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    In the last study, we looked at sacrifices going on in the temple during first century. EVERYONE was still keeping Torah, as we’d expect. Now let’s look from a prophetic, millennial perspective. What can we expect to come? Agree or disagree, it doesn’t matter to me. I’m no teacher, I only post studies for consideration. All doctrine is laying bare on the table with me, no man has this all figured out. I’m still figuring. Every day. This will be as brief as possible. First, let’s again reflect on Messiah’s very words before continuing -

    “For TRULY, I say to you, UNTIL the heaven and the earth pass away, one yod or one tittle shall by NO MEANS PASS (disappear, vanish, perish) from the Torah TILL ALL be done” Mat 5:18. He says it again here: “And it is EASIER for the heaven and the earth to pass away than for one tittle of the Torah to FALL (become null and void)” Luk 16:17. How much should we believe Him? Should certain exceptions be made?

    There is no hidden meaning, what is said is said very plainly. If you feel you have to try to wiggle it, bend it, or twist it, that should be a red flag. Wrong approach. I just wish that christianity would believe Him. Not the least little bit of Torah, until heaven and earth passes away. Nothing added, nothing taken away (Dt 4:2). We are also told WHEN heaven and earth passes. And, according to Scripture, we have quite a ways to go yet. An entire millennium before this occurs - “And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth passed away” Rev 21:1. To me, those verses provide a solid foundation. No ambiguity. No mystery. Very straightforward.

    That said, several verses later we learn there will be no more need for a temple after the millennium (21:22). However, during His Reign of the 1000 year period, there is an exhaustive description of a vast, detailed new temple. Details are given to Ezekiel from chapter 40-48, culminating with it being called a city, “Yahuah Shammah” (Yah is there!). Volumes have been written about those chapters, far too much to get into in this brief study. It cannot be denied, >sacrifices< are detailed in those pages (43:19, 25; 45:15, 17, 22). It will certainly settle any circumcision debate, and the difference between clean and unclean. He will no longer be profaned anymore, that’s for sure (Ez 22:26) -

    “Thus says Adonai Yahuah; No stranger, uncircumcised in heart, nor uncircumcised in flesh, shall enter into my sanctuary, of any stranger that is among the children of Yashar’el” Eze 44:9. “And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean” Eze 44:23. Let’s touch on a few more prophetic areas -

    “But who may abide the day of HIS COMING? And who shall stand when He appears? For He is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap: And He shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and He shall purify the SONS OF LEVI, and purge them as gold and silver, THAT THEY may offer unto Yahuah an >offering< in righteousness. Then shall the >offering< of Yahudah and Yerushalayim be pleasant unto Yahuah, AS IN the DAYS OF OLD, and AS IN FORMER YEARS” Mal 3:2-4.

    “And Yahuah shall be King over all the earth: in THAT DAY shall there be One Yahuah, and His name One” Zec 14:9. No rain for obstinate nations who refuse to come for the feast of Sukkot. His voice WILL be heard and OBEYED this time. Total worldwide Theocracy. It’s time to either do it or get smited now -

    “And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of ALL the families of the earth unto Yerushalayim to worship the King, Yahuah Tseva’oth, even upon them shall be no rain.
    And if the family of Mitsrayim go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith Yahuah will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the Feast of Sukkot” Zec 14:17, 18 (Rebellion). Still in THAT DAY:

    “In THAT DAY shall there be upon the bells of the horses, Qodesh L’Yahuah; and the pots in Yahuah’s HOUSE shall be like the bowls before the altar. Yea, every pot in Yerushalayim and in Yahudah shall be holiness unto Yahuah Tseva’oth: and all they that >sacrifice< shall come and take of them, and seethe therein” Zec 14:20-21.

    “Also the sons of the STRANGER, THAT JOIN themselves to Yahuah, to serve Him, and to love the name of Yahuah, to be His servants, everyone that guards the SHABBAT from polluting it, and takes hold of my COVENANT, Even them I WILL BRING to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in MY HOUSE of prayer: their >ascending smoke offerings< and their >sacrifices< shall be accepted upon My altar; for MY HOUSE shall be called a HOUSE of prayer for ALL people” Isa 56:6-7.

