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    Default Here's The Warrant: DOJ Investigating Trump For Potential Violations Of Espionage Act

    Update (1537ET): Politico reports that based on the search warrant, the FBI is investigating former President Trump for "removal or destruction of records, obstruction of an investigation, and violating the Espionage Act," while Breitbart has the actual statutes from the warrant.
    NEW via Breitbart: Trump under investigation per search warrant for:
    18 USC 2071 — Concealment, removal or mutilation
    18 USC 793 — Gathering, transmitting or losing defence information
    18 USC 1519 — Destruction, alteration or falsification of records in Federal investigations
    — Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) August 12, 2022
    The documents, which are expected to be unsealed later Friday after the Justice Department sought their public disclosure amid relentless attacks by Trump and his GOP allies, underscore the extraordinary national security threat that federal investigators believed the missing documents presented. The concern grew so acute that Attorney General Merrick Garland approved the unprecedented search of Trump’s estate last week.
    Taylor Budowich, a spokesperson for Trump, said the FBI’s move was “not just unprecedented, but unnecessary -- and now they are leaking lies and innuendos to try to explain away the weaponization of government against their dominant political opponent. This is outrageous.” -Politico
    This fishing expedition is so insane that under the federal legal definition of "Presidential Records," a McDonald's menu that Trump scrawled his lunch order on during a meeting in the Oval would be included (44 U.S.C. 2201).

    The FBI raided Trump's house for that. INSANE. https://t.co/WP4ULjXS8f pic.twitter.com/A2zMLws370
    — Sean Davis (@seanmdav) August 12, 2022
    An interesting point:
    WSJ: "Mr. Trump’s lawyers argue that the former president used his authority to declassify the material before he left office."

    But as @charlie_savage points out. NONE of the 3 crimes cited in the warrant turn on whether the information is classified.https://t.co/xcGr2LotPD pic.twitter.com/vmsbp1vD3z
    — Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw) August 12, 2022
    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) has called for AG Merrick Garland to release the information which predicated the warrant.
    They can redact the names and other sensitive information, but DOJ must lay their cards on the table.

    Media speculation is rampant and many of us remember the Mueller investigation and the rampant misinformation surrounding it.

    Let America see the affidavit.
    — Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) August 12, 2022
    According to Human Events' Jack Posobiec:
    The warrant details the address and locations to be searched, including that “The locations to be searched include the ‘45 Office,’ all storage rooms, and all other rooms or areas within the premises used or available to be used by FPOTUS and his staff and in which boxes or documents could be stored, including all structures or buildings on the estate.”
    The warrant did not include a call to search parts of the property that are in use by members of the Mar-a-Lago club, or rentals.
    It further reads that the “Property to be seized” includes “All physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime or other items illegally possessed in violation” of legal codes, including:
    “Any physical documents with classification markings, along with any containers/boxes (including any other contents) in which such documents are locations, as well as any other containers/boxes that are collectively stored or found together with the aforementioned documents and containers/boxes:
    “Information, including communications in any form, regarding the retrieval, storage, or transmission of national defense information or classified material;
    “Any government and/or Presidential Records created between January 20, 2017,” the day Trump took office, and the end of his term.
    Additionally, the warrant demands the seizure of “Any evidence of the knowing alteration, destruction, or concealment of and government and/or Presidential Records, or of any documents with classification markings.”
    A receipt of property for dozens of boxes follows, with that receipt signed by Trump attorney Christina Bobb on August 8, at 6:19 pm.
    The reason for the search warrant was not made public, and the probable cause is not noted as part of the documents.
    EXCLUSIVE: Warrant and Prop... by Celine Ryan Ciccio
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    Update (1512ET): President Trump had more to say on Friday about Monday's FBI raid on his residence at Mar-a-Lago.


