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    Default Judge Halts FBI Use Of Mar-a-Lago Raid Docs, Appoints Special Master To Review

    Judge Halts FBI Use Of Mar-a-Lago Raid Docs, Appoints Special Master To Review

    by Tyler Durden

    Tuesday, Sep 06, 2022 - 04:15 AM
    A federal judge on Monday granted former President Trump's request for a third-party expert to review materials seized by the FBI from his Mar-a-Lago residence.




    US District Judge Aileen Cannon, a Trump appointee, said in a Sunday ruling released on Monday that a so-called special master would review the seized property, manage assertions of privilege, as well as make recommendations regarding the investigative value of materials - and what property should be returned to Trump, Bloomberg reports.


    Details of the review process will be decided after both sides submit proposals.

    As Jonathan Turley noted last week;
    Such an appointment should have been done before the Justice Department reviewed the material. The Department sought a ridiculously broad search warrant and Magistrate Paul Reinhart simply signed off on the order without considering the wide array of privileged material that could be seized. It adopted language so broad that it was the legal version of Captain Jack Sparrow’s “Take what you can … Give nothing back.” It allowed the seizure of any box containing any document with any classification of any kind — and all boxes stored with that box. It also allowed the seizure of any writing from Trump’s presidency.

    However, a special master could still serve the same interests of transparency and legitimacy. The special master could divide these documents in classified material, unclassified but defense information, and unclassified material outside of the scope of the alleged crimes. The last category would then be returned.

    That accounting could also offer basic descriptive information on the material without revealing their precise content or titles. The special master could describe material as related to national defense or nuclear weapons (as was previously leaked government sources). The government has already leaked that there was nuclear weapons material being sought. Confirming such general details can be done without giving details on the specific information or even titles for the documents to protect national security. In national security cases, including cases where I have served as counsel, such indexes and summaries are common.

    Once again, as with the release of the redacted affidavit, Garland could have taken these steps to assure the public that the Department was not acting for political or improper purposes — or using excessive means to achieve those goals. He has refused every opportunity to do so while chastising those who question the integrity of his Department.

    The release of the redacted affidavit shows that what Garland and his Department told the public was untrue about the inability to release a redacted affidavit without endangering the case or national security. As discussed yesterday, the redacted affidavit confirmed various key points on the legal and factual background. After opposing the release of even a single line, the government released whole pages that were manifestly suitable for public disclosure.

    Once again, Garland waited to be forced to take this step rather than act on his own to address widespread concerns. His department has a documented history of officials misleading courts and filing false material in Trump-related investigations. This is yet another example of how Attorney General Garland has done little to earn the trust of almost half of the country. In this and other controversies, he has demanded respect but refused to take even modest measures to justify it.



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    Plenty of time to have copied all the documents, of course. Horse has already left the barn.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Sinclair;[URL="tel:2862761"
    2862761[/URL]]Plenty of time to have copied all the documents, of course. Horse has already left the barn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Sinclair View Post
    Plenty of time to have copied all the documents, of course. Horse has already left the barn.
    What did Trump do with the copies?

    Navy Veteran Ken Harbaugh reacts to Russia's recent statements claiming they have seen the top secret documents Donald Trump illegally stole and hid in his Mar-a-Lago resort. Harbaugh explains how Trump and the Republican Party are a gift to Russia, and how Donald Trump is a Russian asset.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY-J6YoMDN4

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    It is more more likely President Trump is an Israeli asset, because early on in His initial campaign He said that the pro-Israeli college started by Jerry Falwell in Appomatox County, Virginia as I recall. was a wonderful thing and that America should kow tow to every Israeli request so that His god could Bless America. And even on His inauguration day, He got a note from Netanyahu on who He could not talk to.

    President Clinton allowed tons of secret stuff to the Chinese, why don't they whine about that too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    What did Trump do with the copies?



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    The above posts have went over your head!!!!!

    They were talking about the FBI/DOJ stooges copying the documents!!!!

    So what "CLASSIFIED" information is Biden's point man giving the Israeli's???

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonewolfinoregon View Post
    The above posts have went over your head!!!!!

    They were talking about the FBI/DOJ stooges copying the documents!!!!

    So what "CLASSIFIED" information is Biden's point man giving the Israeli's???
    Don't be ridiculous. All the classified documents already exist as electronic copies within the government agencies that create them. There would be no point in the government making another copy. The issue is what was Trump doing with them. Souvenirs? Bargaining power? If bargaining power, then with whom?

    It's also worth noting that Trump's lawyers are asking that the yet-to-be-appointed special master be allowed to examine the classified documents as well as all the rest. Admitting in effect that there was no "bulk declassification" by the ex-president.
    Last edited by Green Man; 09-10-2022 at 02:35 PM.

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    The special master is to organize the seized materials to clarify the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    Don't be ridiculous. All the classified documents already exist as electronic copies within the government agencies that create them. There would be no point in the government making another copy. The issue is what was Trump doing with them. Souvenirs? Bargaining power? If bargaining power, then with whom?

    It's also worth noting that Trump's lawyers are asking that the yet-to-be-appointed special master be allowed to examine the classified documents as well as all the rest. Admitting in effect that there was no "bulk declassification" by the ex-president.
    Leave out the part where the SPECIAL MASTER would be able to return all the Documents that Trump had declassified!!!!

    And when he/she orders all the "CLASSIFIED" documents be returned to TRUMP, you and your MARXIST allies will have a complete meltdown!!!!

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    The special master will be charged with deciding which documents are actually Trumps and which are government property. Even if declassified, documents are government property.

    The PRA [Presidential Records Act] says that “upon the conclusion of a President’s term of office, … the Archivist … shall assume responsibility for the custody, control, and preservation of, and access to, the Presidential records of that President.” More importantly, it says that the United States “shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records.” The PRA also says that the archivist “shall deposit all such Presidential records in a Presidential archival depository or another archival facility operated by the United States” (emphasis added).
    The PRA thus makes clear that only the United States (and not former President Trump) owns and is authorized to possess and control the presidential documents. And it specifies that the archivist assumes “responsibility for the custody [and] control” of presidential records at the end of a presidential term, and must deposit them in an archival facility operated by the United States. The PRA gives a former president certain rights to access and limit access to the documents in the possession of the United States, but it rules out the possibility of a former president possessing presidential records after his presidential term.


    https://www.lawfareblog.com/presiden...lago-documents

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