    “In THOSE DAYS, and at THAT TIME, will I cause THE BRANCH of Righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yahudah be saved, and Yerushalayim shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, Yahuah Tsidqenu. For thus says Yahuah; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the HOUSE of Yashar’el; Neither shall THE PRIESTS the Leviyiym want a man before me to >offer ascending smoke offerings<, and to >kindle oblations, and to do sacrifice continually<” Jer 33:15-18.

    So, those snips are up for consideration. Kinda hard to ignore them or spiritualize them away. But like I said, doesn’t matter who agrees or disagrees. They sure agree with Messiah’s words, however. All that “EVERY WORD” stuff (Matt 4:4)... all the “FOREVER” stuff (1Pe 1:25). We know obedience is certainly preferred over sacrifice (Jer 7:22-24, 1Sam 15:22), but He’s gonna be crackin’ a rod of iron this time (Rev 19:15). He’s definitely gonna have His HOUSE rules -

    “And IT SHALL come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of Yahuah’s HOUSE SHALL BE ESTABLISHED in the top of the mountains, and shall be EXALTED above the hills; and ALL NATIONS shall flow UNTO IT. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of Yahuah, to the HOUSE of the Elohai of Ya`aqov; and He will teach us of HIS WAYS, and we will walk in HIS PATHS: for out of Tsiyon shall go forth THE TORAH, and THE WORD of Yahuah from Yerushalayim” Isa 2:2-4.

    I’ll not question Him. I just wanna learn and be ready. Meantime, as we await - “Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, a set-apart priesthood, to offer up spiritual >sacrifices<, acceptable to Elohiym by Yahusha Ha’Mashiach” 1Pe 2:5.

    And that too, is not a new thing - “Let my PRAYER be set forth before you as incense; and the LIFTING UP of my hands as the >evening sacrifice<” Psa 141:2.

    Hodu l’YHUH!

    Shabbat Shalom!
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    An interesting case indeed! I wish all "real teachers" would "study" as you are! Thanks!

    "Tradition" has it that today is the Feast of Trumpets, the first day of the seventh month. May He educate us all, as He has promised!

    Shabat Shalom!

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    The first century A.D. and some what before that Herod's temple was run by anti-Christ Edom; And between 65 AD through 70 A/D. The Apostle Paul's inspired Roman Army destroyed Herod's temple and all the priests thereof.

    In Hebrews 10:8,9 Sacrifices & burnt offerings... "Thou would not, neither had pleasure which are offered by law." Christ: "I come to do Thy Will... He takes away the first to establish the second."
    verse 11, "Every Priest...offering... sacrifices which can never take away sins."

    But this Man after He offered One Sacrifice for sins... verse 14 "by one offering He Perfected for ever them that are sanctified."

    verse 18 "where remission for sin.. no more offering for sin."

    There is no more, any animal sacrifice valid for sin.

    In Revelation 21, there is no mention of sacrifice or temple, save that The Lord Almighty, the
    Lamb" {Christ} is the temple & Light...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan88 View Post

    There is no more, any animal sacrifice valid for sin.
    It never was "valid" for sin. You miss the point entirely. Nothing can compare to Messiah's blood. We all know that. YET, do you want to discuss the passages I posted? Perhaps discuss the WHY we see the passages and their intended purposes? Is it just a one-way street for sacrifices to point forward to His ultimate Sacrifice, or could they point back as well?

    Just suppose there is a huge, very popular people group who, for some 1900 years, never took sin seriously. Suppose they went so far as to say even the laws that defined sin were no more. Suppose they trample His Sabbaths, eat swine on a daily basis. What if they enjoin pagan festivals in place of His set apart appointments. What if there were a people group right now who claim Him, yet have no part with the terms of the new covenant (Jer 31:33)? What of those who have inherited lies (Jer 16:19) that He still wants for them to come to His covenant?