    "Number one, it was all declassified. Number two, they didn’t need to “seize” anything. They could have had it anytime they wanted without playing politics and breaking into Mar-a-Lago. It was in secured storage, with an additional lock put on as per their request," Trump wrote on Truth Social.
    "They could have had it anytime they wanted—and that includes LONG ago. ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS ASK. The bigger problem is, what are they going to do with the 33 million pages of documents, many of which are classified, that President Obama took to Chicago?"
    Pundit Mark Levin makes some great points via Twitter:
    B. Wouldn't the FBI had known there was "classified" information at that time -- either before they arrived at the home or during their search? The most sensitive national security documents are supposed to be tracked by the relevant agency or department.
    — Mark R. Levin (@marklevinshow) August 12, 2022
    (continued)
    C. Did they look in June? If so, didn't they see the documents? If they did not look, why not?
    D. 2. If the FBI felt the Trump lawyers were not cooperative, all they had to do is go to court to enforce their subpoena or get a second subpoena.
    E. Instead, there was a TWO-MONTH gap between the June meeting and the seeking/execution of the search warrant in August. Why was there a two-month gap if there was an urgent necessity for a search warrant? Why wasn't a search warrant sought immediately?
    F. 3. Once again, I make the argument that this was pretextual for the purpose of grabbing anything they could find, using the plain view doctrine as an attempt to find anything related to January 6, among other things.
    * * *
    Update (1325ET): The DOJ leak-fest continues, this time with the Wall Street Journal reporting that the FBI "removed 11 sets of classified documents, including some marked as top secret and meant to only be available in special government facilities" (much like the 7 'top secret' email chains on Hillary Clinton's computer).


    The Federal Bureau of Investigation agents took around 20 boxes of items, binders of photos, a handwritten note and the executive grant of clemency for Mr. Trump’s ally Roger Stone, a list of items removed from the property shows. Also included in the list was information about the “President of France,” according to the three-page list. The list is contained in a seven-page document that also includes the warrant to search the premises which was granted by a federal magistrate judge in Florida. -WSJ
    One set of the recovered documents were marked as "Various classified/TS/SCI documents," referring to sensitive or top-secret information.
    The agency also claims they collected four sets of top secret documents, three sets of secret documents, and three sets of confidential documents.
    According to the Journal's subheadline, Trump allies insist the documents were declassified by the former president.
    The search and seizure warrant, signed by U.S. Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart, shows that FBI agents sought to search “the 45 Office,” as well as “all storage rooms and all other rooms or areas within the premises used or available to be used by [the former president] and his staff and in which boxes or documents could be stored, including all structures or buildings on the estate.”
    The former president and his team don’t have the affidavit, which would provide more detail about the FBI’s investigation, according to people familiar with the process. His lawyers have asked for a more specific account of what was removed from Mar-a-Lago. -WSJ
    Meanwhile, guess who didn't get raided for doing the same thing?


    On Friday, Trump called out former President Barack Hussein Obama for keeping "33 million pages of documents, much of them classified."


    A debate over whether Trump could have declassified the documents has ensued:
    I don't know the validity of this claim, but the argument (unlike the implausible nuclear secrets) is worth parsing.
    Needless to say, FBI squealed about "sources and methods" when corrupt sources Halper and Danchenko were exposed.
    — Stephen McIntyre (@ClimateAudit) August 12, 2022
    it says that President has right to declassify whatever he wants and that, under separation of powers, Congess cannot limit his authority.

    So the claim that Trump lacked authority to declassify documents on "sources and methods" (because of statute) looks totally bogus. pic.twitter.com/PiMwMkuFZ3
    — Stephen McIntyre (@ClimateAudit) August 12, 2022

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    Some of the socialists comments are beyond wild...

    "Biden promised during his presidential campaign to restore the independence of the Justice Department, which Trump tried to weaponize for political gain."

    "The one who says he stays in Him is indebted to walk, even as He walked." 1Jn 2:6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Off-Grid Organics View Post
    Some of the socialists comments are beyond wild...

    "Biden promised during his presidential campaign to restore the independence of the Justice Department, which Trump tried to weaponize for political gain."

    Scary that these fools can be led around so easily…
    When this new coup attempt on Trumps eligibility to run for office fails-Assassination is their final option.
    Oh don’t think they won’t try it in desperation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyb View Post
    Scary that these fools can be led around so easily…
    Examples of a few on this forum. Kool-Aid breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
    "The one who says he stays in Him is indebted to walk, even as He walked." 1Jn 2:6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Off-Grid Organics View Post
    Examples of a few on this forum. Kool-Aid breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
    Yeah, and if we all put them on ignore like I have they would shrivel up
    , die , and go away.
    What will you say on judgment day?

