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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan88 View Post
    All things are lawful..... 1 Corinthians 6:12

    Looking in Strong's Bible Concordance, the word "things" is not there originally. It has been added, probably by King Jame's Jew "translators".

    The word "lawful" is Greek word number 1832 and is from #1537 origin & #1510, I am, was, has been.

    So maybe what Paul said was I was not expedient word# 4851 good, profitable, with, and from # 5342, and, bear, bring, carry, drive, endure, lay, lead, move, reach, uphold.

    Therefore in essence what He seems to be saying is: I was not good or profitable, in all the included senses of the word #5342.

    He was confessing his rotten past, yes? And saying He was no longer under the influence of that past.

    In reality, King James Jew translators made Apostle Paul's words to be complicated confusion stuff, designed to fool people into doing whatever they want, and thus becoming guilty and lost without them knowing they were/are wrong. Americans are solidly locked into this trap.

    So, Big Thanks to Offgrid Organics for starting this thread, or I would not have studied the issue of "all things lawful".
    Yes, Big Thanks to OGO! But, it appears that Paul was not saying this. He was quoting what OTHERS were saying and misleading people thereby.

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    It appears? Paul confessed His past and Truthfully stated He was no longer under Edomite Pharisee influence. King James Translators deliberately covered that up to fool Christians into supposing they could do as they wished, which is exactly Adam's wrong, which all Real Christians are OVERCOMING in their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan88 View Post
    It appears?
    Some have it correctly stated:

    New International Version
    “I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything"—but I will not be mastered by anything.

    New Living Translation
    You say, “I am allowed to do anything”—but not everything is good for you. And even though “I am allowed to do anything,” I must not become a slave to anything.

    Contemporary English Version
    Some of you say, "We can do anything we want to." But I tell you not everything is good for us. So I refuse to let anything have power over me.

    GOD'S WORD® Translation
    Someone may say, "I'm allowed to do anything," but not everything is helpful. I'm allowed to do anything, but I won't allow anything to gain control over my life.

    Good News Translation
    Someone will say, "I am allowed to do anything." Yes; but not everything is good for you. I could say that I am allowed to do anything, but I am not going to let anything make me its slave.

    ETC...
    "The one who says he stays in Him is indebted to walk, even as He walked." 1Jn 2:6

    Without Torah, His walk is impossible - it's Rome's walk without Torah.



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    All of those "translations" in post #13 are wrong and deceptive, because, they all suggest doing anything, just don't get caught. Paul did not say that.

    Off Grid mentioned walking/living the Lawful way Christ walked, which is vastly more in Harmony with the Truth.
    No one can overcome if they do what they want instead of following the Perfect Law, Word, Intent of the Creator, YahuahShua.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan88 View Post
    All of those "translations" in post #13 are wrong and deceptive, because, they all suggest doing anything, just don't get caught. Paul did not say that.

    Off Grid mentioned walking/living the Lawful way Christ walked, which is vastly more in Harmony with the Truth.
    No one can overcome if they do what they want instead of following the Perfect Law, Word, Intent of the Creator, YahuahShua.
    Those translations are pointing out the solution to the problem. Paul, "apparently" DID NOT SAY: "All things are lawful for me." I say, apparently, because I was not there and don't have a copy of the letter he wrote. I had never understood that, as I read my KJV. How could Paul teach: "ALL things are lawful for me."??? I ignorantly, thought he did say that! But, it doesn't jibe with his other writings and teachings does it? How can one "establish the Law" if one does not know what is Lawful and what is not?

    I'm not sure why you're not getting this Ivan. If I was I could try to help you. When those other versions put that saying in quotation marks, they are attributing it to other people, NOT Paul. Paul is refuting that way of thinking....because it is Law-less....and anti-nomian.....and licentious.

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    Apostle Paul did not teach/say, "All things are lawful..."
    Maybe He said somewhere All Lawful things are good.

    All of those new world order translations say all things are lawful.

    I already showed His Words in Greek as You quoted in post #11 and summarized in post #12.

    It is very intuitive to suppose that Paul was negating the people who were saying do anything you want. And that is essentially what He was saying in talking about Himself.

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    Apostle Paul did not teach/say, "All things are lawful..."
    Maybe He said somewhere All Lawful things are good.

    All of those new world order translations say all things are lawful.

    I already showed His Words in Greek as You quoted in post #11 and summarized in post #12.

    It is very intuitive to suppose that Paul was negating the people who were saying do anything you want. And that is essentially what He was saying in talking about Himself.

    I must have missed what You said in post #15, "Paul, "apparently" DID NOT SAY: "All things are lawful for me." And You are 100% correct. Thanks dmatic.

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