    “For if we sin purposely after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a slaughter offering for sins, but some fearsome anticipation of judgment, and a fierce fire which is about to consume the opponents. Anyone who has disregarded the Torah of Mosheh dies without compassion on the witness of two or three witnesses. HOW MUCH WORSE punishment do you think shall he deserve who has trampled the Son of Elohim underfoot, counted the BLOOD OF THE COVENANT by which he was set apart AS COMMON, and INSULTED the Spirit of favour?” Heb 10:26-29.


    What if there were also a large people group who reject Messiah entirely, but claim the largest majority of His Word as being true?
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    the OT sacrifices rolled forward the sins of the nation until Messahia comes and cancels the debt. He did 2k years ago.. Yom Kippur, in 8 days, was when the high priest went into the holy of holies to offer the blood on the mercy seat of the ark. there has been no sacrifices in over 2k years. its one reason the the jews (and yes, they called themselves that since Babylon) are so hungry for a new temple. interesting times, eh? prep and pray, the end has arrived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Off-Grid Organics View Post
    It never was "valid" for sin. You miss the point entirely. Nothing can compare to Messiah's blood. We all know that. YET, do you want to discuss the passages I posted? Perhaps discuss the WHY we see the passages and their intended purposes? Is it just a one-way street for sacrifices to point forward to His ultimate Sacrifice, or could they point back as well?

    Just suppose there is a huge, very popular people group who, for some 1900 years, never took sin seriously. Suppose they went so far as to say even the laws that defined sin were no more. Suppose they trample His Sabbaths, eat swine on a daily basis. What if they enjoin pagan festivals in place of His set apart appointments. What if there were a people group right now who claim Him, yet have no part with the terms of the new covenant (Jer 31:33)? What of those who have inherited lies (Jer 16:19) that He still wants for them to come to His covenant?

    “For if we sin purposely after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a slaughter offering for sins, but some fearsome anticipation of judgment, and a fierce fire which is about to consume the opponents. Anyone who has disregarded the Torah of Mosheh dies without compassion on the witness of two or three witnesses. HOW MUCH WORSE punishment do you think shall he deserve who has trampled the Son of Elohim underfoot, counted the BLOOD OF THE COVENANT by which he was set apart AS COMMON, and INSULTED the Spirit of favour?” Heb 10:26-29.


    What if there were also a large people group who reject Messiah entirely, but claim the largest majority of His Word as being true?
    Of course you're speaking of 'modern day' christians! Very interesting questions you raise, Brother! I have never come across this line of thought, but is VERY possible!

    Sacrifices originally pointing into the future of the perfect Lamb of God...sacrifices restored pointing BACK to the same perfect sacrifice. Very possible. God knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmatic View Post
    sacrifices restored pointing BACK to the same perfect sacrifice.
    Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and guard my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me

    Jer 11:4 Which I commanded your fathers in the day that I brought them forth out of the land of Mitsrayim, from the iron furnace, saying, Obey my voice, and do them, according to all which I command you: so shall ye be my people, and I will be your Elohiym

    Jer 11:7 For I earnestly protested unto your fathers in the day that I brought them up out of the land of Mitsrayim, even unto this day, rising early and protesting, saying, Obey my voice.
    Jer 11:8 Yet they obeyed not, nor inclined their ear, but walked everyone in the imagination of their evil heart


    Jer 7:22 For I spoke not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Mitsrayim, concerning ascending smoke offerings or sacrifices:
    Jer 7:23 But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your Elohiym, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.
    Jer 7:24 But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward.
    "The one who says he stays in Him is indebted to walk, even as He walked." 1Jn 2:6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Off-Grid Organics View Post
    “Thus says Adonai Yahuah; No stranger, uncircumcised in heart, nor uncircumcised in flesh, shall enter into my sanctuary...
    Damn!!! How would you like to be the guy at the door enforcing this rule!? LOL!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrin View Post
    Damn!!! How would you like to be the guy at the door enforcing this rule!? LOL!!!
    Yep, everything will be laid bare. Hopefully we won't be ashamed in nakedness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmatic View Post
    Yep, everything will be laid bare. Hopefully we won't be ashamed in nakedness.
    I'm certainly not. I just wouldn't want the job of "pecker inspector ".
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