!” he said. “Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!”
    I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 6, 2021
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    The Two Party System and the American Failed State

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    They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
    “As a general rule, the earlier you recognize someone is trying to kill you, the better off you’ll be.”

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    It's in impeachapalooza 3.0. like all remakes this one is lower budget and worse actors.

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    GreenMan, You know the committee was using teleprompters and just reading their lines at the hollywood produced Thursday night laugher don't you?

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