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    Dang. Let’s face it they want orange man dead. Already msnbc is talking this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Off-Grid Organics View Post
    Examples of a few on this forum. Kool-Aid breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
    Exactly!! Leadership is suggesting you and I should strive to outperform them in the exchange of ideas to sharpen our swords but I submit to you that we are way too far past that point. We are despised and hated for not believing the way they want us to. The party is over.


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    Mary Trump speculates that Jared Kushner could be the 'Mar-a-Lago mole' after reports say an informant close to Trump guided FBI agents to the documents

    Kelsey Vlamis

    https://www.businessinsider.com/mary-trump-jared-kushner-mar-a-lago-mole-fbi-informant-2022-8


    • The FBI recovered 11 boxes of classified documents during the Mar-a-Lago raid, court documents say.
    • Sources told The Wall Street Journal and Newsweek that someone told the feds about the materials and where to look.
    • Mary Trump, a vocal critic of her uncle, said she thinks Jared Kushner may have been the informant.


    Mary Trump said she thinks the person who may have given the FBI information about documents held at Mar-a-Lago by her uncle, former President Donald Trump, could be Jared Kushner.

    She made the comments during a radio interview on Friday with The Dean Obeidallah Show. The host asked her who she thinks could be the "Mar-a-Lago mole" after reports said the FBI was tipped off by an informant close to the former president.

    "We need to start with who would have access to this stuff. I don't think Mark Meadows would have access to it," Mary Trump began, dismissing the former chief of staff.

    "I think we need to look very hard at why Jared got $2 billion," she said, referring to an investment into Kushner's private equity firmby a fund led by Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia. "We need to look very hard at why he has been so quiet for so many months now."

    "And we need to think about who could also be implicated in this that would need as big a play as turning Donald in in order to get out of trouble, or at least to mitigate the trouble they're in," she continued. "It sounds like somebody in Jared's position. I'm not saying it's Jared, but it could be."

    Mary Trump, who has been a consistent and vocal critic of her uncle, wasn't the first person to point the finger at Kushner.

    Michael Cohen, Trump's former attorney and fixer, told Insider's Natalie Musumeci on Thursday he too thought Kushner could be the FBI informant.

    "It's definitely a member of his inner circle," Cohen said, adding he "would not be surprised to find out it is Jared or one of his children."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    Mary Trump speculates that Jared Kushner could be the 'Mar-a-Lago mole' after reports say an informant close to Trump guided FBI agents to the documents

    Kelsey Vlamis

    https://www.businessinsider.com/mary-trump-jared-kushner-mar-a-lago-mole-fbi-informant-2022-8


    • The FBI recovered 11 boxes of classified documents during the Mar-a-Lago raid, court documents say.
    • Sources told The Wall Street Journal and Newsweek that someone told the feds about the materials and where to look.
    • Mary Trump, a vocal critic of her uncle, said she thinks Jared Kushner may have been the informant.


    Mary Trump said she thinks the person who may have given the FBI information about documents held at Mar-a-Lago by her uncle, former President Donald Trump, could be Jared Kushner.

    She made the comments during a radio interview on Friday with The Dean Obeidallah Show. The host asked her who she thinks could be the "Mar-a-Lago mole" after reports said the FBI was tipped off by an informant close to the former president.

    "We need to start with who would have access to this stuff. I don't think Mark Meadows would have access to it," Mary Trump began, dismissing the former chief of staff.

    "I think we need to look very hard at why Jared got $2 billion," she said, referring to an investment into Kushner's private equity firmby a fund led by Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia. "We need to look very hard at why he has been so quiet for so many months now."

    "And we need to think about who could also be implicated in this that would need as big a play as turning Donald in in order to get out of trouble, or at least to mitigate the trouble they're in," she continued. "It sounds like somebody in Jared's position. I'm not saying it's Jared, but it could be."

    Mary Trump, who has been a consistent and vocal critic of her uncle, wasn't the first person to point the finger at Kushner.

    Michael Cohen, Trump's former attorney and fixer, told Insider's Natalie Musumeci on Thursday he too thought Kushner could be the FBI informant.

    "It's definitely a member of his inner circle," Cohen said, adding he "would not be surprised to find out it is Jared or one of his children."
    Going off the deep end even further GREENMAN!!!!!

    Everything she has said about her uncle has been proven a "LIE"!!!

    Proves how easily you can be "DECEIVED" or proves you are part of the "ESTABLISHMENT" propaganda machine!!!!

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